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Old 24th August 2015, 18:35   #16
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Congratulations thedragula on Linea

Driver Seat Positioning: There is a simple trick which I found out by trial and error method. First using the height adjustment lever, take the seat to its lowest position and then adjust the seat for leg distance (front and back).. Once, you have found the right position for your legs reach, stretch the seat backwards by an inch. Now slowly take the seat higher till you find comfortable position..(The leg distance reduces with every move upwards)
Thanks Vinit, I tried this...but unfortunately, this trick didn't do it for me. I keep feeling the need to adjust the seat height and travel constantly.

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Are the new models still coming with Good Year's as well? I just changed mine to new shoes from Pirelli. Will be putting up a post on that shortly.
Thanks Puchoo, I have been following your ownership thread closely. In fact, your close up pic of the shiny turbine alloy was my phone wallpaper for the longest time.

The new cars come with either Goodyear, Acceleres and Alnac 4Gs. I have seen all of them on different cars over time.

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You mean the car was driven 200+ kms for the delivery, was it the only vehicle to be delivered? I always thought that Fiat transports the cars in those heavy vehicles.
How was your PDI experience at Torrid motors? One of my friend is expected to do a PDI in the coming days and would like to know the nitty gritties of Torrid functioning. Also can you share the PDI document used by you? Thanks in advance.
No. As indicated in my post, I chose for the car to be driven down because getting the car transported by trailer involved some guess work on timing which no one had control over and I needed delivery quick.

PDI at Torrid is quite ok. It was the buying process that I had some anxious moments with. Has your friend paid the full amount? I doubt your friend would have got to do PDI with just booking amount. They have to order the car against full payment.

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Congrat's on the new purchase.

I had the exact same problem on my 16 month old T-Jet about 6 month ago. The driver’s door would look like it had come out in an ugly white rash when it rained heavily. Took some pic’s of the offending door and sent it off to KHT Fiat who promptly fixed it under warranty on advice from the factory. I have been very impressed with KHT service so far.

Remap: Well like you I thought I would wait for about a year before I took the plunge, but after I drove my car with a remapped ECU that Rajiv (Wolf-Moto) brought across for me to try, there was no going back to stock. I guess my car was one of the first to get the remapped ECU.

1. Throttle response when feathering the throttle for city driving is clearly better. I am talking about response before the turbo spools up, i.e. Low end torque is better
2. The midrange response was always good, but with the remap it does pulls a bit better towards the top, and the biggest gain is it pulls cleanly to about 5000 RPM against the stock’s 4500 RPM before power starts dropping off.
3. Mileage: I am getting between 10-11 kmpl in city driving with say 50% AC. I normally fill shell regular since I have a pump right down my road. I am getting this mileage by mostly keeping it below the turbo zone with occasional bursts when you have some idiot in front of you or you find an empty stretch, which is almost never in Bangalore. I have managed to get 14-15 kmpl on runs to the airport with the cruise on most of the way at the regulated 80km speed limit (about a 100 km round trip).
Thank you! I wish you were in Mumbai. I would have test driven your car to make up my mind. I guess Ill get in touch with you next time am in Bangalore. PM your number pls. I have lot more questions on the Remap bit

Btw, my recent tankful shows 11.2 driving sedately in and around the turbo zone.
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Btw, my recent tankful shows 11.2 driving sedately in and around the turbo zone.
If you are getting a mileage of 11.2 in Mumbai for a petrol car like T Jet, then its a real good number. Is this number with AC or without ?
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Sure, you're most welcome. Don't think I can PM you as yet. Mod's please help if possible.
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Simply because there were no other cars considered. It was Linea T-Jet all the way… a foregone conclusion or a ‘Fiat Accompli’ (pun intended). It ad to be a worthy upgrade from my other car (the Palio 1.6 GTX) and once that premise was defined, I realised that the problem gets compounded for there is hardly anything in the market that qualifies (
Enough said, thedragula! That was the car to buy and congrats. Wishing you many miles of happy motoring.

I am glad for Fiat to be still catering to the enthusiasts in this jacked-up times that we live in.

And how I wish some other brands bringing in budget performance sedans as well.
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If you are getting a mileage of 11.2 in Mumbai for a petrol car like T Jet, then its a real good number. Is this number with AC or without ?
It's with about 30-40 pc A/c. When am alone in the car (which is most of the times), I hardly use the A/c as I hate it. Just keep the fan on fresh-air circulation mode. When I do use the A/c I always keep it at a comfortable 24 or 25 degrees.

I have noticed that the car behaves better and gives better mileage (9.5 vs 11 (on Xtrapremium) when run on Xtra Premium. I am yet to try speed and power brands. Will update once I have enough data.

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Enough said, thedragula! That was the car to buy and congrats. Wishing you many miles of happy motoring.

I am glad for Fiat to be still catering to the enthusiasts in this jacked-up times that we live in.

And how I wish some other brands bringing in budget performance sedans as well.
Thanks Johy!

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2500km update.

The Engine has smoothened up significantly and the mileage has also gone up gradually. Have tried 4 different fuels so far with varying results. I've been using an app to maintain a data of fuelling and other statistics.

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Average Efficiency

Mileage appears to be better when on premium fuels like Speed and IOC XtraPremium. With Speed 97, the engine note drastically transforms and the engine becomes quieter and strains less when revved. Mileage wise it is not a significant improvement.

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These days I always keep the MID console to Average Efficiency and drive with a view to better the number. The more you drive, the harder it gets to beat the average. But that doesn't mean that I dont get to drive it the way its meant to be driven. In fact, the T-Jet has no problems with being driven hard. What it hates is crawling traffic and long idling.

In other reports, while waiting at a signal, some idiot on a bike (who was probably drunk or was on the phone) lost balance and crashed into the driver side door. I was furious but the signal changed and I couldnt do much. Not finding a suitable place to stop and examine the damage, I drove till home, and got off to inspect the damage.

My guardian angel may be a body work specialist and appears to have access to the New Pearl White paint, as there was no scratch or dent!! I couldn't believe it that I kept looking for signs of damage on the entire side of the car thinking he must have hit elsewhere. So far, haven't found any!
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2500km update.
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OT : App name please ?
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The app is Fuel Buddy. Quite handy, if you carefully maintain logs.
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10kmpl? that is nice In city driving i get 7-8 :(

So speed is recommended? the fiat guys were specific in mentioning to use only regular unleaded fuel
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Dragula - Hearty congrats and Wish you many many happy miles with your new Italian Beauty!
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Dragula, first of all many congratulations on acquiring a Jet. The car looks stunning in while. I too own a BNW T-Jet for over 4 years now and have driven 45K KMs. The car runs great. Not a single paisa spent so far other than routine maintenance/service. I see lot of posts around fuel type. I use Shell's V power and I derive a mileage of 15KMPL. Before eyebrows are raised let me clarify, 70% of my drive is on expressways. Regular petrol gives a KMPL lesser.
I am sure Linea will be an equally exciting companion as your other car.
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Audio Upgrade

Although the stock speakers on the linea are quite decent (read – equivalent to entry level speakers but not mid-range or audiophile quality), I quickly felt the need to upgrade to better speakers.

While in the Palio I had a Pioneer HU (mated to JBL Components and Co-axial) which had enough settings to control most aspects of the output, I realised that the integrated head unit is the main limiting factor here.

Removing it for something more functional would necessitate heavy modification as the existing HU is integrated into the design language of the dashboard. Plus, I would lose Blue & Me, which I am not prepared to do so.
Adding an Amplifier would require a Hi-Lo Converter and reams of wiring etc. For now, I just wanted better sound. Not necessarily loud.

I initially zeroed in on Polk Audio DB6501 Components for the front and a pair of co-axials in the rear (either the Polk 651s or Infinity Series). But once I spoke with Rahul from Rhyme n Rhythm, he advised me to consider the Focal Integration Series which are designed to be used with stock HUs.
I did a little bit of research and found pre-dominantly good reviews. So I decided to upgrade to Focal Integration ISS 165 (2-way components) for the front and the Focal Auditor R-165C co-axial speakers for the rear. The comps cost 8k and the co-axials about 3.5k. The install was done patiently and took about 3 hours.

The Linea comes with 6 inch components up front and 5 inch co-axials at the rear. Finding 5inch co-axials was tough, so decided to explore 6inch co-axials with minor modifications to the mounting and using spacers.

For the fronts, used a single Dynamat Extreme sheets around the speaker. Didn’t feel the need (or have the budget) to damp the entire door, as the Linea is well built and is no jap-tin can.

Some pics of the install
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Stock Speakers

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I had an inkling that that the tweeter would not fit within the brackets provided in the door. So 2 of the 3 retaining clasps has to be removed, and the tweeter stuck using feviquick and double sided tape.

Pic of Original location

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After modification

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Verdict

The speakers are definitely several notches above the stock system in terms of sound reproduction. With these speakers, I can distinctly hear the separation between various instruments. Mid Bass is reasonable, not too thumpy/loose and is reasonably tight.

The tweeters are significantly bright and will require toning down through the equaliser.

The clarity of the speakers, somehow, I felt was not as I imagined it would be. But then again, I am very mindful that this is a HU limitation more than anything else. It sounds like how the Pioneer would sound without the Sound Retriever and the SLAs turned on.

Plus, I also noticed that they need the volume to be cranked up more than the stock speakers required. For example, if 12-13 would be a sweet spot with the stock speakers, these will deliver the same volume at 15-16. It’s not a big issue or a significant shift and it is well below the half way mark of the HU which can be cranked upto 40 units.

Of course, anything more than 25 induces distortion.

I am quite satisfied with the speakers for now. Until the next itch.

PS: The stock speakers are Mopar branded speakers. Mopar (MOtor PARts) is the components and spare parts arm of FIAT Group. The speakers were made in China but so were the Focals. Anyone wants spare set of speakers for the Linea at a reasonable price, may contact me.
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Congrats on the audio upgrade. I went one step further and added an amp to compensate for the weak head unit. Better, but still not perfect.

Have you been able to tweak the individual frequencies on the equalizer option? The manual say's you can, but I can't on mine. I can only adjust the usual bass/treble/fader.
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Have you been able to tweak the individual frequencies on the equalizer option? The manual say's you can, but I can't on mine. I can only adjust the usual bass/treble/fader.
Thanks! Which amp have you added? And the speakers? Was wiring a hassle?

You can adjust the equaliser. Scroll to the User Setting in the equaliser menu...press the Menu button for a few second and you can adjust the 7 band equaliser.

Once the equaliser is enabled, the bass and treble options in the audio menu are turned off. i.e., its either the equaliser or the base/treble option in the Audio menu
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I got a great deal on Infinity Kappa's, so got 6.5" components for the front and coax for the rears. I got a Hertz HE-4 which has an auto on function so no cutting of wires, except I ran all the speaker wires from the HU to below the front passenger seat and back, and used an adapter at the HU. No splicing/tapping of wires anywhere. Like you, I used daynamat on all the doors, but covered the full door.

Many thanks for the info on the EQ.
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