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Old 17th March 2009, 11:24   #1156
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Overcoming the mind barrier!....The redline feeling!!....its more of a psychological feeling than the man's/vehicle's abilities/capabilities... my two cents here since I have gone through this phase!!!!

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Overcoming the mind barrier!....The redline feeling!!....its more of a psychological feeling than the man's/vehicle's abilities/capabilities... my two cents here since I have gone through this phase!!!!

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VKJ: True. Yet there was an era when the concept of 'redline' itself was unheard of. I allude to the 70s and before when cars and bikes DID have redlines for sure, but pushing the envelope was never considered necessary, certainly not enough for regular machines to even be fitted with rev counters.

I remember going flat out in the family Standard 10, just to see what she would 'do' in first, but more than a speed achieved, I admit it was more an experiment to find out what she sounded like. And we (my cousin and I) did it in the premises of CSI Hospital! This was 1979.
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I remember going flat out in the family Standard 10, just to see what she would 'do' in first, but more than a speed achieved, I admit it was more an experiment to find out what she sounded like. And we (my cousin and I) did it in the premises of CSI Hospital! This was 1979.
I have driven home 25 kms at 3 am with a busted clutch stuck in first in my Standard 10 just 2 years back, it was not a pretty sound!
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I have driven home 25 kms at 3 am with a busted clutch stuck in first in my Standard 10 just 2 years back, it was not a pretty sound!

karlosdeville: Imagine the plight of this family friend who had to reverse his Studebaker President some heaps of miles over hills and dales when it got stuck in reverse gear (it was years back; he was touring).

Another time, some village mechanic got the firing order all mixed up and it ran like a winded calypso (it was the Studebaker V-8, perhpas I'm wrong about 'President').
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MadRash: You haven't ever redlined her? That's what I'd call one considerate foot.
Rajeev: I haven't redlined by beauty [the car, that is].. Never felt the need to.. She already does fly without having to take the needle anywhere close to the redline.

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ajay: Wish you a very happy married life. And Fabia will make it more happier. Its a nice car to spend time with your loved one.
MadRash: thanks a lot mate. I didn't tell my wife about the purchase of Fabia before the marriage [she didn't even know on the day I landed at the marriage hall in the morning]. It was a sweet surprise for her, and when she glanced the sunroof et al, she flipped

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k_ajay: So you got married?? Excellent. Well done and CONGRATS. No need to excuse yourself for the leave of absence- some things automatically get priority.

Good to have you back, Sir- If you wife is as enamoured of your wheels, please ask her to pen her thoughts for the benefit of the the Fabiosi. 'Twill be nice to have the views (and touch) of the fairer sex. They are wired differently (Mars and Venus thing -NO offence meant in any way), so we can expect some interesting angles.
RG sir, yes, I' ; m s'est mariť now.. And thanks for the wishes and welcome. Wifey is not so much a car enthusiast, but she does like the Fabia as a complete package [pst! she still talks of her dad's swift in the same breath as the Fabia... lol]. I will ask her to present her thought's angles here, and will post them if she provides any. Asking her to join this forum is the subject matter for another thread.


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Hey that's great news, My Heartiest Congratulations to you and your wife and from Netchef and all other fellow fabiosis. It's good to know that you enjoying life the way one should. Good to see around.

Good to hear that you venturing her out to the max, what she is perfect for. I have been wanting to have such a drive since long. Ya the car is rock solid at any given speed, I have travelled with it at 180 and it took those speed with shear confidence.
Invisible: Many thanks for your wishes.. The drive back to Bangalore [from Chennai] on the day after the marriage was exciting, under a star studded sky.. The road markers and cat blinkers [is that what those yellow blinking objects by the side of the road, are called?] were guiding excellently and the roads were excellent and 'Prim & Propah'. My sis-in-law who was coming with us to see her sister off, also commented the roads were as good as the ones she drives on, in LA, California.

Wow... 180 would be awesome to achieve, and I guess it may be safe to do that speed.. Since you have done it [and with adequate safety, I pray] it must be possible on other variants too, I'm guessing..

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One suggestion to all, always add 2-3 psi more on the highway drive for safety of the tyres to avoid it from heating.
Suggestion taken positively. Thanks for this tip.. I usually fill 32 on all tires when doing highway runs, but I think 32 psi is the normal fil..

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An Appeal:: Though I understand all Fabia owners here and a well educated and a learned lot, sometimes it is quite possible we slip and get lost in the joy of experimenting with our excellent steeds, on the highways.. It certainly is fun to do high speeds on our car [and mind you, it is a safe car to do it in, than many other cars currently plying on the road], but please do observe safe road and driving manners, when doing these high speeds.

Remember than along with this fun, we need to keep ourselves safe and our steeds safe for people back at home, and for the people sharing the roads wih us.. Driving spiritedly is fine, as long as we are also driving safely.

Cheers and be safe... aK

P.S: How about a small Fabia Bangalore meet sometime this weekend [Sunday morning/noon] on 22.03.09? I think there are more than a couple of Fabia owners in Bangy, and if its feasible, we can all meet up for coffee and let chieftain Rajeev G speak in English so we can all gawk in awe!

Let me know what works for everyone... Keep smiling..
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Old 17th March 2009, 16:12   #1161
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Just an astonishing fact about Skoda Fabia in the ACA Mar Edition.

Spares for the Fabia costs a whopping 1,57,000
Am not sure whether its a printing mistake since :

Swift : 45000
Getz : 49000
SX4 : 55000
Verna : 62000
Fiesta : 80000
Aveo : 90000
ANHC : 88000
Corolla,Civic : around 1,50,000
Skoda Laura : around 1,90,000

For most of the cars the ratio for part of spares to original cost of the car is somewhere around 6-10%.

For Fabia,its 27.6%

Civic,Corolla is cheaper to maintain despite being 2 segments higher.

Come on Skoda,there r not many rich ppl around
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anekho: thanks for the compliments
netchef & MadRash: yes it is a bottle of perfume and it is for my car since i love the fragrance a lot. the car was not washed befored i snapped the pics.. you can see that the interior is not clean.

i'm even posting two pics of the seat covers of a Fabia which was done by Ceralli.

hey guys, i do have a doubt i.e. will the warranty be affected or void if you install another horn from the showroom itself. the reason why i am asking this is because the service advisor at the showroom told me that if you replace or fit another horn onto the car they will have to pull another set of wire which might damage the electronics of the car.
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Rajeev: I haven't redlined by beauty [the car, that is].. Never felt the need to.. She already does fly without having to take the needle anywhere close to the redline.

RG sir, yes, I' ; m s'est mariť now.. And thanks for the wishes and welcome. Wifey is not so much a car enthusiast, but she does like the Fabia as a complete package [pst! she still talks of her dad's swift in the same breath as the Fabia... lol]. I will ask her to present her thought's angles here, and will post them if she provides any. Asking her to join this forum is the subject matter for another thread.


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An Appeal:: Driving spiritedly is fine, as long as we are also driving safely.

Cheers and be safe... aK

P.S: How about a small Fabia Bangalore meet sometime this weekend [Sunday morning/noon] on 22.03.09? I think there are more than a couple of Fabia owners in Bangy, and if its feasible, we can all meet up for coffee and let chieftain Rajeev G speak in English so we can all gawk in awe!

Let me know what works for everyone... Keep smiling..
k_ajay: If your wife contributes, she'll be the first lass-with-a-Fabia-story. And the two of you doing it together somehow rings true as one more common activity in your recent partnership.

If she'd prefer her own ID on the forum, that could work too. We leave it to her, BUT we'd welcome her, I'm sure.

Safe driving: I completely endorse your view.

Fabia Bangalore meet: great idea. Sundays are a bit tight for me as I cook for the fly, but perhaps Sunday a'noon?

chieftain Rajeev G speak in English: Ha Ha. Copywriters are actually shy folk!

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Just an astonishing fact about Skoda Fabia in the ACA Mar Edition.

Spares for the Fabia costs a whopping 1,57,000
joy_swift: What can I say but Oops!

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i'm even posting two pics of the seat covers of a Fabia which was done by Ceralli.
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FARDAN: I've always like Black interiors, but suspect they can get a tad hot. True?
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Old 17th March 2009, 21:22   #1164
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Old 17th March 2009, 21:35   #1165
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hey guys, i do have a doubt i.e. will the warranty be affected or void if you install another horn from the showroom itself. the reason why i am asking this is because the service advisor at the showroom told me that if you replace or fit another horn onto the car they will have to pull another set of wire which might damage the electronics of the car.
Fardan, it's best you talk to the chief service advisor at the SS yourself, after taking the car in, or on the phone. And my best recommendation is to go with whatever the chief advisor there suggests.

You don't want to stand with void-ed warranty on a Skoda car.. So be careful plz..

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k_ajay:

Fabia Bangalore meet: great idea. Sundays are a bit tight for me as I cook for the fly, but perhaps Sunday a'noon?

chieftain Rajeev G speak in English: Ha Ha. Copywriters are actually shy folk!
Shy folk? Copywriters? Naay, disagree. I know one with a loud mouth

Sunday a'noon is perfect with me.. Do you know of any other Fabia owners in Bangy? Any other Fabia owners willing to spend some time listening to RG talk??

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joy_swift: What can I say but Oops!
Well, you can scream, run, drop down and play dead on hearing those costs.. But most wisely, you can be very careful to protect your Fabia from every living and non-living thing, to avoid seeing those huge 'spare-part' bills..


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FARDAN: I've always like Black interiors, but suspect they can get a tad hot. True?
Not really.. Maybe Fardan's 2nd pic with all black leather interiors looks glossy, but from my experience on having black leather interiors, it doesn't get woefully hot, or uncomfortable to sit on..

But of course, it needs to be considered that my steed is almost never been parked under the sun, for hours together..
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Folks: Have any of you found the seat reclining knob to be difficult or hard to use? I find it extremely uncomfortable to use this rorating knob for adjusting the recline on the seat...

Far, my previous Indica has a simple but very ergonomical and easy to use 'Lever' for reclining my back rest...

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Post your comments on this please..

Many thanks.
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Some snaps I took today and earlier.
VKJ,

The last snap of the dash and IP console looks supreme with the interior lights on. Majestic.

I don't know why and have never thought of trying it ever before, but the snaps of this red Fabia, especially in twilight, are simply mesmerizing.

Congrats on a wonderful car. Is that a 1.4 TDI elegance, btw?

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Folks: Have any of you found the seat reclining knob to be difficult or hard to use? I find it extremely uncomfortable to use this rorating knob for adjusting the recline on the seat...

Far, my previous Indica has a simple but very ergonomical and easy to use 'Lever' for reclining my back rest...

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Regarding that lever and this knob, I think knob is much better than the lever system. We have M800 and Baleno. 800 has the knob system as highlighted by you. Baleno has lever system as you are talking about. The knob system allows better handling of the recline and helps one get to seating position in a better manner. Its like having stepless regulator for fan. In case of the lever system, there are predecided points that might not suit everyone. Anyone shorter than 5'6" will not like the lever system that is what I have observed. One might need the angle of recline to be such that it is between any two specific predecided points in the lever system.

I appreciate Skoda for providing this type of system as many cars now a days follow the lever system.
I am near 5'10" and I myself dont like the recline angle available in baleno. I want one position between two specific points, and I am spoiled by M800 in this case.
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I am not a Fabia owner.
Regarding that lever and this knob, I think knob is much better than the lever system. We have M800 and Baleno. 800 has the knob system as highlighted by you. Baleno has lever system as you are talking about. The knob system allows better handling of the recline and helps one get to seating position in a better manner. Its like having stepless regulator for fan. In case of the lever system, there are predecided points that might not suit everyone. Anyone shorter than 5'6" will not like the lever system that is what I have observed. One might need the angle of recline to be such that it is between any two specific predecided points in the lever system.

I appreciate Skoda for providing this type of system as many cars now a days follow the lever system.
I am near 5'10" and I myself dont like the recline angle available in baleno. I want one position between two specific points, and I am spoiled by M800 in this case.
Aah.. Good reasoning that, Aaggo.. I was wondering why Skoda put that there instead of the lever, but good on that, Skoda.. Thought it might be a bit tough initially to operate, I completely agree with the reasoning and logic here..

Thanks for sharing this Aagoo.. I'm happy Skoda has not missed the details on anything, in this car. Lovely...

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VKJ: congrats on your new ride. if i'm not wrong is this the first Corrida Red Elegance Fabia in this thread. any ways your car looks very good. i specially like the beige interior combination which i really wish i had in my car.
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WOW! This is thread is going guns again.. I like it keep it coming.

VKJ: Great choice of color and awesome pic liked the one with lights on, on that projector lamp.


FARDAN: I like the red seats more. Some what similar to mine which has a stanley's Sand and silver combo. Reg the horn I would suggest if you wanna put the after market horn just take of the OE horn out and replace it with the aftermarket one without cutting off any wire. No need for relay as its already provided. This way you will not hamper your warranty.

I fitted the Stebel Nautiles horn, as i have frequent highway travelling, it surely helps a lot but a lot more when it comes to Ricks. How i did that? Well I fitted a seperate push button along with a complete new wiring and relay instead of getting it connected with the present horn wiring and putting a toggle switch. Putting new wiring a push button helps as you don't hamper the OE wiring. When i took the car for service they checked what that push button was and found out that it's a horn. I showed the wiring done without cutting the OE wiring and they were fine with it. Cutting the OE wiring may also send errors to the ECU.
Having 2 horn helps when I am city I make use of the OE horn in city and when on highway or want to shoo away the ricks I use the Stebel. At times I use both by one hand on the steering horn pad and the other hand on stebel and it sounds like a mini train horn
Whatever it is it does a great job. Stebel has the output of 135db compared to OE which would be around 100-110DB. Just wondering what if I put 2 STEBEL horn

K_AJAY: I like the way you surprised your better half. I wonder how you manage to digest your excitement by not sharing with her for so long. What's the secret?
I completely agree with you regarding the safe drive. It's always exhilarating to indulge yourself in speeds excess of 120-140-160 but our poor traffic condition and unsafe roads makes you think 10 times before you do these speeds. I for once can only hold on to these speeds on the pune epressway and not our national highway. Have touched 120-140 for overtaking purpose but always settle down for 100-120 to be on safer side.
You play safe you stay safe.

REG : REDLINING: I have redlined on number of occasion without any powerloss, thanks to the remap. Power is available all the way to the redline. But, is it always safe? That's one question which goes into everyone's mind. Here's what I have to say.
Diesel engines have much more stronger internal engine parts compared to the petrol counterparts. Mainly because Diesel engine run on much higher compression than the petrol ones, it almost the double and also having the turbo running at higher boost creating more heat, no wonder intercooler is added to cool down the temp going( cold air is more dense has more oxygen than hot). With higher compression and much stronger internal parts, one will never have any issue coming up regarding the engine life as compared to the petrol one. Ofcourse one cannot keep it redlining it all the time. But, on some occasion that we do is never going to hurt. Driving with over revving is equally gonna be harmful as driving under revving. Most people change gears in diesel cars even before reaching 2000rpm and most of these people complain of turbo lag, that's coz they rarely make use of the peak turbo boost or peak power of torque that comes after 2000rpm which makes engine consume lesser fuel as compared to keeping it below 2000rpm. Why is that? Well with going upward of 1800rpm you are always gonna get more torque than driving below that in a turbo diesel car. Simple reason you get more torque after that. Torque is nothing but indirect power which helps in pulling the weight of the car than the horsepower. With more torque available one will have to press the throttle lesser compared to below 2000rpm, to reach certain speed. With new generation diesel cars you get higher torque than their petrol sibling and hence you get better in gear acceleration than petrol engine.
Anything in excess it gonna be bad. But redline on some occasion is not all that bad either. Diesel engine always tends to add more carbon in the intake manifold and in EGR valve. You will see that in the below pictures I have attached.
These carbon deposit or sooth is prone to get accumulated over a period of time. It's said that it cannot be avoided in diesel cars. By redlining it on some occasion once in a while you may inturn burn some of this carbon deposit. Simply because at higher revs there's more of heat energy and force of air coming in thanks to the turbo force feeding, which in turn pushes some of the carbon into the engine to help it burn.
If you see that the Synthetic oil on day one will look more clearer and whitish but once you start driving after few thousand kms you will notice it getting darker in colour almost turning black by the time your service is due. All this is coz of the carbon.
Revving the engine sometimes will help in buring this carbon from EGR valve and intake manifold and the accumulation will much lesser. With less carbon your car will drive smoother, have less turbo lag, no dropping in fuel average.
So, in a way redlining or high revving turns out to be healthy for the engine too.
I have noticed after my service that redlining is easier now coz prior to the service my EGR valve was choked and after cleaning it, it is much much smoother.
So don't be afraid of red lining your baby sometimes, it may also prove to be healthy at times.
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