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Old 8th February 2008, 08:46   #106
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Don't we usually talk about trade-off between ride and handling?
Indeed we do. The requirements for the two are largely in conflict with one another. Which is why optimising the parameters to give a good balance between the two is a 'work of art', more than simple application of engineering knowledge.
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among sub 20 lakh SUVs, which is the example that gets this fine balance between ride and handling right?


the safari tried too hard to please the soft ride category, and therefore suffers in the handling department. cant blame tata for it because, the vast majority of people in our country prefer good ride over handling. also our rough roads don't help in letting the manufacturers swing the balance in favour of better handling
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among sub 20 lakh SUVs, which is the example that gets this fine balance between ride and handling right?
Let me say this once again - if you want handling, dont go for an SUV. Especially a body-on-frame SUV.
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Let me say this once again - if you want handling, dont go for an SUV. Especially a body-on-frame SUV.
everyone knows that. this car was'nt for handling. it is for size and road presence.
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among sub 20 lakh SUVs, which is the example that gets this fine balance between ride and handling right?
I'd say soft-roaders like the GV and CRV have managed the ride-handling balance darn well. Amongst the body-on-frame SUVs, the Pajero is incredible.
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Wonder why Hyundai Terracan is not involved in the comparison. I had seen few of them in Delhi.
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Wonder why Hyundai Terracan is not involved in the comparison. I had seen few of them in Delhi.

Because its not sold anymore.
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I'd say soft-roaders like the GV and CRV have managed the ride-handling balance darn well. Amongst the body-on-frame SUVs, the Pajero is incredible.
Exactly.
And this perhaps is the 'art' our homegrown makers need to master yet.
I wonder sometimes how much of a price penalty would be involved to do a suspension tuneup somewhat akin to these vehicles.
Force motors seems to be doing quite well in this regard.

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Exactly.
And this perhaps is the 'art' our homegrown makers need to master yet.
I wonder sometimes how much of a price penalty would be involved to do a suspension tuneup somewhat akin to these vehicles.
Force motors seems to be doing quite well in this regard.
Its not just a suspension activity alone that can save the day (Lotus tuned Scorpio still did not work well) as it has to be chassis upwards.. The scorpios, and tatas need to look at it ground up with some external help and learnings thus far...
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Because its not sold anymore.
Then Hyundai Tucson is also a phased out.
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Its not just a suspension activity alone that can save the day (Lotus tuned Scorpio still did not work well) as it has to be chassis upwards..
I'm not sure the Lotus tuned Scorpio is the best that Lotus can/would do for a car - they are constrained by the 'brief' they are given by the client!
The strong preference in India remains good ride; handling is important only to a very small cross section of the enthusiasts in the buying public.
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1. Tucson
2. Endeavour
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See how little bodyroll is evident in GV since it has the best of both worlds. Unlike softroaders, GV uni-body is welded onto a ladder frame.
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I'd say soft-roaders like the GV and CRV have managed the ride-handling balance darn well. Amongst the body-on-frame SUVs, the Pajero is incredible.
but are they SUVs? i have my doubts, especially the CRV
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