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Old 15th January 2015, 08:36   #61
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So as I understand the 135/80/17 should fit the X1, and you need to purchase wheels/alloys separately along with the jacking kit etc. I will check with the Bavaria Guys here.

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Thanks for your reply on the other thread. Your thread seems quite apt to check for a lot of very essential Bimmer items-Great. Is the Donut Tyre that you procured sufficient? As my X1 is shod with 225/50/17s, which I guess should be yours too. Did you get this from Prestige BMW and can you post some pics please.
I too bought the space saver from Navnit motors last year for around 17K. Did not go for the jack set. Bought a 2 tonne hydraulic bottle jack from ebay instead and spanner from local shop. The tire is 135 section on alloy rim. Got a rexine cover stitched from a local guy. The pics are in an earlier thread
http://www.team-bhp.com/forum/tyre-a...ml#post3327457 (Space Saver Spare Tyre for the BMW X1)

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I too have bought a 2 ton jack from the Snapdeal ( they delivered it without the handles. LOL (Another story)) . Would be sourcing the tools from the market soon. I shall get a space saver as it seems that, it is a must. Would any of you know from where I can get the Xenon lamps, mine is with the halogens.
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I too bought the space saver from Navnit motors last year for around 17K. Did not go for the jack set. Bought a 2 tonne hydraulic bottle jack from ebay instead and spanner from local shop. The tire is 135 section on alloy rim. Got a rexine cover stitched from a local guy. The pics are in an earlier thread
http://www.team-bhp.com/forum/tyre-a...ml#post3327457 (Space Saver Spare Tyre for the BMW X1)
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I too have bought a 2 ton jack from the Snapdeal ( they delivered it without the handles. LOL (Another story)) . Would be sourcing the tools from the market soon. I shall get a space saver as it seems that, it is a must. Would any of you know from where I can get the Xenon lamps, mine is with the halogens.
I bought the Space Saver, which comes with an alloy wheel, a jacking kit which is uber cool, a ratchet spanner which fits the lug nuts of the wheel, without touching the alloy surface and the cover. the reason i went in for the full kit is because bottle jacks need some effort whereas the BMW jack is easy to use

I doubt if retrofitting xenons is possible as the entire headlight assembly needs to be changed to Projectors, and also the wiring has to be changed (including support for HID Ballasts)
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I have seen some replacement Xenons with the entire assembly on the net. I will try to see whether it is suitable. The present lights are pretty fine, so may even not change them if the process is rather complicated.
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Can you please share your experience of the maintenance costs (and costs of common spares, if you had the misfortune to buy those) of the X1? It will be a great help in shaping purchase decisions.
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Can you please share your experience of the maintenance costs (and costs of common spares, if you had the misfortune to buy those) of the X1? It will be a great help in shaping purchase decisions.
The regular 1st and 2nd service will cost around Rs 24000. This includes 6 lit of synthetic oil, air filer, ac filter and labour and foam wash. The filters cost around 4000 Rs each and Oil is 8000. I've not had any issue where I had to replace any other part as part of regular running. The service interval is an unusually long 18 months or 15000km. The vehicle has been immensely reliable, not even a niggle, touch wood. ts now 2 years and 3 months old, run 22000km. I got the 2nd service done earlier as I was not comfortable with such a long drain interval.

But had the misfortune of a cracked windshield due to some impact, maybe a stone while it was parked (Rs 74000) and a cracked foglamp due to flying stone (Rs 18000).

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Can you please share your experience of the maintenance costs (and costs of common spares, if you had the misfortune to buy those) of the X1? It will be a great help in shaping purchase decisions.
I have the BMW Service Inclusive Ultimate package which takes care of all Maintenance for 60,000 KMS. I am told i will not be charged for oil, filters, labour etc. Washing will be chargeable, however i have instructed them not to wash as i use Specialised BMW Shampoo and wash kit. I strongly recommend the BSI package as it covers everything!

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The regular 1st and 2nd service will cost around Rs 24000. This includes 6 lit of synthetic oil, air filer, ac filter and labour and foam wash. The filters cost around 4000 Rs each and Oil is 8000. I've not had any issue where I had to replace any other part as part of regular running. The service interval is an unusually long 18 months or 15000km. The vehicle has been immensely reliable, not even a niggle, touch wood. ts now 2 years and 3 months old, run 22000km. I got the 2nd service done earlier as I was not comfortable with such a long drain interval.

But had the misfortune of a cracked windshield due to some impact, maybe a stone while it was parked (Rs 74000) and a cracked foglamp due to flying stone (Rs 18000).

I presume u hadn't taken the BSI Package. As stated by Dinu, the service is Condition based. the onboard Computer decides and intimates what is required to be changed, whether the oil needs to be changed, whether the Brake Pads need replacement etc.
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I presume u hadn't taken the BSI Package. As stated by Dinu, the service is Condition based. the onboard Computer decides and intimates what is required to be changed, whether the oil needs to be changed, whether the Brake Pads need replacement etc.
You are right, I have not taken the BSI package as the car is maintained by Leaseplan and I will be letting it go after the lease period. Yes its a condition based service as it indicates everything from oil change, brake pads, coolant, brake fluid, emission etc etc

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As stated by Dinu, the service is Condition based. the onboard Computer decides and intimates what is required to be changed, whether the oil needs to be changed, whether the Brake Pads need replacement etc.
I presume that the condition based service schedule staggers the maintenance over several smaller iterations instead of hitting the customers with a one-time large bill. But the total cost for say every 15,000 Km must be (sort of) standard. I would love inputs on what that may be, as a ballpark figure. And what are the ballpark figures for the BSI packages?

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I presume that the condition based service schedule staggers the maintenance over several smaller iterations instead of hitting the customers with a one-time large bill. But the total cost for say every 15,000 Km must be (sort of) standard. I would love inputs on what that may be, as a ballpark figure. And what are the ballpark figures for the BSI packages?

Here is a brief of the Condition Based Service

Benefits of CBS
The concept of CBS was to create a flexible yet economical maintenance schedule for serviceable items fitted to a vehicle. Unlike its predecessor (SIA) which used fixed time and distance service schedules (days and m/km’s)the innovative CBS system goes one step further. This intelligent system constantly gathers information from modules and sensors fitted around the vehicle which allows flexible intervals to be created preventing unnecessary replacement of components which still have substantial service life left. In essence there is an aim to lengthen service intervals and maximise the use of serviceable components.

Components supported by CBS
The type of CBS components supported on a particular model will vary depending on specification and enginetype. Items fall into 2 main groups:

1) Sensor based items
These items are monitored by physical and virtual sensors with some reference being made to variables such as vehicle mileage, driving styles and temperature. Items included in this group are:
-Engine oil – Monitored by the DME/DDE engine control module
-Micro filter/Pollen filter – Monitored by the IHKA climate control module
-Front brake pads – Monitored by the DSC stability control module
-Rear brake pads – Monitored by the DSC stability control module
-Diesel Particulate filter - Monitored by the DME/DDE engine control module

2) Internally calculated items
Certain items monitored by the CBS system do not require physical sensors. These serviceable items still operate under fixed intervals with remaining service life calculated by the instrument cluster based on time and distance. Items included in this group are:
-Brake fluid
-Spark plugs
-User interface
-Instrument cluster

The instrument cluster gives advanced notification ofany pending service requirements via informationdisplayed on the LCD. This is displayed in the form on a ‘SERVICE’ warning followed by information relevant to the component requiring maintenance. BMW aim to give approximately four weeks advanced notificationof any maintenance requirements to prevent driversaccidently ‘running over’ service schedules.

i-Drive
Further information can be accessed via the i-Drive system. By navigating through the i-Drive menu into the ‘Service Menu’, it is possible to check the current state and remaining serviceable life of all CBS monitored components. Each item will be highlighted in either Green, Yellow or Red and display a percentage value indicating remaining serviceable life.
Green item = No service required at present
-Yellow item = Service life nearing its end
-Red item = Service deadline has been passed.

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The following to be checked when the following symbols are illuminated.


Engine oil Symbol

CBS models: What's checked or changed when this symbol appears?

* The engine oil and oil filter are changed because keeping the oil at the right level and clean is vital to the protection and longevity of the life of movable engine parts. Also, if you do a lot of short journeys, your oil filter will be more susceptible to blockages caused by the condensation of water in the oil.
* The handbrake is checked - unlike the foot brakes, the handbrake is a mechanical function and therefore has to be checked for any necessary adjustment as standard.
* With every 3rd oil change:
- Intake silencer: replace air filter element - this can reduce your fuel consumption by up to 10% as the engine can breathe more easily.
- Fuel filter: replace main fuel filter (only if diesel) - this will ensure a higher purification level of your fuel.

Micro-filters

CBS models: What's checked or changed when this symbol appears?

* Heating, air conditioning or automatic air conditioning: replace micro filter/carbon canister - this is important because micro filters trap 80% of the pollen and traffic fumes before it gets into the cabin, helps keep drivers and passengers alert and helps demist windows quickly even on a rainy winter's day.
* Reset indicator.

Front brakes

CBS models: What's checked or changed when this symbol appears?

* Brake pads are changed, and the brake caliper cavities are cleaned. Failure to get your brake pads replaced will result in a reduction in braking performance, and if the callipers are cleaned, any squeaking in the brakes should be diminished.
* Brake discs:
o Surface and thickness - the importance of having a safe level of thickness in your brake discs is paramount to your driving safety; if necessary, the brake discs will be replaced.
* Reset indicator.

Rear brakes

CBS models: What's checked or changed when this symbol appears?

* Brake pads are changed, and the brake caliper cavities are cleaned. Failure to get your brake pads matched correctly will result in a brake imbalance front to rear on your vehicle, and if the callipers are cleaned, any squeaking in the brakes should be diminished.
* Brake discs:- Surface and thickness - the importance of having a safe level of thickness in your brake discs is paramount to your driving safety; if necessary, the brake discs will be replaced.
* Handbrake:
- Condition, brake lining thickness and function - unlike the foot brakes, the handbrake is a mechanical function and therefore has to be checked for any necessary adjustment. As the handbrake is connected to the rear brake shoes, over time these shoes wear and therefore these will also require inspection to ensure a serviceable condition. (The brake shoes when applied by the handbrake clamps the drums of the rear brake disc, therefore securing the rear wheels in a locked position, the mating surfaces have to be in good order).
- If necessary, the handbrake or any of its other components will be replaced.
* Reset indicator.

Brake fluid

CBS models: What's checked or changed when this symbol appears?

* Brake fluid is changed. The problem with brake fluid is that it absorbs moisture from the air quickly. This is important because the amount of moisture in your brake fluid affects your vehicle's performance. As water content in brake fluid increases over time, the boiling point decreases. Fluid with a reduced boiling point (or high water content) can create vapour by boiling in the caliper, or wheel cylinder. Potentially, this could reduce braking performance significantly, and can also contribute to corrosion of parts, such as steel pistons and ABS modulators.
* Reset indicator.

Diesel filter

CBS models: What's checked or changed when this symbol appears? (Only on diesel models)

* Diesel filter is changed. This filter is important to the general efficiency of diesel engines. As the fuel passes through this filter, unwanted particles and residue will become trapped, so that the fuel is passing to the engine is 'clean'. Therefore, this filter has to be replaced when indicated to ensure that your engine is running at optimum performance.
* Reset indicator.

MOT

CBS models:

* Statutory inspection for vehicles 3 years and older.
* Annual check comprising of over 150 safety related items and exhaust emission system test.
* Checked items, for example include lights, steering, brakes, suspension and fuel system.
* Government regulated inspection.

Spark plugs

CBS models: What's checked or changed when this symbol appears? (Only on petrol models)

* Spark plugs are replaced. When it comes to fuel efficiently, spark plugs are one of the most critical parts of a petrol car's engine. Defective spark plugs can result in worsening emissions and increased fuel consumption, and can even result in misfires if not replaced. Replacing these worn spark plugs will improve the performance of the engine.
* Reset indicator.

Vehicle check

CBS models: What's checked or changed when this symbol appears?

* Diagnosis test.
* Horn, headlight flasher and hazard warning lights.
* Instrument and indication field lighting, check heater blower.
* Windscreen wash/wipe system.
* Body: checked for corrosion.
* Tyres: tread depths, tread pattern and external condition, check inflation pressures and correct if necessary (spare wheel checked also).
* Battery: display checked, and if necessary, replaced. - If your car is a few years old it is worth getting your battery checked prior to the onset of cold and damp weather, as these conditions can contribute to deterioration in the battery.
* Steering fluid reservoir: fluid level checked.
* Coolant level and refill if necessary: if there's too little water and anti-freeze in the cooling system, then the engine can overheat and cause potentially serious damage.
* Windscreen washer system: check fluid level, top up if necessary.
* Brake lines and connections: checked for leaks, damage, and correct position.
* Under-body including all visible parts: checked for damage, leaks and corrosion.
* Steering components: checked for clearance, leaks, damage and wear.
* Check for roadworthiness
- Brakes
- Steering
- Shock absorbers; and
- Clutch / automatic transmission

ADDITIONALLY: A Standard Scope inspection is carried out on your BMW when it is brought in for a service. This inspection includes:

* Check of control messages.
* Check of telltale and warning lights flagged in the LCD display.

With the BSI package everything except wash and accidental damage is covered. I wouldn't be able to tell you a ballpark figure since i have a BSI package and yet to go in for the first service.

The ballpark figures for BSI also vary. there are i presume 3 BSI packages - BSI basic, BSI Premium and BSI Ultimate. for a 5 year/ 60K kms BSI the present pricing is about 3 lakhs i guess. however good negotiation skills and year end discounts can get you BSI at a discount or even free.

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Another cool thing which the newer iDrives have is service history. It shows you what was done to the car, and when it was done. Very neat, and no need to look for bills for dates, etc.
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I am not happy with the ride that my X1 offers. She presently is shod with Good Year eagle NCT5, RFT's. Would converting to non Runflats improve the ride?. Non RFTs such as Michelins are available for around 14K per piece. Pirellis/ Hankook/ Yokohama/Continental around 10-11.5 K. Is it worth shelling out 50K.

I have read a number of comments, that indicate changing to RFT offers a better ride. What are your personal experiences.

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This thread seems to have become the defacto X1 maintenance thread
Mine is just about to hit the 2.5 year mark and the brake pads/engine oil are due for replacement
Two questions for the folks here

a) The price difference if I order the pads online is significant, well, actually this holds true for most parts - If i were to change the pads myself, would it impact the warranty - I still have another 1.5 yrs of extended warranty left

b) Are there any reliable 3rd party workshops for BMW in Pune or Mumbai
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I am not happy with the ride that my X1 offers. She presently is shod with Good Year eagle NCT5, RFT's. Would converting to non Runflats improve the ride?. Non RFTs such as Michelins are available for around 14K per piece. Pirellis/ Hankook/ Yokohama/Continental around 10-11.5 K. Is it worth shelling out 50K.

I have read a number of comments, that indicate changing to RFT offers a better ride. What are your personal experiences.

Please Check the Tyre pressure of the RFT's. I am on RFT's Contisport Contact and used to find the ride quality Harsh. did a quick pressure check at my friends Tyre Clinic and the Pressure was 37. My friend suggested that i keep the Pressure at 31-32 and the ride quality has improved quite a lot

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This thread seems to have become the defacto X1 maintenance thread
Mine is just about to hit the 2.5 year mark and the brake pads/engine oil are due for replacement
Two questions for the folks here

a) The price difference if I order the pads online is significant, well, actually this holds true for most parts - If i were to change the pads myself, would it impact the warranty - I still have another 1.5 yrs of extended warranty left

b) Are there any reliable 3rd party workshops for BMW in Pune or Mumbai
while having extended warranty, always stick to the dealership; unless you want to void it, since the service records get updated in the key fob
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