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Old 9th July 2017, 22:21   #46
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Looks great...had it been black alloys it would have enhanced the look manifold. Did you get these online?
Thanks mate! Yes, purchased online from ebay.

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By the way I'm shocked to hear that Honda is supplying rusted parts for assembly, which has to be coated/painted when a customer complains about it
Well, for us its rusted and not good. As per Honda, even if rusted, its going to perform its intended job for years without any issues. So, they save cost. Think of it as 3000 Jazz + 7000 City cars are being manufactured in a typical month. Painting cost + time + labor cost per car is 50/- per car, so the total cost saved by Honda is 5Lac per month only from this.

Yes, these things "weren't" expected from Honda, but like I said earlier in this review, Honda's graph has been a downward trend. Thanks.

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Old 11th July 2017, 22:06   #47
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An update further, sharing below the response received from Honda on the 2 issues(rusted tie rods and incorrectly billed for the quantity of engine oil at 2 different HASS). While I appreciate them and the HASS for having taken care of my concerns, without commenting I leave it completely unbiased on the audience to comprehend their reply to me. Thanks.

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Dear Sir,

With reference to your concerns we would like to submit as follows:

# Related rusting on tie rod:
The rusting observed in your vehicle during the inspection has been found to be superficial in nature and it has no affect whatsoever on the performance of the car over time. You would acknowledge that all parts fitted to the car (specially the ones with no aesthetic value) may develop superficial rust on the exposed area.We assure you of the performance and quality of the vehicle and request you to not keep any apprehension on the same.

# Related engine oil amount:
We understand that our dealership have already confirmed you to refund you the excess amount charged for engine oil. We have taken necessary counter measures to avoid recurrence of the similar concern.The same was a clerical error and taken up with respective person in charge.

For any further assistance please do write again.

Kind regards,

Customer Relations
Honda Cars India Ltd.
PS: Purged out the undersigned name from the quoted text to maintain privacy.

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Old 21st July 2017, 15:45   #48
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No hesitation in announcing that this is one of the "Top 5 most loved" posts I have ever seen on Team-BHP. Very detailed indeed. Nohonking, you are speaking my mind almost 80% of the time !

After owning Maruti Swift for 11 years, in September 2016 I switched to Jazz VMT (Orchid White). Initially it was difficult. I was not used to "Out of Sync" behavior of Jazz. Out of sync means, you press the throttle and hear the engine revving..but that does not reflect in speed immediately. Swift was simple. Press the throttle and get the speed accordingly. I have suffered a lot initially. But slowly got used to it. Now I admire her almost noiseless cabin, sluggish yet refined engine, slightly better build quality than Swift. But Jazz demands careful driving. She likes to be pampered properly. Swift was always ready for you to abuse her and yet be smiling next day ! Body roll is less in Jazz and feels more planted.. may be because of longer wheelbase. You pointed it out correctly. One more thing I like about Jazz is that she is absolutely noiseless under good road conditions. The very first compliment I got from my father (who is my best critic) was that this is more silent than Swift !
The only other thing I feel the Jazz lacks in comparison with Swift is that the feel of steering. Although it is light at low speeds and sufficiently heavy on highways, I think it is bit lifeless. It does it's job well but I would have liked it to "connect with the road" a bit more. But these are small things and can be ignored. Overall good car !

Bookmarking this post because I think our wavelengths match.

Cheers !!

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Fuel gauge on my Jazz has only 1 bar left today and I found engine to be very refined and with more torque (wow ).

Everytime fuel level is low (last 2/3 bars), I have observed that the car gets much more smoother. She is more quieter and there is increase in pickup at low RPM's.

Anyone here has observed this behavior (or vice versa ?).

Nohonking, any comments ?

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Everytime fuel level is low (last 2/3 bars), I have observed that the car gets much more smoother. She is more quieter and there is increase in pickup at low RPM's.

Anyone here has observed this behavior (or vice versa ?).

Nohonking, any comments ?
Dear Abhaybakshi,

Apologies for the delayed response. Why? Simple, had to wait my Jazz go low on the fuel and then let me focus on the points(smoother, quieter, torque-y) mentioned by you.

So, I did let it reach the 2 pointer and drove it for about 30 km today morning to the HP "company owned company operated" filling station where the range showed 42 km.

1.5 years with my Honda Jazz V MT-filling.jpg

Then post 34.9 L of filling(at auto-cut), again focused on those points on my way back to notice if there is indeed any difference felt?

My observations:

Smoother: No difference noticed. Same as before.

Quieter: No difference noticed. Same as before.

Better torque: Well, felt it was slightly better while I drove all the way to feed her than while drove her back fully loaded. A possible & a most logical reason could be the "added weight of fuel"(~almost half that of an adult).

Lesser the weight = More BHP per kg = Slightly better pickup(~torque)


That said, this difference wasn't that significant.

On another note, you can see MID says 18.1 kmpl. The car did 605 km in 34.9 litres at auto-cut. So using tank full to tank full method, the FE is 17.34 kmpl, driven all local but on open roads with an attempt to avoid the traffic as far as possible.

Thanks and do drive your car safely!

Cheers // Simmi
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Thank you !

It seems to me that fuel quality may be the culprit here. To test this theory, I filled at different Shell fuel bunk and the car seems refined throughout. I will post more observations if any here.

Insurance renewal is due and I am thinking to go for comprehensive insurance instead of zero dep. Will save me a whopping 7.5k. As usual dealer is insisting on zero dep insurance but I am a sedate and careful driver. So the chances of me hitting someone is almost zero (can't say others hitting me !). But still I think spending 7.5k more for zero dep. is not worth.

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Hi Nohonking, a question for you if you can answer. I'm noticing a slight vibration in the gas pedal on both idle and running since yesterday. It's not obvious when driving with a shoe but really noticeable when driving barefoot. I'm sure the vibration was not there before. I just completed my first service as well.

Have you noticed any such vibration in the pedal in your car? I feel occasional vibration in the gear lever but that happens when on low RPMs and goes away but this is new to me.

As it's happening in idle as well, I'm discounting the tyres or their pressure. Could it be something wrong with the engine or the cable connecting the pedal to engine? I wonder if it's something serious to take it to the service center immediately.
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Good day Yieldway17,

Apologies for the delayed response. Didn't get any notification for having being quoted. Just checked my thread to notice your query.

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I'm noticing a slight vibration in the gas pedal on both idle and running since yesterday. It's not obvious when driving with a shoe but really noticeable when driving barefoot.
There isn't any vibration in the gas pedal felt in my car. However, I have had never a chance of driving it barefooted. Not even with slippers as a matter of fact. Hence not in a position to advise you true sense.

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I feel occasional vibration in the gear lever but that happens when on low RPMs and goes away but this is new to me.
Your observation is correct. While picking up in 3rd gear with your had resting on the leather wrapped knob waiting to pull it back to 4th, some vibrations are felt. However, these will eventually fade as you'll put in more mileage to your carriage. A significant difference will be felt after about 5K on the odo. So no need to worry, let your car run-in further.

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I wonder if it's something serious to take it to the service center immediately.
IMO, these vibrations in the gas pedal(felt barefooted) are nothing to worry about and do not think you need to show it at HASS. Also, certain minor changes are evident as you subject your car to wear(running-in). Thanks.

Take good care & wish you a happy driving.

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Good day Yieldway17,


IMO, these vibrations in the gas pedal(felt barefooted) are nothing to worry about and do not think you need to show it at HASS. Also, certain minor changes are evident as you subject your car to wear(running-in). Thanks.

Take good care & wish you a happy driving.

Cheers!
Thank you! That makes me not to worry when on the road. And thanks again for answering my questions patiently.
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