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Old 18th March 2009, 20:23   #106
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But you were telling me that even the rotors need to be changed if i plan to fit EBC green pads?
I dont think aftermarket rotors are available for Getz.
And what is tightening rear brakes?
Atleast go for the pads to improve braking .. Changing rotors will be costly . I think its available for Getz . I dont know the cost of it.
I dont know how to explain technically the tightening of rear brakes , but both my friend and the dealer who sold me the brake pads , told me to tighten the cable or something for the rear brakes.
And dude , the 100/90 bulbs are slightly spoiling the head lamps . There is slight fog formed inside the lamps due to excess heat i think. So thinking of installing the 60/55 itself and retain the 100W in the Hella . Since Hella has Glass lenses , there is no problem fitting 100W .
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Yeah i have felt the brakes not responding and also jumping over humps too. I found out why though. The turbo input is always there and hence the car keeps pulling away. Hey i think i posted this somewhere. When the brakes dont respond de-clutch and slam the brakes they give an immediate response but also scare you (gives you the feeling the car would fall over) Please remember to de-clutch it helps in heavy breaking. And about the tightening of the rear brakes - it is a super thing to do because it reduces the front dip, but the rear brakes are drum brakes and the pads wear out quickly. I read somewhere that we can install disc brake even for the rear brake. Heres what i would do, install EBC rotors for both the rear and front along with brake pads (without ABS). And then tighten the front struts/dampers.

@UNDEAD - how is the brake after the EBC upgrade?

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Yeah i have felt the brakes not responding and also jumping over humps too. I found out why though. The turbo input is always there and hence the car keeps pulling away. Hey i think i posted this somewhere. When the brakes dont respond de-clutch and slam the brakes they give an immediate response but also scare you (gives you the feeling the car would fall over) Please remember to de-clutch it helps in heavy breaking. And about the tightening of the rear brakes - it is a super thing to do because it reduces the front dip, but the rear brakes are drum brakes and the pads wear out quickly. I read somewhere that we can install disc brake even for the rear brake. Heres what i would do, install EBC rotors for both the rear and front along with brake pads (without ABS). And then tighten the front struts/dampers.

@UNDEAD - how is the brake after the EBC upgrade?

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I dont think rear discs are a good idea particularly when there is no EBD.. And you cannot fit aftermarket ABS system. My brake pads are Stock replacement pads only. They give good bite at lower speeds. At higher speeds , i believe only in Engine Braking. Go for Green Pads alone . Change the rotors after the Stock rotors are due for replacement.
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Why do we need the EBD since the whole thing is hydraulic it anyway gets distributed evenly right. And i dont think the rotors ever need to be replaced unless they are damaged right.
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Why do we need the EBD since the whole thing is hydraulic it anyway gets distributed evenly right. And i dont think the rotors ever need to be replaced unless they are damaged right.
Since EBC Green are ceramic pads , they say that the rotors are getting damaged..
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Since EBC Green are ceramic pads , they say that the rotors are getting damaged..
any idea as to what the price of the EBC rotors would be.
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Atleast go for the pads to improve braking .. Changing rotors will be costly . I think its available for Getz . I dont know the cost of it.
I will think over it. I dont think rotors are availble for Getz model sold in india.

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Yeah i have felt the brakes not responding and also jumping over humps too. I found out why though. The turbo input is always there and hence the car keeps pulling away. I read somewhere that we can install disc brake even for the rear brake. Heres what i would do, install EBC rotors for both the rear and front along with brake pads (without ABS). And then tighten the front struts/dampers.
Exactly i was trying to explain the same. Even some times when you press the clutch and slam the brakes, there is no reaction. I am not understanding this problem. You are right about the turbo as it keeps pulling when we are aplying brakes. Still we should try to use engine braking since this will work even in wet and dry conditions.

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Why do we need the EBD since the whole thing is hydraulic it anyway gets distributed evenly right. And i dont think the rotors ever need to be replaced unless they are damaged right.
EBD is very much required when you have all 4 discs.
For a front mounted engine, around70% braking power is required on front wheels (because of heavy engine) and 30% is required on rear wheels.
If you put all discs then the power applied will be almost equal on all wheels (depends on size of disc and pads) which is not correct. The vehicle will tend to go out of line. EBD corrects this by applying required amount of force on individual wheels.

How to tighten the rear brakes?
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@djay - You can go to any mechanic even a local one. They will remove the wheels and then open up the brake drums and tighten up the shoe springs. This will tighten up the rear brakes. Dont allow anyone to touch the brake cable.

And i thought if you have higher braking power at the rear it is better as the car would not dip much. Is that not the case on bikes - i mean rear brakes are the main things right.
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I will try visiting hyundai service centre and ask them to do so.

The weight of engine in bike is less and also its not completely front mounted. But the new bikes have more powerful disc brakes on front wheels and drums on rear.
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I will try visiting hyundai service centre and ask them to do so.

The weight of engine in bike is less and also its not completely front mounted. But the new bikes have more powerful disc brakes on front wheels and drums on rear.
Actually , today i was supposed to go and tighten the rear brakes. But my dad took my car for office work . I will do this week and tell u the results.
If you guys are ready to buy rotors for Getz , i will ask the dealer about them.
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I am ready to buy rotors.
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Actually , today i was supposed to go and tighten the rear brakes. But my dad took my car for office work . I will do this week and tell u the results.
If you guys are ready to buy rotors for Getz , i will ask the dealer about them.
I ready too if it is not too pricy .
If we have better braking efficiency at the rear what would happen?
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I ready too if it is not too pricy .
If we have better braking efficiency at the rear what would happen?
I called up the dealer and asked about it . He says , rotors are available for Getz . But not sure whether the stock is available.. He says IF we need it , he will get a source and import them .The price will be given by tomorrow..
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guys good to hear about your planning to better up your brakes which is definate for crdi monster,but even by doin so after getting rotor and pads for fronts, what abt its rear drums then??and by doing for fronts is enough or for rears too it needs to change??
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I called up the dealer and asked about it . He says , rotors are available for Getz . But not sure whether the stock is available.. He says IF we need it , he will get a source and import them .The price will be given by tomorrow..
hope it is not too pricey. What to do about the rear brakes?
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