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Old 14th December 2006, 13:02   #361
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Somas,

I was surprised when you said that Verna's suspension didn't soak up bad roads, potholes. But then I read further that, you were talking of rear-seat comfort and not driver's. I didn't not sit in the rear and was driving all the time during the test-drive. I felt, it soaked up road craters and potholes nicely. So, if one is going to drive the car most of the times, it shouldn't be a problem as such.

(Suspension felt softer than my taste, but most people will surely like it)
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Old 14th December 2006, 13:31   #362
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(Suspension felt softer than my taste, but most people will surely like it)
True. Even on the Team-BHP Panchgani drive, Rehaans Accent rode far superior to my Vtec over some terrible highway patches.

Hyundai sedans do ride pretty well.
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yes sir will let u know soon ,as my 1st full tank is not over yet.......
it need not be over jeetu4444, after driving 200-300 km, you can refill the tank & get the FE.

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@ RX135 and GTO,
I know, and this is the most confusing part of it altogether. I don't know if rear seat comfort can vary that sharply from that in front, but I felt the difference acutely when riding in the back. It was really very trampoline like. Sure there were no hard thuds, but I really had to hold on to something (the handle above the window, what do we call this, a car sissy-bar?) to keep myself upright. It definitely felt like it rolled a lot, and this was at moderate speeds - 35 ish.

A general question - when I asked the salesguy if the suspension could be tuned to make it firmer, he replied in the negative. Now to the more tech-literate here, is it technically feasible to get a firmer ride by tuning the existing suspension on a Verna (which means the salesguy was only talking from a warranty point of view) ? What does this entail?
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Old 14th December 2006, 21:04   #365
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Due to my time restrictions I was unable to test drive the Vernas. Yesterday I found the time as I went to rectify a minor problem with my viper which was making a slight sound on my Accent.

I decided to drive the diesel first as against most of the people did here to compare how the petrol behaves after a CRDi drive. As I am a relatively well known customer in Popular Hyundai, Cochin it was the Senior Team Leader who sat with me instead of the usual sales guy. It was 11:30 am and the temperature must be around 32 to 33 degree centigrade.

It was a red Verna. As far as looks are concerned no newer cars (Fiesta, Aveo and Verna) and also the City gives a good inspiration for me. Aveo is the only better design among these personally for me. The Verna didn't look boring nor exciting. Looks have to get adjusted to be frank.

Interiors were not exciting either but found far far better than my Accent. Compare with others (Fiesta, Aveo and City) not really up to it. Again not boring not exciting. Controls are well laid out and easy to reach. What really impressed me is the overall visibility and the rear view mirrors were large (may cause problems in city driving) and provides a good view behind. The seating position really got me impressed as I am 6 feet tall and the gear lever is so conveniently placed. Started the vehicle and yes it does feel its a diesel compared to petrol cars with that high pressure feel but vastly improved from the Accent CRDi. Refinement is actually very good at idle. Put the first gear and didnt feel as smooth as Accent but had a planted feel. Not at all difficult to engage. Slowly went outside the dealership and then pulled ahead. A/c chilled by this time which made me feel its better even than the Accent. Pulled ahead and as you all rightly said it was power anywhere. Didn't quite feel the turbo lag. Steering is very responsive and predictable. Turns smoothly. Was testing on NH 47 4 lane road and I got an empty road after abt 10 mins of driving. Decided to press the pedal at 3rd gear. The CRDi engine showed its true color. It went off. Went upto 80 in the 3rd and shifted to 4th and boy it was power there too. Went close to abt 110 as per the guy sitting beside me and had to apply the brakes as there were vehicles again on front. Brakes were very good and this was a non abs version. It's really addictive. Felt quite safe driving.
Came back to the dealership with my heart saying to buy this car immediately.

Took the Petrol Verna Xi with the same guy beside me. The engine is a sweet one. Extremely refined. I didnt even knew the engine was on. Great....Took it out and didnt feel any power difference from the CRDi initially. in fact I thought it was more powerful than the CRDi in the second gear. Then I realised what is in fact the "turbo lag" in the CRDi. Things changed on 3rd gear. The CRDi is superior to the petrol. But the power was not low enough to make the driving a boring affair. It went off quite smoothly. On driving noticed that the front [art wobbled a bit more than the Accent and the Verna CRDi on entering a bridge at a speed of 70 km/h. At the bridge entry there was a bumpy part and it wobbled. I dont know if it was a personal feeling. I didnt notice that in the CRDi. Got back to the dealership and I was very satisfied with both drives though CRDi drive was a special one.

I asked the guy why should I consider Verna Petrol over the Honda City since both are almost same in prices? He said, Verna has a better ground clearance, better suspension and lower maintenance costs. Also the technology of Verna is better than City. When I asked about mileage he said on highway driving it will fetch 14-15 kms/l and 9-10 kms/l on cities.

The guy was excellent and explained everything about the technologies of VTVT and VGT.

Now the problem I'm facing is that I'm not liking to drive my Accent
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Question: Now the problem I'm facing is that I'm not liking to drive my Accent
Answer: Came back to the dealership with my heart saying to buy this car immediately.
Dude you have already answered your own question.
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Old 15th December 2006, 20:47   #367
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Dude you have already answered your own question.
Well budget problems to buy a Verna now. Will try for the all new Elantra later on.....
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Old 16th December 2006, 00:37   #368
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@ RX135 and GTO,
I don't know if rear seat comfort can vary that sharply from that in front, but I felt the difference acutely when riding in the back. It was really very trampoline like.
The ride quality does differ in front vs. rear. Also there is a perception question.

1. Ride is better in the front because, you are the furthest from any wheel. If you notice, the wheels are right underneath the back seat in most cars. Whereas they are under the engine hood up front.
2. Also, most people driving bother only about their comfort while driving. At speedbreakers/ potholes etc., the speed when the rear seat is crossing the bump is at-least 5kmph more as the driver would have accelerated a bit.

Perception:
1. The driver is holding on to the steering and possibly gearshift and hence will move less. Also likely he/she is wearing a seatbelt. Also likely that he/she is involved in driving. Hence the bumps are felt less.

2. The back passenger is not holding anything and possibly not wearing seatbelts and is possibly feeling the bumps more !!
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guys removed average of my verna crdi it gave me 14kpl with 90% with a/c , in city driving def more than my indigo......well still to go on highway........keep rocking ......verna rocks.guys this car is sooo smooth and powerfull that i keep on driving it......well planing to put 16inc alloys with 195 good year tyres.......any suggestion plz tell.......
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14 is a good FE with AC in a city like mumbai.

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guys removed average of my verna crdi it gave me 14kpl with 90% with a/c , in city driving def more than my indigo......well still to go on highway........keep rocking ......verna rocks.guys this car is sooo smooth and powerfull that i keep on driving it......well planing to put 16inc alloys with 195 good year tyres.......any suggestion plz tell.......
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this info realy helped me to learn more abt Verns
thnx all
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guys the suspension is amazing according to me. well i have sat behind when my friend was driving my car above 80 with curves and potholes. me was planted on my seat.
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Folks,

Jeetu has give his FE for Verna CRDi.
I picked up a Kyara coloured (dark chocolate type) Verna Xi (Petrol).
City driving (with AC 90% on) was 10.10 Kkpl.

The driving is done by me (25%) and driver (75%).
It is smooth (takes the bump very well) and slient.
Have been keeping the vehicle within 3000 rpm and speed within 80 kpl. The standard breaking in of new vehicles, even though it is not mandatory.

I am pretty much happy with the Verna Xi.
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Folks,

Jeetu has give his FE for Verna CRDi.
I picked up a Kyara coloured (dark chocolate type) Verna Xi (Petrol).
City driving (with AC 90% on) was 10.10 Kkpl.

The driving is done by me (25%) and driver (75%).
It is smooth (takes the bump very well) and slient.
Have been keeping the vehicle within 3000 rpm and speed within 80 kpl. The standard breaking in of new vehicles, even though it is not mandatory.

I am pretty much happy with the Verna Xi.
10.10 definitely is a good mileage for a 1600cc petrol engine. As per Autocar the mileage for 1500cc Honda City in city conditions is 10.7 kpl.

Considering the performance upperhand of the Verna thats not much of a difference.
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10.10 definitely is a good mileage for a 1600cc petrol engine. As per Autocar the mileage for 1500cc Honda City in city conditions is 10.7 kpl.

Considering the performance upperhand of the Verna thats not much of a difference.
nhc-gxi gives better average.interior is better and rear seat comfort is excellent in nhc.
what about safety and crash result in both cars?
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