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Old 23rd November 2016, 16:20   #76
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Completed a Bangalore - Chennai - Bangalore trip on my Stile a few weeks back. It was beautiful to drive this stretch as the roads are fantastic and in good condition. Plus it is pretty well barricaded in most of the places so it the drive is more enjoyable (Trip distance: 900 km). It was a bliss to drive the 1.6 on highways. Also did a B'lore - Mysore trip the following weekend (About 350 km). The car returned a pretty decent fuel economy of 15kmpl on both the occasions.

Luckily no issues of overheating with the car in both the trips. Once back from Mysore, I checked the radiator overflow tank. Coolant mix had reduced slightly, by about 150 - 200ml. Is losing some coolant a regular thing for a 1200 km trip? Anyways, topped it up and looked for any signs of leakage but couldn't find any. I now suspect the radiator cap as some of the coolant mix could be evaporating due to poor sealing of the cap.

However, one thing I did notice is how the temperature gauge behaves. It stays low all the time on the highway (way below the half-level mark) but suddenly rises to almost 3/4th mark if you drive for about 15 mins in traffic when you hit cities. Even in city driving, it hits the 3/4th mark during bumper to bumper traffic. The fan kicks in, and it comes down to half way mark (which is relieving). Can someone tell me when exactly the fan is supposed to kick in? As far as my observation goes, usually it would kick in just when the gauge crosses the half-way mark. But sometimes it doesn't kick in till the gauge hits the 3/4th mark. What could be the problem? Is the low-speed fan not kicking in sometimes and only the high-speed fan is working? On a slightly positive note, could it just be a faltering gauge?

The car never overheated or anything but I'm still bothered by it. Not able to pinpoint the heating 'issue' or not sure if the issue is only in my head.

I've also read that such behavior could be because of clogged radiators. Should I get a radiator flush done in that case? Anyways, this time around I would like to visit a showroom and get these things checked though it would mean me spending a little extra $$$. Any insights or suggestions are welcome, regarding this. Thanks folks for hearing me out

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Old 14th December 2016, 18:24   #78
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However, one thing I did notice is how the temperature gauge behaves. It stays low all the time on the highway (way below the half-level mark) but suddenly rises to almost 3/4th mark if you drive for about 15 mins in traffic when you hit cities. Even in city driving, it hits the 3/4th mark during bumper to bumper traffic. The fan kicks in, and it comes down to half way mark (which is relieving). Can someone tell me when exactly the fan is supposed to kick in? As far as my observation goes, usually it would kick in just when the gauge crosses the half-way mark. But sometimes it doesn't kick in till the gauge hits the 3/4th mark. What could be the problem? Is the low-speed fan not kicking in sometimes and only the high-speed fan is working? On a slightly positive note, could it just be a faltering gauge?

The car never overheated or anything but I'm still bothered by it. Not able to pinpoint the heating 'issue' or not sure if the issue is only in my head.
The 3/4th mark will be considered as overheating. Though I do not have a Stile, I do own its predecessor GTX.
Normal behavior: With AC on, the temp gauge will stay at 1/4th mark all the time, because the fan operates at high speed.
With the AC off, the temp gauge will rise to 1/2, at which point the fan speed will switch to high speed and bring it down to 1/3rd mark.

In any case, I feel (IMHO) it should not reach 3/4 before the fan switching to high speed mode. 3/4th mark is a little too high.
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The 3/4th mark will be considered as overheating. Though I do not have a Stile, I do own its predecessor GTX.
Normal behavior: With AC on, the temp gauge will stay at 1/4th mark all the time, because the fan operates at high speed.
With the AC off, the temp gauge will rise to 1/2, at which point the fan speed will switch to high speed and bring it down to 1/3rd mark.

In any case, I feel (IMHO) it should not reach 3/4 before the fan switching to high speed mode. 3/4th mark is a little too high.
Thanks Vinit. Same is the case with my brother's GTX. It never reaches such high temperatures. I rarely drive the car with the AC on (Car AC makes me feel sick). Will keep your observations as a benchmark and drive the car around a bit. See what happens and how the gauge behaves. By the way your opinion on the gauge? Could the gauge be faulty?
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However, one thing I did notice is how the temperature gauge behaves. It stays low all the time on the highway (way below the half-level mark) but suddenly rises to almost 3/4th mark if you drive for about 15 mins in traffic when you hit cities. Even in city driving, it hits the 3/4th mark during bumper to bumper traffic. The fan kicks in, and it comes down to half way mark (which is relieving). Can someone tell me when exactly the fan is supposed to kick in? As far as my observation goes, usually it would kick in just when the gauge crosses the half-way mark. But sometimes it doesn't kick in till the gauge hits the 3/4th mark. What could be the problem? Is the low-speed fan not kicking in sometimes and only the high-speed fan is working? On a slightly positive note, could it just be a faltering gauge?

The car never overheated or anything but I'm still bothered by it. Not able to pinpoint the heating 'issue' or not sure if the issue is only in my head.

I've also read that such behavior could be because of clogged radiators. Should I get a radiator flush done in that case? Anyways, this time around I would like to visit a showroom and get these things checked though it would mean me spending a little extra $$$. Any insights or suggestions are welcome, regarding this. Thanks folks for hearing me out
Your fan resistor has gone bad. Because of the resistor going bad, the low speed isn't working. The high speed will kick in at 66-75% or when AC is on.

You need to get the part labelled "fan resistor" , check the part number and ordeer it from the showroom or 99rpm.

http://www.99rpm.com/fiat/radiator-fan-1-6-palio.html

Get the water pump and the area behind it checked for leaks. Even I had minor leaks which werent at all visible. It was an O-ring behind the waterpump leaking. Part cost was 46rs.
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Your fan resistor has gone bad. Because of the resistor going bad, the low speed isn't working. The high speed will kick in at 66-75% or when AC is on.

You need to get the part labelled "fan resistor" , check the part number and ordeer it from the showroom or 99rpm.

http://www.99rpm.com/fiat/radiator-fan-1-6-palio.html

Get the water pump and the area behind it checked for leaks. Even I had minor leaks which werent at all visible. It was an O-ring behind the waterpump leaking. Part cost was 46rs.
Thanks SunnyBoi. Comparing the symptoms of the problem and to what you have pointed out (faulty fan resistor) as the source for these symptoms, it looks like a direct correlation. Will definitely get the fan resistor checked and replaced if necessary along with a thorough check for any minor leaks. To be on the safer side, I will get a radiator flush done too. Will keep you guys updated once I manage to get this done.
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Thanks SunnyBoi. Comparing the symptoms of the problem and to what you have pointed out (faulty fan resistor) as the source for these symptoms, it looks like a direct correlation. Will definitely get the fan resistor checked and replaced if necessary along with a thorough check for any minor leaks. To be on the safer side, I will get a radiator flush done too. Will keep you guys updated once I manage to get this done.
When I had similar problem with respect to the temperature gauge needle showing high, I had got the radiator cleaned. Lot of dust had accumulated and hence the issue is what the mechanic had told. I would suggesr to get the radiator cleaned first and check if it solves the issue else get the fan resistor changed.
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Thanks SunnyBoi. Comparing the symptoms of the problem and to what you have pointed out (faulty fan resistor) as the source for these symptoms, it looks like a direct correlation. Will definitely get the fan resistor checked and replaced if necessary along with a thorough check for any minor leaks. To be on the safer side, I will get a radiator flush done too. Will keep you guys updated once I manage to get this done.
If you want to do it properly, get hold of someone with a scanner that works on fiats. There is a menu within the software to check for relays and working of fans.

Here's me testing my car's high speed fan and check if its working as expected. If it doesn't, you'll know immediately there is a problem with the resistor or fan relay. No need of waiting for the car to warm up or misdiagnosing. You can see there is an option to check the low speed (fan 1st speed) as well.

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Regarding the leak arund the waterpump, its not visible unless you put the car on the ramp. Here's how the leak on my car looked

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Folks,

Need some help and guidance. I had plans to upgrade my brakes (complete set - discs, rotors, caliper etc) but had put it on the back burner. Now that I have some time (read moolah! ) I want to upgrade them now as the OEM brakes are nothing to talk about. I was planning to go for brembo but not sure where to source them. Any suggestions if brembo does have something for palio stile or should I look at other brands? Also what would be the approx cost for the entire set up?
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I had updated on a different thread regarding the puncture fix done at tyre professionals (Tyre Professionals (Bangalore)). I had got it fixed on the last week of november but was noticing that every week there was drop in air pressure. But again since I was not using car at all for past 2-3 weeks I thought it may be because of some other issue and neglected. Last week I took the car out and filled the air again and started using car regularly. Now I noticed that within 2 days air pressure had reduced again.

So this weekend I went back to them and they verified and confirmed that the tire is damaged and nothing can be done. Even fixing again will not help. They suggested me to change the tire itself. (Tires are itself fairly new. Have run just 10000km since changed) Somehow I kept my cool and asked them to put in a tube. They again came back with a used tube and when asked said they will check before putting it in. Found that it already had a hole in it so they had to get a different one. This time I went with them inside and made sure that they got a new packaged one. After verifying that this one is good got it installed. Have been using it since 2 days now and luckily it is holding well. But I am still skeptical about having a tube especially with still a small wedge of the old mushroom puncture strip protruding inside the tyre. I hope that the tube holds well as I have a long ride coming over this weekend.

Unfortunately this incident has definitely left a sore taste for me. I am really skeptical for going to them again. They also do not acknowledge their mistake at all. I had asked my friend who was looking out for a good place to change his vehicle's tires to check out a different place rather than coming here.
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