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Old 18th September 2016, 18:55   #46
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I spent the weekend fixing the harness for the horn, and also readying the wiring harness for the upcoming DRL and Fog lamp project. The mechanic at the dealership had done a shoddy wiring job, and this is what was present:

My Maruti Celerio ZXi(O) AMT - A rare variant-old-harn.jpg

It was just a pair of wires run around and taped wherever was required. I was not satisfied with it nor did I expect him to do a top notch job since it was beyond the scope of his job and the resources available to him. I only wanted them to be mounted at a proper location which wasnt possible from my side. Now that it was mounted, I did the wiring myself. Prepared this harness with the appropriate connectors and tubing as necessary:

My Maruti Celerio ZXi(O) AMT - A rare variant-new-harn.jpg

Installed the harness:

My Maruti Celerio ZXi(O) AMT - A rare variant-horn.jpg

My Maruti Celerio ZXi(O) AMT - A rare variant-horn2.jpg

Thank god the guy did not cut the horn wire and had made a clean incision into the existing wire and tapped the signal from there. I used a splice connector and tapped the power onto my harness:

My Maruti Celerio ZXi(O) AMT - A rare variant-splice.jpg

However when I took the picture, I had not yet closed the splice connectors, so it looks open.

End of the day, now I have a clean and a reliable setup that will last the entire lifetime of the vehicle instead of the tape job which will hardly last a few seasons.
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My car got a much awaited, well deserved and highly needed add on:
My Maruti Celerio ZXi(O) AMT - A rare variant-img_0743.jpg

By the way, the wet look is because of Sonax I had got from Germany. Applied it a few weeks back and must say its an amazing product.

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I spent the weekend fixing the harness for the horn, and also readying the wiring harness for the upcoming DRL and Fog lamp project.
So I understand that I should get a splice connector, PVC tubing and some connectors.

Now where do I go looking for this stuff, electrical shops?

Basically I wish to prepare this wiring and go to the horn guy and ask him to use my "creation" to wire the horn. But I'm a total noob when it comes to wiring etc. So I'm trying to figure out what all do I need to gather and how do I prepare this wiring?
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So I understand that I should get a splice connector, PVC tubing and some connectors.

Now where do I go looking for this stuff, electrical shops?

Basically I wish to prepare this wiring and go to the horn guy and ask him to use my "creation" to wire the horn. But I'm a total noob when it comes to wiring etc. So I'm trying to figure out what all do I need to gather and how do I prepare this wiring?
1. Yes, you can get it from electrical shops.
2. Its not PVC but heat shrink tubing. Splice connector is a little difficult to find but you can order them from ebay.
3. Yes, you can create this and lend it to the mechanic, that time the job will be perfect.
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1. Yes, you can get it from electrical shops.
2. Its not PVC but heat shrink tubing. Splice connector is a little difficult to find but you can order them from ebay.
3. Yes, you can create this and lend it to the mechanic, that time the job will be perfect.
Hi Audioholic long time no updates, curious to know how are things with celerio any new addons? How's celerio treating you
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Hi Audioholic long time no updates,
Had been to Germany for a few weeks and hence was away from the car. It was being used by my father occasionally. Since he covered in one month what I cover within a week, there was nothing much to update. I had initially assumed that he will touch the 5k mark for me, but he didnt.

Buuuuttt...

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curious to know how are things with celerio any new addons? How's celerio treating you
I came back the previous weekend, and on monday had to go to work. Was returning early since jet lag was hitting me, and in this jet lag I drove into an accessory shop which I never do and got this:

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This thing was on cards from a long time and I had initially planned to order one online and do the install myself since it isnt a big deal at all. However, I was worried about getting scammed since this product, the Blaupunkt GT8200 was only available on snapdeal and paytm, both of which I dont trust. Just checked with the shop and they quoted 8k for this one which was more than what was the price online by 1k or so. However, firstly, I would get the product immediately, and also, I didnt have the time to do the install since most of my upcoming weekends are booked with some or the other plan.

Why I went in for a sub? I had spoken earlier about the SQ of the stock music system. It was decent but the bass would be distorted and it would also cause the door panels to rattle at medium volumes. Hence, I needed a simple and a small sub that could take away the load of bass on the stock speakers and let them do their job of playing the higher frequencies. In addition to this, I am also a liker for frequencies below 100Hz which was pathetic in the stock speakers. Hence, as a first step of ICE upgrade I was considering a sub and/or damping. The sub happened first.

Why this product? This was the best plug and play solution available for the size of the car and the budget I had. I did not want to spend a lot on ICE since I think its overkill for this car. It has got an inbuilt class D amplifier, line level converter and a nice enclosure right out of the box. So no hassles of getting a separate list of items to support the sub. Apart from this, the next option was Rockford Fosgate which I actually love but that was twice the price of this one. Did not feel like spending so much. Another thing is I dont prefer the bass to go out of the cabin like how people drive around with loud music. Hence, a bigger sub would be overkill for this car and it would have caused some rattles too

Install was simple, the signal from rear speakers was tapped and fed to amplifier. Only the power line was taken from battery and there was no need of a turn on signal either. And the shop did a neat install which I was paranoid of. They used a generous amount of tape to create a nice harness, along with a good amount of cable ties to secure the wiring to the car.

The result was as I expected though there is some tuning I would want to do sometime when I can spare some time and go to an open and silent place. Just the right amount of bass and goes out of the car only when the volume is really high. Else its all confined to the car.

Apart from this, the LED DRL and Fogs got me very impressed and now I am thinking of LED for the headlights too.

Second service will be done sometime next week since the car is currently at 4700. The car has been excellent in its tasks and the only issue I have is with the clutch which judders when it gets hot which I think its a common issue. But as a product, MS have come a long way from the WagonR platform and its definitely the better pick of the two.
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Neat setup hope it sounds great too the only downside is the sub eats up half of the boot space, Ive also booked a zxi(o) amt variant delivery is on monday. Was planning to do a tyre upgrade to 195/55r15 with a good alloy. What will be ur opinion on upgrading to 15 with the said tyre
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Neat setup hope it sounds great too the only downside is the sub eats up half of the boot space, Ive also booked a zxi(o) amt variant delivery is on monday. Was planning to do a tyre upgrade to 195/55r15 with a good alloy. What will be ur opinion on upgrading to 15 with the said tyre
It doesnt take half the boot space. Maybe a quarter of it. And if at all you need boot space entirely, its always detachable within a few minutes.

195 or even 185 would be overkill. I am not sure if this will work since you might end up with the tyre scraping the arch or the claddings during turns. My bet would be on a 185 only. I was planning to do an upgrade but right now, I dont feel the need for it since for my usage, the tyres are not at all disappointing. Maybe I will consider an upgrade when I need to change them tyres.
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Continuing the tweaks, this arrived today :

My Maruti Celerio ZXi(O) AMT - A rare variant-img_3298.jpg

Stay tuned, lets see when I will get time to get my hands on! As a starter, some of the annoying chrome bits will go. And then other stuff..

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Superb Thread Audioholic.

I thoroughly enjoyed reading the complete thread, responses and your updates. In fact I was thinking of buying Ignis AMT but after reading your thread, I am confused. haha.

Looking forward to know what all tweaks you are further done on your car.
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Well as usual I was busy driving to work and back and didnt really update this thread. But to give a short status report,
  • 6300kms done as of today. It shortly touches six months in 14 days from now.
  • Due to working from home a couple of days, the pace of the odometer has reduced but partially compensated by runs to my native every week or two.
  • Faced an issue with clutch judder but the clutch disc was replaced under warranty.
  • Face another creaking noise from engine bay and after two visits to service center and a round of taking a few people to task, they have decided to replace the silencer O rings.
  • Niggles apart, both me and my dad are thoroughly enjoying the car. Something that didnt happen with our earlier WagonR.
  • Engine smoothness and response has become slightly better and at idle, the engine is barely audible. So silent that upon opening the bonnet the only audible component is the clatter of the timing chain.
  • AMT has never shifted against the condition or our will. These days the manual mode finds lesser use compared to before. But that is a must for me in the few places where it is really needed.

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Superb Thread Audioholic.

I thoroughly enjoyed reading the complete thread, responses and your updates. In fact I was thinking of buying Ignis AMT but after reading your thread, I am confused. haha.

Looking forward to know what all tweaks you are further done on your car.
Thank you

I wouldn't want to comment on your choice nor opine between the Ignis and Celerio since it's a different price band you are talking of.

Regarding updates, the roof is now black. Apart from this nothing else has been done. The Sub has really helped make the overall audio better and my earlier idea of upgrading front speakers to components has been shelved. Instead, thinking of doing some damping. The mods will mostly stop at this stage since whatever I need for a daily drive is fulfilled and it is pointless to dump more time and money on doing fancy stuff.

After this, it will be more of keeping the car in top shape mechanically and technically since its gonna cover quite some miles.
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I had to pay an additional 13k for ABS, EBD, Brake assist and a passenger airbag. This was a superb offer and compared to old times, Maruti Suzuki did not charge a premium that would shoo away people from opting for the safety kit.
Based on what I saw in the Maruti Brochures, I could only find mention about ABS in terms of the Safety Feature. Checked the website as well. Is there really an EBD and Brake Assist included in the Safety Kit?

Interesting, the price difference between the AMT and AMT(O) in case of the Vxi is about 30K and for the Zxi is only 15,944 (as of today On Road Price Bangalore).

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Based on what I saw in the Maruti Brochures, I could only find mention about ABS in terms of the Safety Feature. Checked the website as well. Is there really an EBD and Brake Assist included in the Safety Kit?

Interesting, the price difference between the AMT and AMT(O) in case of the Vxi is about 30K and for the Zxi is only 15,944 (as of today On Road Price Bangalore).
EBD is an additional feature bundled with ABS and this is no longer mentioned separately, or the people who designed the website/brochure were not given EBD in the list of features to showcase. However, here is an extract from the manual:

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If the ABS warning light (1) and the Brake system warning light (2) on the instrument panel simultaneously stays on or comes on when driving, both anti-lock function and rear brake force control function (proportioning valve function) of the ABS system may have failed. If so, the rear wheels may easily skid or the vehicle can even spin in the worst case when braking on a slippery road or when hard braking even on a dry paved road. Ask your MARUTI SUZUKI dealer to inspect the ABS system immediately. Drive carefully, avoiding hard braking as much as possible.
This rear brake force control function is nothing but EBD. And for brake assist, here is what the manual says:

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Your vehicle has power-assisted brakes. If power assistance is lost due to a stalled engine or other failures, the system is still fully operational on reserve power and you can bring the vehicle to a complete stop by pressing the brake pedal once and holding it down. The reserve power is partly used up when you depress the brake pedal and reduces each time the pedal is pressed. Apply smooth and even pressure to the pedal. Do not pump the pedal.

Brake Assist System (if equipped)

When you slam the brakes on, the brake
assist system judges as an emergency
stop and provides more powerful braking
for a driver who cannot hold down the
brake pedal firmly.
BAS is again bundled with the ABS(though the BAS functionality is provided by the brake booster) since there is no risk of skidding due to the extra vacuum assistance provided in case of emergency braking. This combination makes a real difference in the braking experience be it during high speed braking or under emergency conditions.

The reason the optional variant costs lesser on the ZXi is because the regular ZXi already comes with a driver airbag and related equipment. The only addition will be a passenger airbag and ABS. Since the Celerio has been built for the export market, I am told that lesser components need to be added for adding ABS and hence is the lesser price difference compared to a WagonR.
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Thanks audioholic for the initial review and regular updates. I too have booked a ZXI(O) AMT on 23rd Jan and am awaiting delivery by 10th of Feb.

The dealer had a ZXI AMT in stock; in the color (red) that I wanted and was pushing me really hard to go in for the in stock car but I made it very clear that safety is a priority and that it cannot be neglected.

I am not getting the 'coatings ' done from the dealership. They are offering engine bay / underbody and body coating from some japanese company for around 8k. I thought that I will get this done later from 3M which is quite close to the place that I live.
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BAS is again bundled with the ABS(though the BAS functionality is provided by the brake booster) since there is no risk of skidding due to the extra vacuum assistance provided in case of emergency braking. This combination makes a real difference in the braking experience be it during high speed braking or under emergency conditions.
AFAIK, Celerio or Baleno(which i own) comes with only ABS coupled with EBD (Electronic BrakeForce Distribution). These cars didn't consist of Brake Assist which i feel is one of the most important and equally important safety feature. Basically it does what have been quoted by you, due to lack of BAS, i have into trouble twice(though the Ride was different) because due to the urgency i wanted greater brake power within very short duration of time and that's where BAS comes in handy. Seriously disappointed that BAS is not included, from Wagor R to S-Cross in any of their offering.
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