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Old 2nd April 2009, 14:16   #1306
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The other 40 points is more of a joke, if you take a look at the job card you'll know(like, checking right indicator next comes checking left indicator etc etc).
Haha that is truly funny.. I'm eager to see what other jokes are there on the 40 points check list..
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Dear Fabiosi,

While we try to be at our optimistic best and hope for the best, I'm somehow not able to neglect the burgeoning problems that are popping up in the thread that HarishV had started, for the troubles Skoda has kept him with..

http://www.team-bhp.com/forum/indian...s-users-3.html (Team-BHP stands for the TRUTH. But Skoda wants to “instigate” Team-BHP and its users!)

There is a another member called EVO who has also been harrased by Skoda dealer in Kolkatta and also by SKODA AUTO themselves. They've not only been unfair to Deval, but also treated him unjustly and with service, to be ashamed off.

Please do read his experience to understand what I'm talking about. There are lot more horror stories..

I'm trying to be calm and ensure my Fab stays alright, but I am now afraid to consider visiting the dealership or service center for anything, knowing that the parent company is of such repute. SCARY!!!
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Thank you all guys who have helped clear the air regarding rpm/kmph/fuel efficiency, especially Invinsible sir your technical knowledge is awesome, thanks again.

Took my car to the camp yesterday, the only good thing done was that the AC filter was cleaned that has made a difference to cooling, its almost like new now. The other 40 points is more of a joke, if you take a look at the job card you'll know(like, checking right indicator next comes checking left indicator etc etc).
shykrish: Now is THAT an indicator??

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Dear Fabiosi,

While we try to be at our optimistic best and hope for the best, I'm somehow not able to neglect the burgeoning problems that are popping up in the thread that HarishV had started, for the troubles Skoda has kept him with..

http://www.team-bhp.com/forum/indian...s-users-3.html (Team-BHP stands for the TRUTH. But Skoda wants to “instigate” Team-BHP and its users!)

There is a another member called EVO who has also been harrased by Skoda dealer in Kolkatta and also by SKODA AUTO themselves. They've not only been unfair to Deval, but also treated him unjustly and with service, to be ashamed off.

Please do read his experience to understand what I'm talking about. There are lot more horror stories..

I'm trying to be calm and ensure my Fab stays alright, but I am now afraid to consider visiting the dealership or service center for anything, knowing that the parent company is of such repute. SCARY!!!
k_ajay: Good God. Is there light at the end of the tunnel?
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k_ajay: Good God. Is there light at the end of the tunnel?
I dunno if there is Rajeev but sure as hell hope it isn't a train headed our way, should there really be light @ end of tunnel..

We have a reason to truly be worried. Honestly, I'm just waking up to thousands of Skoda issues on the net [not that there aren't other manufacturers with troubled customers, but Skoda takes the cake, icing and the baker too].

I have yet to see another automobile manufacturer, that on official reply, had dared to state that they cannot help 'their own customer' anymore. Imagine, this comes from a company that makes good profits and where customers, [like you, me and he] has had to shell hard earned money ranging from 8 lakhs to over 20 lakhs.

Shouldn't we be worried, Fabiosi... Imagine this! The next time you leave you're car [any skoda] at the authorised service station, and they rob/exchange your car of a good part [that is pricey] and state that it's a goner and want you to replace it, at your COST.

And to beat that, the parent company will state that it hasn't happened inside the Auth SC but will still offer you a 50% off on goodwill.... lol

I am very worried already... aK

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I dunno if there is Rajeev but sure as hell hope it isn't a train headed our way, should there really be light @ end of tunnel..[/COLOR]

[COLOR=black]We have a reason to truly be worried. Honestly, I'm just waking up to thousands of Skoda issues on the net [not that there aren't other manufacturers with troubled customers, but Skoda takes the cake, icing and the baker too].[/COLOR]

[COLOR=black]I have yet to see another automobile manufacturer, that on official reply, had dared to state that they cannot help 'their own customer' anymore. Imagine, this comes from a company that makes good profits and where customers, [like you, me and he] has had to shell hard earned money ranging from 8 lakhs to over 20 lakhs.[/COLOR]

[COLOR=black]Shouldn't we be worried, Fabiosi... Imagine this! The next time you leave you're car [any skoda] at the authorised service station, and they rob/exchange your car of a good part [that is pricey] and state that it's a goner and want you to replace it, at your COST.[/COLOR]

[COLOR=black]And to beat that, the parent company will state that it hasn't happened inside the Auth SC but will still offer you a 50% off on goodwill.... lol[/COLOR]

[COLOR=black]I am very worried already... aK
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[COLOR=black]It seems like the culture in Skoda, it is not just one dealer but almost every dealer is in it. And the motivation factor is the expensive spares. The dealer with which I deal also has a bad history (source: mouthshut.com). I too have been thinking about it and folllowing is the result.[/COLOR]
  • [FONT=Verdana]Never leave the car with dealers overnight. As far as possible get the work done in front of you.[/FONT]
  • [FONT=Verdana]As long as we are in warranty period, we are better of. But lightening can strike anytime.[/FONT]
  • [FONT=Verdana]By next year this time, our warranties will start expiring. It may be a good idea to consider warrantydirect (or something similar)for insurance against expensive spare parts and labor. Will explore more on this and will keep reporting (ajay, you can throw some light here). Welcome to[/FONT]
  • [FONT=Verdana]The above step can only shield us from the cost of spares but not form the malpractices of the dealers. If things don't improve by then (which I doubt considering the light, tunnel and the oncoming trains), we may have to consider private garage. I have heard Bosch has opened service centres across india. What I want to know is how Bosch manages the original spares.[/FONT]
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I dunno if there is Rajeev but sure as hell hope it isn't a train headed our way, should there really be light @ end of tunnel..

We have a reason to truly be worried. Honestly, I'm just waking up to thousands of Skoda issues on the net [not that there aren't other manufacturers with troubled customers, but Skoda takes the cake, icing and the baker too].

I have yet to see another automobile manufacturer, that on official reply, had dared to state that they cannot help 'their own customer' anymore. Imagine, this comes from a company that makes good profits and where customers, [like you, me and he] has had to shell hard earned money ranging from 8 lakhs to over 20 lakhs.

Shouldn't we be worried, Fabiosi... Imagine this! The next time you leave you're car [any skoda] at the authorised service station, and they rob/exchange your car of a good part [that is pricey] and state that it's a goner and want you to replace it, at your COST.

And to beat that, the parent company will state that it hasn't happened inside the Auth SC but will still offer you a 50% off on goodwill.... lol

I am very worried already... aK
It seems like the culture in Skoda, it is not just one dealer but almost every dealer is in it. And the motivation factor is the expensive spares. The dealer with which I deal also has a bad history (source: mouthshut.com). I too have been thinking about it and folllowing is the result.

• Never leave the car with dealers overnight. As far as possible get the work done in front of you.
• As long as we are in warranty period, we are better of. But lightening can strike anytime.
• By next year this time, our warranties will start expiring. It may be a good idea to consider warrantydirect (or something similar)for insurance against expensive spare parts and labor. Will explore more on this and will keep reporting (ajay, you can throw some light here). Welcome to
• The above step can only shield us from the cost of spares but not form the malpractices of the dealers. If things don't improve by then (which I doubt considering the light, tunnel and the oncoming trains), we may have to consider private garage. I have heard Bosch has opened service centres across india. What I want to know is how Bosch manages the original spares.

I am sorry about the previous post.
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  • It may be a good idea to consider warrantydirect (or something similar)for insurance against expensive spare parts and labor. Will explore more on this and will keep reporting (ajay, you can throw some light here).
Throw light? Me? I don't have much information on Warranty Direct, other than the ads I'd seen on Autocar India mag and also WhatCar. Btw, I just paid their website a visit and it seems pretty unprofessional and shady. Is this the real 'WarrantyDirect' website? Unbelievable.

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  • we may have to consider private garage. I have heard Bosch has opened service centres across india. What I want to know is how Bosch manages the original spares.
lol Robin. no chance to escape. There a few threads on the Bosch service center experiences. Read them up when you got time, most are not very uncouraging..

Praying seems to be the only way....
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Malpractice is common with Skoda. But there are chances that they might take you for a ride unless you know technicalities about your car.
I too had faced minor problem where the advisor had billed for something that should have been taken under warranty. I was charged for solving the problem of low pick up which was taken car by cleaning of EGR valve and intake manifold. After speaking to the senior advisor and explaining him the terms and conditions of warranty he was convinced that it would be hard to take this customer for a ride, and the charges were waived and taken care under the warranty.
But not all dealers are that understanding and generous. Some are just adamant and would not listen to you. When i had a word with this Sr.Advisor I learnt that he had joined this dealership after leaving the job from another dealership which I wouldn't want to name. He said the dealers have to buy the part/inventory/stock from Skoda cash down as there is no credit faciltiy given by them. The dealer lacked the finances to arrange or buy the stock the in advance. Whenever they had a customer with the problems they would be out of stock and keep the customer stranded for weeks to comes. Latter in the end they would remove the part from another customers car and fit into the one of the stranded customer. This truth really shocked me but understood onething why they take days to get the part and than blame the manufacture for not providing one. After all this malpractice this Sr.advisor decided to leave the job and look elsewhere where another job came knocking on his door from another Skoda dealer. And eventually landed up joining here since he was given the stock details as to how much stock they holding and never have issues with part not available. This being one of the reasons for him joining for the job with again a Skoda dealer.
Anyways, I always make it point that he takes care of my car personally. All my service is done with atmost care. I guess being friendly and sitting with this guy for an hour so while the job is being done has helped. But, I would rather take a day off from work and get the work done under my supervision instead of facing any trouble of change of parts or so.
Onething is there it's not the people who work there to be blamed it's the owners responsibility to set the ethics of the business. If they are the one who are strict there won't be an issues. But some of the Dealers are just interested in making the money out easy way by making one customer in trouble happy and another happy customer in trouble and in both way making himself(dealer) happy.

Anyways, today I took a day off in getting my custom intake pipe. Spend more than half a day in getting the work done all by myself. Also, changed the downpipe and removed the cat converter. And the end result is just amazing. The fabi just flies now. With very strong midrange power. It just take off once it's past 1800 rpm. I could feel getting pushed in the seat when the turbo kicked in. Just Awesome! The intake kit is complete 3 inch in diameter right from the turbo to the filter. The 3" inch pipe has a twin turbines inside which helps in creating a vortex as the air is charges with greater velocity. I guess there has been a difference of 10% atleast to say. Feel the mileage has gone up to will put the detail review tomm. Will put a detailed review soon. And ya no black smoke at all, as it has a remap getting little black smoke was evident but now no more. The flow of exhaust gas is better after decat.
Here is the pick.. ya ya I know I have to get my engine bay washed its due for next week.
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k_ajay: Light at end of tunnel= oncoming train?

Ha ha...you just have to be a Spike Milligan fan!

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fi.robin: I'd love to know more about the Bosch Service Centres.


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Anyways, today I took a day off in getting my custom intake pipe. Spend more than half a day in getting the work done all by myself. Also, changed the downpipe and removed the cat converter. And the end result is just amazing. The fabi just flies now. With very strong midrange power. It just take off once it's past 1800 rpm. I could feel getting pushed in the seat when the turbo kicked in. Just Awesome!

Invinsible: Good job. Sounds like she'll run like a bat out of Hell. Thanks for the update and pics.
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When i had a word with this Sr.Advisor I learnt that he had joined this dealership after leaving the job from another dealership which I wouldn't want to name. He said the dealers have to buy the part/inventory/stock from Skoda cash down as there is no credit faciltiy given by them. The dealer lacked the finances to arrange or buy the stock the in advance. Whenever they had a customer with the problems they would be out of stock and keep the customer stranded for weeks to comes. Latter in the end they would remove the part from another customers car and fit into the one of the stranded customer. This truth really shocked me but understood onething why they take days to get the part and than blame the manufacture for not providing one.
That is something. God!

And how to gain technical knowledge? I would love to have some. I want to own a vintage some day, this will help .
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That is something. God!

And how to gain technical knowledge? I would love to have some. I want to own a vintage some day, this will help .
fi.robin: Vintage car? Breaks my heart just to hear that. I missed getting a single owner 1936 Triumph owned by this old lady family friend in Calcutta-absolutely FREE. I'd just rolled into the rossogolla city to visit my aunt, when I bumped into this lady who lived next door. The car-as was usual for over the 20 years she'd stopped driving it- was parked outside her balcony where she'd sip her tea and gaze upon it (it was a gift from her departed husband). When the topic of conversation turned to it...and I finally mustered the courage to ask her to sell it to me, she was simply aghast: she'd no clue I was interested in cars let alone an ancient heap. If only she'd an inkling, she would not have gifted it to an Army Major!

Anyway, she'd given him a deadline of the next day to collect it, failing which her offer would be rescinded. So, I waited, biting my nails and unable to sleep, hoping against hope he had to rush off to the border to fight an assortment of Chinese, Afghans and Eskimos...Sad to say he rolled up with 6 or 8 jawans and a big army truck and promptly ferried it off. THAT was real sorrow. Also made me realise 'nothing ventured, nothing gained'.

Nowadays I'm not bashful to ask for anything. You never know.
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Invinsible: Even with the stock TDI, I'm addicted to the turbo rush. With all those mods your Fabia has, it should be very quick to touch 100 KMPH mark. Is it possible to post that figure for us? PLEASE check it in safe environment.
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Smile tracked down a missing fabiosi

goshhhh..too much technical jargons and my brain is smoking up like anything coupled with the mad heat here. after reading all those technical explanations and stuffs, it seems like i've to join for automobile engineering before i can take my baby to the dealer for a checkup i've booked a slot for my car tomorrow morning.

you know what the SC guys did for topping up Shykrish's coolant?simple, take a mug of water and pour over the coolant. its as simple as that. after hearing that i started wondering if automobile engineering is that simple now, i guess if i say that my AC is bit down on cooling, the SC guys would put some ice cubes to the duct. ahhhaaa..i've already learned the basics of auto engg

meanwhile, i've tracked down the missing fabiosi, Rakesh Raja. No, he wasn't kidnapped, he wasn't taken down to Area 51 for saying "znortywzsdhtykopykat". got word from him that the forum got blocked in his office. he's ready for the meet and asked me to inform the time. so, shykrish, immortalz, lets decide on a time. let the venue be cafe coffee day how about 4th april after 3 pm? (all interested TVM TBHP guys are welcome)
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Finally ! some respite from work ! and im back on the road again (more like off the road) Had a good day off on thursday, driving to a place frequented earlier, to fly in this season (Gliding) the car performed as usual, like a Rally Champion, taking every turn up the 30-45 degree slope like the bite of an angry tiger, we did scare a few barking deer, which was sad, the passengers were a bit more scared than them, but when they realised i have done this with a Safari, Wagon R and Opel Astra before they were comfortable. All in all great fun, superb views, and a great car to drive. Enjoy the pictures.

Sorry for not being around the last 3 months or so, have been very busy, am trying to log in more often now..
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Invinsible: Even with the stock TDI, I'm addicted to the turbo rush. With all those mods your Fabia has, it should be very quick to touch 100 KMPH mark.
MadRash: I can vouch for the kick-in-the-rump when you floor that throttle. I know there are better diesels around, but the Fabia does it quite impressively IMO.

Invinsible- an obvious Schumacher- is one of our very own R&D labs. Glad to have him on board.

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meanwhile, i've tracked down the missing fabiosi, Rakesh Raja. ...

shykrish, immortalz, lets decide on a time. let the venue be cafe coffee day how about 4th april after 3 pm? (all interested TVM TBHP guys are welcome)
Mysticeyes: Hey, terrific you tracked down Monsieur Rakesh_Raja. My best to him. Have a Great TVM Fabiosi Meet!

"...goshhhh..too much technical jargons ..." You can say that again. I'm constantly blown away by the quantum of knowledge floating around our Fabia thread and even on Team-Bhp. Very impressive.

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Finally ! some respite from work ! and im back on the road again (more like off the road)

Enjoy the pictures.

Sorry for not being around the last 3 months or so, have been very busy, am trying to log in more often now..
naikpranav: That's a steep climb. Welcome back Sir and thanks for the pics.
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