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Old 11th November 2008, 09:32   #136
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If you've decided to go with the Palio, go for it. I haven't regretted it so far.

For your kind of running, you will be happy with the FE, which could be anything between 15 and 20 kpl depending on the conditions you face. Trust me, I face one of the worst and still get 15-16. And except for the heavy clutch, you will feel comfortable while driving this car than most other hatchbacks because of the nice seats, seating position and ergonomics.

Please try to get your services done at Samyak (Elegant Cars) as many people including those on TBHP have found them way better than Vivek Auto or any other.

I agree with you about the looks.

I have been driving on stock rubber so far and I feel this car needs better and wider rubber, especially on the highway. Despite that, its still quite stable even at 120-130 kph. And remember, wider tyres will reduce your FE!
Thanks Architect...
Your inputs have really helped me through out the past few months... I was looking for diesel hatch from past 2 months... but was really confused between Palio, Vista and CS... but your posts along with other Palio owners posts have really guided me well in taking my decision.
There are lot of talks on different threads, that current discounts on Palio are stock clearence kinds off, but even if its true, I am just not bothered i am going for it... i am going for the MJD SDX... will be getting the delivery by Friday.
To all of you on different threads who said that its a clearence sale... Hondas have clearence sale every 2 years for each of there models in India, then people in India should even stop buying a Honda, I dont know why majority of people have such negative aura for the Palios...
I have read a lot of threads... a lot owners regret there different buys, but know where have I seen a PALIO owner regretting his decision.
Once again thanks Mr. Architect.
Can we have forum.. something like save PALIO... i really do feel thats its nothing less then a Tiger on the road... a forum where we can help people know in and out of a Palio MJDs and the petrol versions as well.
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Can we have forum.. something like save PALIO... i really do feel thats its nothing less then a Tiger on the road... a forum where we can help people know in and out of a Palio MJDs and the petrol versions as well.
Its a known fact, there is always a hue and cry for FIATs!

There is already a dedicated forums for Palio, i.e Palio Users Group (PUG). You can join the group for specific information regarding the Palios!

Congrats on ur buy

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Smile Fiat Palio Stile MJD Review at 3300 kms

Checked the reading on the panel and realized that I had crossed 3k. Took me a good 6 months + to cross 3000 kms though. Thought i would share my feel of the car will everyone.

1. Performance - excellent. I thoroughly enjoy driving it whenever i can. I feel guilty that i cant drive more that 70 odd kms per week. This beauty needs to run around a lot more than what i give it. I have to give it a chance to open up.

2. Control - Good. The Palio has been designed to give good control. I recall an incident when i was at about 100+ kms on HSR Road. I had to brake suddenly when a car tried to take a U turn out of the blue. The Palio didd shake a little and then steady itself and stopped well short of the "enemy". I must confess, i had my heart in my mouth for a few seconds. The turning radius sucks. I feel the pain when i have to take a sharp U turn and the horns from all the other cars start hooting.

3. Mileage - Not sure. I need to seriously check the mileage. The first time i checked (about 1000 kms), i was under 13kms per litre. I have a feeling that it has gone up but i need to confirm the same. The manager at Greentracks said that mileage will go up only after 10,000 kms. Although i am sure i am way below the mileage quoted of 15+ in city and 21+ on highways.

4. After sales service - I did my first free service at Green tracks. I did not have any complaints and they did a good job of it.

5. Routine Problems - The battery drained when i left the inside lamp on. I did not take the car out for a week and when i came back to the car, it refused to start. I got the Exide Bat Mobile guys to check it and the gave a replacement while they recharged it and then replaced the replacement with the original.

6. Interiors - this was the part i used to dislike the most. But i am getting used to it. I rarely use the racks on the door. My mobile resides in the crevice next to the gear shift. The luggage space is great and it comes useful time and agaiin. The body is strong and steady and it feels good on rough roads.

7. Noise - The engine seems to be noiser that the Swift. But again i am getting used to it.

8. Issues - I noticed the following issues:
a. There seems to be an irritating sound from the back seat when there are 4 passengers in the car. It is either the springs of the seat or something wrong with the chassis or the woodden plank (of the music system speakers) tapping the glass of the hatch. This sound disappears when there are only 1 or 2 passengers. I wonder if anyone has had a similar problem. It can also be a problem with the seat belt holder in the rear seat.
b. There seems to be a grinding noise when the car is turning (from a stationary position). Wonder if it a problem with the differential. Do any of you guys have a similar issue?
c. The right indicator is not working. The bulb may have fused. This is not a serious problem but i wonder why it may have fused. I guess it wont cost much to replace it. It could have fused due to the battery issues mentioned above.
d. Clock - the clock seems to be losing time. It does not show correct time for more than 1 day. Are you guys facing the same problem?

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I went to Green Tracks on Hosur road to check on the 2nd service. I realized that i was a good 20 odd days late for the 2nd free service. The manager said that it would be a paid service. He will try to get a refund and would reimburse the money if he managed it. i wanted to check with everyone if there is no grace period for the same. The reason i was late was that i was out of town for a couple of week and additionally i have completed only 3000 kms as against the 7500 kms requried (i compelted the 6 months though). Any inputs into this will be helpful.

Will this also void my warranty and extended warranty?

Also the cost of the 2nd service will come up to around 2500 odd rupees.
Engine oil (3.1 ltrs) = 900 odd, about 500 for other consumables. In addition i will have to shell out 750 ruipees for the service (since i missed the 6 month cut off date). It should total to less than 3000 odd rupees including labout. Is this the normal cost that everyone had to shell out?

How do i get access to PUG (Palio User Group)?
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I thought this thread had gone underground long ago..

Most of my experiences are similar. I have done 15,500 kms in 9 months of usage. Have done four outstation trips too (trips beyond 250 kms). The last one was Delhi-Khajuraho with 650 kms in a day on a variety of surfaces from Expressways to "No Roads". Car has taken it all without any signs of problems.

Performance: Enough said, the Multijet is probably the most discussed engine on TBHP. Palio MJD seems to be somewhere in between the Vista and Swift D in terms of driveability and linear power delivery.

I have spent a huge chunk of my driving time by simply moving along at idle in the appropriate gear. The torque is addictive. Have touched 140 kph on a couple of occassions.

Ride and Handling: I have been pushed off the road at triple digit speeds by rogue buses on my way to Khajuraho. The car was in control, the suspension absorbed it all. You can go as fast as a small car can on bad roads, though not as fast as an SUV. Ride and Handling are evenly balanced.

Car needs wider tyres to enhance the experience of such a powerful car.

NVH: Okay, not as bad as the Indica. Could have been better, like the Swift. Nothing that the ICE can't fix.

Fuel Efficiency: Till my "interim" service at 11,000 kms, I was getting anything between 14.5 and 16 kpl within the city. After 11,000 kms, my FE has gone up to anything between 17 kpl and 19 kpl within the city. These figures are on normal HP diesel with the RPM needle consciously kept below 2000 RPM most of the time. In mad South Delhi traffic, this is good enough for me, as even our Alto doesn't give more than 13-14 kpl.

Issues:
1.Boot hatch lock replaced under waranty as it was rattling.
2. Rubber beading of the boot hatch sqeaks in the most irritating manner. Shiner / Vaseline solve the problem for just 3-4 days at a time. Then it comes back.
3. Indicator stalk squeaks as you turn the wheel when the indicators are on.
4. The driving seat springs squeak when you shift positions.

There are "squeaks", but no rattles.

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Bad PDI and Service Experience from Vivek Automobiles. Shifted to Elegant Cars (Samyak Motors) and have had a good experience ever since. Car is now overdue for third and last free service at 15,000 kms. Since I had an interim Service at 11,000 kms (paid), I can prolong it a bit.

Mods, could you change the title to "15000 kms" or something to that effect.

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Old 7th January 2009, 16:38   #140
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How do i get access to PUG (Palio User Group)?
Put in a request on PalioUsersIndia Yahoo group. Moderators will confirm your membership within a few days.
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OT: Is there a swift user group too ?
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OT: Is there a swift user group too ?
There is atleast one Yahoo group for Swift. Lots of communities on Orkut.

BTW, enough people on TBHP to form "TBHP Swift Users group", "TBHP Peted (present + Wannabe) Swift Users Group", "Swift VDi group" and many such groups on Yahoo!
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Hey Architect,

Welcome back, seems you had a wonderful drive.

So pics will do more justice.

Last but not the least and as always Palio always gives good performance over and above every other thing.

Even i am planning a days trip to Dehradun sometime next week, that will be for the first time that i would be taking my MJD on for a long drive.

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Its been slightly more than 3months and with 5400 odd kms on the oddo.

I just love the car. I have pushed it to a maximum of 145 kmph thought it could possibly do more and was pretty stable ,insane road noise though.
Yes engine noise is definitely on the higher side but once you close the doors its fine. Getting roughly 14.5 to 15+ keeps varying . However this is a 60 % city and 40 highways and I really accelerate hard even in the city sometimes even 3000 rpm in 2nd .
Really dissapointed with the interior build quality . So many rattles especially from teh central A/C console.

Noticed the difference in ride when I drove a friends swift the other day (No offense to anyone ) on bad roads you really feel the car's taking a pounding.

I have been having a peculiar problem. When I rev the engine beyond 2500 rpm in 4th and 5th the car refuses to accelerate and stays rooted at the same speed & rpm even though I keep giving it gas. Holds Like this for a few seconds and then frees up and accelerates normally again. then happens again just below 3000. In 5th it happens sooner around the 2300 mark and holds for a really long time.
Have scheduled an appointment with my service stations. Hope nothing serious.
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Really dissapointed with the interior build quality . So many rattles especially from teh central A/C console.
Check your ICE Head Unit. That could be the culprit rather than AC console. And the HU rattles only at specific RPMs (1000-1400) in my case. Some resonance happenning I suppose.

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I have been having a peculiar problem. When I rev the engine beyond 2500 rpm in 4th and 5th the car refuses to accelerate and stays rooted at the same speed & rpm even though I keep giving it gas. Holds Like this for a few seconds and then frees up and accelerates normally again. then happens again just below 3000. In 5th it happens sooner around the 2300 mark and holds for a really long time.
This has happenned to me only twice as far as I can recollect. And it lasted for just about 1-2 seconds, not more. I agree the situation is difficult to simulate in city driving often, especially on 5th gear. Even today I went to Neemrana and performed many overtaking manoeuvres in the 2000-2500 RPM range on 5th gear. (80-100 kph). Did not notice anything. And I just had a 1300 km Delhi-Khajuraho-Orchha-Delhi trip during Christmas. Must have accelarated from 1800-2500 RPM many times in 5th gear. Apart from the normal turbo lag, everything was fine.

That said, remember the 5th is an overdrive and therefore it would not carry the "punch" of the lower gears.
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I have to say your intial & follow on write ups sorta convinced me to buy this beast.

Unfortunately I dont have a sound system yet so its some loose part in the AC vents or knobs.

I cant figure out what this is...because the engine revs like a beaut in 3rd all the way to 3000. Only in 4th & 5th this problems happening. Highway drive in 5th the Engine simply didnt pull beyond 2400 it just stayed rooted. So I let it go and came down to 2000 didnt want to cause any unwanted damage to the engine.
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I cant figure out what this is...because the engine revs like a beaut in 3rd all the way to 3000. Only in 4th & 5th this problems happening. Highway drive in 5th the Engine simply didnt pull beyond 2400 it just stayed rooted. So I let it go and came down to 2000 didnt want to cause any unwanted damage to the engine.
Just yesterday I have done 130 kph, that's about 3000 RPM on 5th, but I was accelerating gradually. All I can say is that it pulls till 2500 RPM on 5th gear (100 kph) quite cleanly. (As a rule, I go beyond 100 kph only if I have full visibility, a barricaded divider and no other vehicles like two-wheelers, trucks, tractors etc to do any monkey business. Therefore, 80-120 kph acceleration is rare for me. Typically it is 80-100, then 100-120 later when the road permits.)

My suggestions (disclaimer: most of my suggestions are based on my very limited knowledge of these things.)

1. Get your Air filter cleaned, as a dirty air filter reduces the performance of the turbocharger, as well as affect FE. This could be the reason you are facing "extra large turbo lag".

2. Try re-setting the ECU. Disconnect the battery overnight. After re-connection, drive around town normally but use the turbo, all the way till 3000-3500 RPM. Maybe that will help re-set the ECU for your kind of driving.

3. Go to your ASC, and I hope to God that (a) They are a good ASC, which is rare in Tata-Fiat and (b) They know this engine well.

4. Ask around if any other owners have the same problem

5. When I faced this problem once or twice, it was at around 5000-10000 kms of total mileage. Maybe it will go on it's own.

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Unfortunately I dont have a sound system yet so its some loose part in the AC vents or knobs. .
Regarding your rattles, just get the dashboard panel and AC panel tightened . If that doesn't work get it opened and refitted. Make sure it is the "Rattles Specialist" body shop guy from the ASC who does it and not the regular mechanic.

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I have to say your intial & follow on write ups sorta convinced me to buy this beast.
I sincerely hope neither of us have to regret our decision. cheers:

Mods can we please change the Thread Title to 16,000 kms? It's high time!

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Mods can we please change the Thread Title to 16,000 kms? It's high time!
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Hi

I am eagerly awaiting to get my Multijet. I just got a call from Prerana motors that my car has arrived and i can pick it up on Monday. (Atleast the dealership got the date correct)
Prerana has a few issues with the sales guys promising the world and falling back on promises. Please let me know if any of you have had issues with these dealer.
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Just yesterday I have done 130 kph, that's about 3000 RPM on 5th, but I was accelerating gradually. All I can say is that it pulls till 2500 RPM on 5th gear (100 kph) quite cleanly. (As a rule, I go beyond 100 kph only if I have full visibility, a barricaded divider and no other vehicles like two-wheelers, trucks, tractors etc to do any monkey business. Therefore, 80-120 kph acceleration is rare for me. Typically it is 80-100, then 100-120 later when the road permits.)

My suggestions (disclaimer: most of my suggestions are based on my very limited knowledge of these things.)

1. Get your Air filter cleaned, as a dirty air filter reduces the performance of the turbocharger, as well as affect FE. This could be the reason you are facing "extra large turbo lag".

2. Try re-setting the ECU. Disconnect the battery overnight. After re-connection, drive around town normally but use the turbo, all the way till 3000-3500 RPM. Maybe that will help re-set the ECU for your kind of driving.

3. Go to your ASC, and I hope to God that (a) They are a good ASC, which is rare in Tata-Fiat and (b) They know this engine well.

4. Ask around if any other owners have the same problem

5. When I faced this problem once or twice, it was at around 5000-10000 kms of total mileage. Maybe it will go on it's own.
I have also faced the same issue in 5th gear. The car refused to accelerate. It is rare but i have faced it around 10-15 times in last 9 months. To avoid it i move down from 5th gear to 4rth and then again step up. May be due to air filter but last time i couldn't get it changed due to it's non-availability at Elegant Cars. I am now waiting for the fourth service.
Also i have experience jerky motion of the car with AC on in hot summers. Don't know if anyone else has experienced the same.
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