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Old 16th October 2007, 20:54   #166
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hi
i got quote from bhartam motors surat
they says axis bank offers 8.75% interest rate for safari2.2
Ex4x2 856754 ex show room
728000 loan amount
23060 x 36
8.75%

15570 x 60
10 %

and + assesories + discount
isnt that gr8?
or they just trying to sell mule 2.2
Hey neo_trace
This is a really good EMI that you have got. works out to be 2138 per lac for 60 months. Me in delhi have got the following
Dealer A-One Motors, Moti Nagar, New Delhi
EX 4X2 861,477 (ex showroom) On Road (937,837)
Loan Amt 7,00,000
EMI 16030 * 60 Months (works out to be 2290 per lac) loan is from Tata Finance. The dealer is even asking for a processing fee of 2800.
On top of that there is no dealer discount and cash discount on the loan is 31000. As you too have mentioned a discount is that the loan discount or the dealer is offering you some discount and In Delhi they are not offering any accessories. Today is the first day I have inquired and will inquire further in the coming days.
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Hey neo_trace
This is a really good EMI that you have got. works out to be 2138 per lac for 60 months. Me in delhi have got the following
Dealer A-One Motors, Moti Nagar, New Delhi
EX 4X2 861,477 (ex showroom) On Road (937,837)
Loan Amt 7,00,000
EMI 16030 * 60 Months (works out to be 2290 per lac) loan is from Tata Finance. The dealer is even asking for a processing fee of 2800.
On top of that there is no dealer discount and cash discount on the loan is 31000. As you too have mentioned a discount is that the loan discount or the dealer is offering you some discount and In Delhi they are not offering any accessories. Today is the first day I have inquired and will inquire further in the coming days.
why are we talking about the EMI discussions in this thread Also, this shifted the focus from a very interesting discussion about the performance of 2.2 against 3.0. God save the forum
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Old 16th October 2007, 22:34   #168
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Default Idling RPM of 2.2???

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Can anyone please post what was the idling rpm of the 2.2 test drive vehicles ASAP - I did not notice it while test driving.

Now the cycus grey 2.2 that is coming to me showed an idling rpm of just below the 1 mark. The noise I found in the cabin was quite high, and I am quite sure that the test drive vehicle was quieter.
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Can anyone please post what was the idling rpm of the 2.2 test drive vehicles ASAP - I did not notice it while test driving.

Now the cycus grey 2.2 that is coming to me showed an idling rpm of just below the 1 mark. The noise I found in the cabin was quite high, and I am quite sure that the test drive vehicle was quieter.
somewhere near 800 - 850 rpm is what I observed on the TD 2.2
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Nice observation power ranger. This should make it more readable and understandable :



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I have the 3.0 catalogue with me - a very interesting observation is that the 3.0 has a torque of about 240 Nm @ 1000 rpm, peaks to 300 @ 1800 rpm and tapers to 260 Nm @ 3000 rpm.
The 2.2 has 180 Nm torque @ 1000 rpm, 300 @ 1500 rpm, 320 @ 2000 rpm and drops off to 250 @ 4000 rpm.
so you see that the 3.0 has higher torque both at low end and higher end.
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Dadu. Thanks for the graph. It makes it so much more earier for guys like us to understand.
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so you see that the 3.0 has higher torque both at low end and higher end.
Agree with you on lower end, but the difference is pretty minimal on the higher end. If anything, you have a wider rpm range in which 300+Nm torque is available on 2.2L.
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Agree with you on lower end, but the difference is pretty minimal on the higher end. If anything, you have a wider rpm range in which 300+Nm torque is available on 2.2L.
But the 140 horses are never really felt. wonder where the horses are
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They are still ponies give them some time.

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They are still ponies give them some time.

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Turby: When are you getting ur dicor ??
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turbanman: Where's your VX. Am waiting for your feedback to book my truck.
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and drops off to 250 @ 4000 rpm.
Diesel engines torque characteristics are such they peak below 3000RPM levels, be it for any car, so you cant expect it to have more torque or max torque at 4000rpm.

3.0 is past, i would recommend people buy the newer version 2.2 just for the fantastic NVH.

Also anyone read 2.2 review in HT Cafe, that person who wrote it hates the Safari IMO, he called the ride of the car as a con
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Also anyone read 2.2 review in HT Cafe, that person who wrote it hates the Safari IMO, he called the ride of the car as a con
Indeed that was unwarranted. But it's good to remember there's no smoke without a fire.
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Indeed that was unwarranted. But it's good to remember there's no smoke without a fire.
In this case that guy must be smoking something.
Safari may have a million flaws, but the ride quality is definitely not one of them.
As for the horses, I drove the 3.0 before the TD and after the TD. If you learn to keep it above 1600rpm, all the horses are galloping.
I pulled from 50 in 5th gear all the way to 100 in such a smooth manner. The 3.0 feels antiquated in comparison.
Now only if people buy 1500+ a month, so that there is enough R&D for me to buy in January
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Hi Guys,

Dussera should do the trick. After all that messing around that seems to be the "Start of Delivery date" I hope anyways.

Keep the faith!

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