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Old 19th March 2008, 09:56   #211
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where? I could not find it on the site.
Here's it for the Fiat:

Euro 5.

Here's for the Swift:

Emission BS-III.

http://www.team-bhp.com/forum/754681-post721.html

Hope that helps.
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Old 19th March 2008, 10:21   #212
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It says Euro 4

copied from site... "the 1.3 Multijet 16v already meets Euro 4 emission limits"
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It says Euro 4

copied from site... "the 1.3 Multijet 16v already meets Euro 4 emission limits"
Then they corrected it VERY recently. I am 100% sure they mentioned Euro 5.
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Then they corrected it VERY recently. I am 100% sure they mentioned Euro 5.
Moralfibre have you taken the TD of multijet ? if yes please share your views here.
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Euro 5 is a proposed legislation, and requires ULSD, which is not available in India.
If an engine+exhaust combo meets EU-5 norms filling in diesel with high sulfur content will damage the EGR and Cat-con.

What I think Fiat India means is that if this engine is coupled with the emission management systems for ULSD, it will meet EU-5 norms.
Even if the engine is capable of meeting EU-5 norms does not necessarily mean that the car is meeting EU-5 norms.
All indian diesels meet BS-III norms which are a modified form of EU legislation due to fact that ULSD is not available in India.
Bharat-IV norms are based on ULSD(I suspect) and will come in force in 2010, though the Delhi govt wants them by 2008, which would mean that Oil refineries will have to supply clean diesel now, which they are not capable of doing.
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Then they corrected it VERY recently. I am 100% sure they mentioned Euro 5.
checked the page with google cache taken on 16 march and it states EURO4
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checked the page with google cache taken on 16 march and it states EURO4
Check for 11Mar'08 when I made that post in the link mentioned above. It was Euro 5.
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Folks,

It has been more than a week since the Palio 1.3 launch. Though we have had some reviews, we need more of them to judge...ummm...lets say assess, the product. Can we have more BHPians posting the Palio MJD reviews please?

Thanks,
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rocky, there's already enough reviews for a man to drown in. What's needed now is an ownership report, pref somoene who takes it touring first day

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rocky, there's already enough reviews for a man to drown in. What's needed now is an ownership report, pref somoene who takes it touring first day
So what is your assesment of the situation? Would you drown in, if you were looking to buy a hatch at this point?
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My personal take is that its a smashing car (looks, current generation of styling etc is all in one's head) but the following issues are supreme:
a. Depreciation - silent killer (read ajmat's thread on the same)
b. Spares prices (found some really interesting numbers for the stile petrol)
c. A.S.S - that is truly dependent on the local dealer

I've almost bitten the bullet, except that with Delhi traffic and my 20km commute, I'll prefer the Pulsar anyday - and the company aint paying/giving cabs either

PS: One last thing which i just remembered courtesy brainscooper's post on aonther thread - getting in/out needed me to bend just a wee bit, and my back is a very pareshan baby in general. YMMV

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PS: One last thing which i just remembered courtesy brainscooper's post on aonther thread - getting in/out needed me to bend just a wee bit, and my back is a very pareshan baby in general. YMMV
You shouldn't be riding a bike full-time then.
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You shouldn't be riding a bike full-time then.
Completely agree. That is the version I heard from most people. And pulsar itself was a mega no no.

However, my back is ok and is none the worse for the daily 20km a side commute (often even 70+) and the occasional 200+km on a weekend.

Infinitely more comfortable than driving Alto/Xeta, and saves 1.5 hours minimum compared to any 4 wheeler in MB road/mahipalpur to airport.

Plus in pulsar, weight of body/jerks of road are taken by thighs, than in car. Doctor has also reluctantly agreed that things are improving albeit slowly and that biking isn't hurting

You also have some back issue, right bro?

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Completely agree. That is the version I heard from most people. And pulsar itself was a mega no no.

However, my back is ok and is none the worse for the daily 20km a side commute (often even 70+) and the occasional 200+km on a weekend.

Infinitely more comfortable than driving Alto/Xeta, and saves 1.5 hours minimum compared to any 4 wheeler in MB road/mahipalpur to airport.

Plus in pulsar, weight of body/jerks of road are taken by thighs, than in car. Doctor has also reluctantly agreed that things are improving albeit slowly and that biking isn't hurting

You also have some back issue, right bro?
OT: But i would suggest you stick to 4 wheels till ur back is completely healed, for future sake. Been there done that and my advise, It aint worth it.
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@Jaggu: Tried both extensively, ten days on each side, and maybe its just cause i'm a biker and love biking, but I have significantly less exertion than in a similar drive. Time saved is a separate story altogether. And yes, my back is taut while riding. No slouching unlike in car/office.

How has it been in your case?
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