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Old 14th November 2007, 16:44   #436
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At one place he says:The Tata Safari now comes with a more responsive 2.2L Dicor engine, which replaces the lethargic and thirsty 3-litre Dicor.

About the 3.0L he says Lethargic, may be he is right. But, Thirsty! Gimme a break man! The only time I measured the mileage on my machine, it was 13.4 (25% town, 75% highway). What do people expect? 20-30 kmpl?

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There has been posted a wondeful article on Rediff.com under the section Business

rediff.com: Driving the Tata Safari

this is a wonderful test drive report which consists of

-- Dirt Track Test by a Rallyist
-- OffRoad
-- Highway and City Driving

the wonderful part is that all 3 categories have the videos uploaded too and they are of great viewing quality.

Also,the text of the slideshow has almost all the features of the beast described well and there are some very gud quality photographs too.

wonderful to see "Safari 2.2 VTT Dicor" getting the mention at Rediff.com

nice tactics by TATA
Thats truly awesome and an honest review. All the safari owners as well as non safari owners would agree to the facts mentioned in review. And the fact is "whether you like it not, its a great SUV priced very competitively for indian market"
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At one place he says:The Tata Safari now comes with a more responsive 2.2L Dicor engine, which replaces the lethargic and thirsty 3-litre Dicor.

About the 3.0L he says Lethargic, may be he is right. But, Thirsty! Gimme a break man! The only time I measured the mileage on my machine, it was 13.4 (25% town, 75% highway). What do people expect? 20-30 kmpl?
He maybe trying to compare it to the old TCIC engine (that he owns as he mentions the year 2000 model)
At the same time the average of the 2.2 is much better when compared to the 3.0.
My car (2.2) has given 11.43 to the liter (100% city driving) in the first 500 KMS which I think is great when compared to the average of 3.0 13.4 to the liter. And I think that it would improve after the cars 1st service and when the run in period is over.
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He maybe trying to compare it to the old TCIC engine (that he owns as he mentions the year 2000 model)
At the same time the average of the 2.2 is much better when compared to the 3.0.
My car (2.2) has given 11.43 to the liter (100% city driving) in the first 500 KMS which I think is great when compared to the average of 3.0 13.4 to the liter. And I think that it would improve after the cars 1st service and when the run in period is over.

Topped up my car's tank this morning, the mileage was 10. The vehicle has done 450Km to date.
Also did my first bit of 4X4 off-roading this morning on my way to office. There is a flyover being constructed close to the office and there was this huge mound of earth that they had piled up. I just couldn't resist . Loved the feeling and am just waiting to conquer the same on my way back home.
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My car (2.2) has given 11.43 to the liter (100% city driving) in the first 500 KMS which I think is great when compared to the average of 3.0 13.4 to the liter. And I think that it would improve after the cars 1st service and when the run in period is over.
Harjeev, I am not contending with your point about the 2.2 being more fuel efficient than 3.0L. I'm only questioning his point of calling 3.0 a thirsty engine. Thirsty is a bit too harsh!

BTW, the mileage I've quoted was also measured during running-in and before first service.

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But, Thirsty! Gimme a break man! The only time I measured the mileage on my machine, it was 13.4 (25% town, 75% highway).
Man, my commute is mostly in the city & its been no-where close to the mileage that you've got - but again your's is 75% highway driving so......

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My car (2.2) has given 11.43 to the liter (100% city driving) in the first 500 KMS which I think is great when compared to the average of 3.0
Super mileage I must say - if this is a pointer, then the 2.2 returns bloody good FE. I've been getting between 9.5 & 9.8 consistently on my 3.0 L (except a few occasions when it went lower)

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Topped up my car's tank this morning, the mileage was 10. The vehicle has done 450Km to date.
This is close to (but better than) what I get on my 3.0L
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but people should be happy with Safari returning constant 10-12 kmpl in city and 12-14 kmpl on highways.

this is what i get from my 3.0 L,

if someone expects Safari to deliver 25 kmpl then its the case of bad expectations and they should consider buying something else.

i know lot of 3.0L owners who are happy with this mileage.

and i also believe that "THIRSTY" is a bit too harsh for 3.0L considering it runs on Diesel.

and if 2.2 exceeds above quoted figures then it will be bonus situation.

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but people should be happy with Safari returning constant 10-12 kmpl in city and 12-14 kmpl on highways.

this is what i get from my 3.0 L,

if someone expects Safari to deliver 25 kmpl then its the case of bad expectations and they should consider buying something else.

i know lot of 3.0L owners who are happy with this mileage.

and i also believe that "THIRSTY" is a bit too harsh for 3.0L considering it runs on Diesel.

and if 2.2 exceeds above quoted figures then it will be bonus situation.
Absolutely I agree.
The safari should not be classified as thirsty. It should be remembered that this is a 2 ton plus vehicle that we are talking about. And this is a very good average considering the weight ratio.
i would have been happy if my beast would have returned 10Plus.
Anything above that is a bonus
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Ive been riding the new safari for past 3 weeks. First servicce over. Done 2500+ km.

I should say the performance is excellent. Extremly smooth no external noise.
Tried on real bad roads, baveli to hd kota Bandipur forest mud and uneven roads.

Beware of body roll above 95.
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The end of the dirt track part and rock climbing part is great. I guess this will be the most severe off-roading an owner will get to do!
Where do you guys see off roading in this video ? I am sure that this my 4 X 2 3.0 will be able to achieve. what matters is how it drives with slushy mud and steep inclines Look at this video. I am not comparing or suggesting any thing here.
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Where do you guys see off roading in this video ? I am sure that this my 4 X 2 3.0 will be able to achieve. what matters is how it drives with slushy mud and steep inclines
Roger that! Those Rediff videos are rather poor examples of off-roading and 4WD abilities.
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Man, my commute is mostly in the city & its been no-where close to the mileage that you've got - but again your's is 75% highway driving so......
Keep the needle under redline for sometime and see the mileage shoot up
Gera gets close to 13 kmpl for his.
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Where do you guys see off roading in this video ? I am sure that this my 4 X 2 3.0 will be able to achieve. what matters is how it drives with slushy mud and steep inclines Look at this video. I am not comparing or suggesting any thing here.
What I meant was that
"This is the closest to offroading the average safari owner will ever go".
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I guess Im getting 16+ on highways on Reliance .
14+ on shell
13+ on speed.

filled for 10000 bucks so far. done 2500+ Km

65% highways

On ac in city the mileage sharply drops.

The climate is good so not using ac much
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Keep the needle under redline for sometime and see the mileage shoot up
Gera gets close to 13 kmpl for his.
Yah, I know - I told him it was incredible.

The problem with my truck is that I think it has an in-born instinct for the redline - how can I resist for 550-600 kms (distance travelled between tank fulls)
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