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Old 5th May 2008, 16:22   #61
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Talking life at 220kmph!! - quick way to heaven!!!

Was supposed to meet you in the cochin meet but i had to scoot yesterday to coimbatore( i never miss a chance to go at 220kmph!!) hence couldnt come for the meet. i went for the meet on Saturday.

dude i am doing this for the second time actually

first one was around three months ago!! that time i just touched 220kmph and let off the pedal ..haha .

this time around i stayed at 220kmph for some 5-10 secs. i have heard of the 190kmph from the guys in MGF - allepy- chertala road right..hehe[dude they did it in non-ABS verna- that one feels scary at high speeds, the brakes and suspension are scary at that speeds in that verna]

well my verna is stock!! and dude if you are a techie i hope you know what that VGT unit does..
it gives you optimum turbo according to your speed , but hyundai has tuned it for upper end, meaning at 200kmph[ technically at higher RPMs] turbo would be at its max. more than a normal FGT so the thing is the turbo is not fixed its variable that is at higher speeds RPMs in each gear, you get higher input pressure from turbo. thats why when you stay at 200kmph with the pedal floored it gradually in around 10secs time goes to 220kmph[coz obviously you are still getting a boost from the turbo]. it is dam exciting, but yes be carefull with the steering at such sppeds the steering is having maximum assistance.

the input we give i.e. left or right will be so magnified that if we do a turn as we do in 100kmph, the car will go off the track!! be very light, i just fethear turned the wheel to shift lanes at 160kmph+

and dude 200kmph is no big deal on a verna. its the technology the more speed you attain more boost comes to the engine which again increases speed. the principle is simple. now i know why my dad doesnt let me have this baby. but now its with me in cbe, and i am enjoin it!!.

the cars which have FGT will struglle at higher[insane speeds] coz of only fixed turbo input from a fixed RPM ..

dude petes tuning box will give you more low-end torque so city driving will be more exciting and better and top end comes in picture like when you are going at insane speeds like me... a few seconds can be shaved off but hey i aint distatisfied with my stock setup. why ask for trouble mann.
and in anyways it aint gonna go more than 220kmph speedo read right..haha..do try to max out the car after first service- [ i meant the 10k kms service ] my car is due for the 20k kms service 1k kms left more for that.

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Old 5th May 2008, 16:30   #62
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well Safari injection system is delphi system which is not as calibratable as a bosch system the resolution of the signals in the Delphi -ecu is less and hence we cant calibrate it more accurately and yes the Reputaion of the PSI - will be in the balance if the unit causes trouble, so they are playing it safe. no box .

and about my mileage the lowest i have got with this kind of insane driving is 16kmpl in highway- inside city it has gone to 13kmpl all with 100%ac - max-ac settting, blower speed is 2 and when it becomes chilled, we switch ot to 1.

and for the record my verna is not peted.
its not rquired unless you are full time in city!! and yes anything that increases the cars power is a no-no from my dad!!
reason is very simple , dad knows car will go well past 100kmph, but he will brake as soon as speedo goes above 100kmph, whereas i dont do that- i brake only when the road ends..haha.

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Old 5th May 2008, 18:03   #63
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and for the record my verna is not peted.
its not rquired unless you are full time in city!! and yes anything that increases the cars power is a no-no from my dad!!
reason is very simple , dad knows car will go well past 100kmph, but he will brake as soon as speedo goes above 100kmph, whereas i dont do that- i brake only when the road ends..haha.

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Old 5th May 2008, 18:30   #64
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yup he is not a member, not interested in this stuff..lucky for me..hihi.

its kinda cruel man i am funding the CAR out of my own pocket but , he intervenes and says that he has got only two sons... :( .. cant argue with him either. ..lolz...

but he is very impressed with the shell type bumpers in verna , its very economical to repair them. and yes he is upset with the lighting , the accent head lights are awesome.

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Thanks Sameel for your updates and clarification.

You have only made my life more difficult by confirming about Safari engine's issues with Petes. I am as it is torn between Safari (for 4*4, image, power, torque, ground clearance, rear AC,electrical ORVMS, ABS, Airbags and Height adjustable Lumbar Support seats) and Scorpio for VLX features- cruise control, better efficiency and resale value and most important- last row seat comfort and price) and not able to decide till date and now you have added Petes in this dilemma.

Anyway, an informed decision is always good, but now I sincerely feel that in certain matters - ignorance is bliss!
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Thanks Sameel for your updates and clarification.

You have only made my life more difficult by confirming about Safari engine's issues with Petes. I am as it is torn between Safari (for 4*4, image, power, torque, ground clearance, rear AC,electrical ORVMS, ABS, Airbags and Height adjustable Lumbar Support seats) and Scorpio for VLX features- cruise control, better efficiency and resale value and most important- last row seat comfort and price) and not able to decide till date and now you have added Petes in this dilemma.

Anyway, an informed decision is always good, but now I sincerely feel that in certain matters - ignorance is bliss!

IMHO you can make an easy decision because there is no Pete's box for Safari or Scorpio.
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oh boy!! me myself taken my friend's verna to 200 kmph mark, i think it can go beyond that but had to brake down due to traffic ahead and elantra with same torque 205 kmph mark couldnt go beyond that n i drove it for 40-50 seconds. Mind ya guys, Elantra is 2XX kg heavier than verna.

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Old 6th May 2008, 08:52   #68
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dude its not just about petes box. its about trouble free reliabilty and resale value. the Mhawk engine and the Diesel pump will be trouble free for min 6 years!!! dont expect the engine to give you trouble for min 4-5 lakh kms !!.

technology wise both Safari and Mhawk have VGT and all the bells!! , and yes safari makes 140ps!! compared to scorpio 120ps, but the engine will last longer if you know what i mean!! it all depends on your budget!! go for Scorpio only if you want a better overall vehicle, safari is a Bull - prestige and show and all stuff while scorpio is more practical and hence lot of Taxi scorpios are there.

and about the petes box well if you have another 40-50k to spare then go for it city driving will be a breeze...you can go all day in third gear!! the mileage will definitely increase and yes no need to worry on the engine life!! it is well within the tolerance range!!.. i have a concern for interior space though my cousin has a safri, its so spacious inside,
please look at what you want more,... and keep in mind that any vehicle will start giving problems if you use it too much and not do regular maintanance!!

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Old 6th May 2008, 09:07   #69
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buddy its not just the weight the tyres also makes a difference!! and the main thing is VGT it gives more and more power as you build up the RPM in any gear,
and i do know guys with peted elantra doing a 220kmph!! but those who had put the 205 section tyre find it very difficult to move ahead after 200kmph. the peted verna will definitely go above 220kmph!!. but hey i happy and thankfull that i am still alive!! after doing a 220kmph, all you need is 10 secs roughly after 200kmph to hit 220kmph in verna. if luckyly you get an inclination then it will be reaching 220kmph before 10secs, i did get an inclination while i was at 180-190kmph, the speedo shoot down to 210 while coveing the inclination , i had to break after that.the toll booth fellows thought that i will crash through the toll . but the brakes slwed me down like anything they were all smiling at me and warned me that in the next section of the bypass Speed Patrol is there ..so i ws a good boy..lolz.
But frankly speaking the speed impressed me a hell lot!! but the braking blew me away its too good.

my old car takes more time to come to a halt form 140kmph compared to the verna from 220kmph!! its so freaking scary the sealt belt held me from going and hitting the steering while i braked!! . luckly i was not hurt!!.


this stuff is real dangerous i was just testing thats all. i usually remain between 140-180kmph in the Bypass its much more safe..lol.

and in kerala its anywhere between 60-140kmph depending on the condition and also on who else is with me in the car..haha.

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@sameel..did you try to do the same in getz crdi??
Did you upgrade to verna headlights??
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Talking no car is perfect!!

i dont think the getz will be able to do 220kmph..coz of shorter gearing for city drivability.. but dude dont even think of anything above 140kmph without ABS.. you will be asking for trouble
and the headlights..nope not changed...still stock..reason MGF hyundai personel said that the reflectors WILL BE BURNED if we try more powerfull lights. and there are powerless solutions lik HID and XENON , but these involve wiring mods , which will void warranty and trust me when i say this Verna is very Costly!! for maintanence of Electrical n engine stuff..all the stuff is from Bosch ..i had to pay rs4000 for filter change in first service[ the actual 10k kms one!!]!! only Labour is free the Filter is 4k rs costly. i didnt want to ruin ma car so have got everything stock on it!! .
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power comes at a cost, and yes verna is not perfect the headlights are a weak point!! , so is the battery thats coz its EXIDE as standard OEM its 75A battery the thing comes 8k rs for EXIDE. 8-10k for better Batteries!!

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Sameel
AFAIK Getz has the same gear ratios as Verna..
Are u sure of getz having shorter gearing?
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IMHO you can make an easy decision because there is no Pete's box for Safari or Scorpio.
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but the scorpio has been pete'd! see this thread for details!'

http://www.team-bhp.com/forum/modifi...hese-cars.html
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i was told like that from MGF will confirm it and let ya guys know .

and hey the Magnum is having a design flaw. it was kind of discussd here in the forum too, dont know of the thread,

and this design flaw is a pretty dam serious issue dont even think of lowering the magnum !!!! you will be asking for trouble ,
my friend has the Box in his car , i have warned him of the same, and yes its pretty needed for city drving that car is dead till 2000rpm!! petes box can definitely improve the city driving a lot!!
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What is going on here guys? I see a Scorp, a Getz and even a Magnum in discussion here. And this is a Verna ownership thread.

Please get back on course. The subject is Verna CRDi. Henceforth we will immediately remove any OT posts here.
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