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Old 5th June 2008, 16:50   #1
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Safari 2.2 / Scorpio mHWK problems??
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Read lot about the comparisons of both of these so called SUVs. I am getting confused.
I have some questions to owners / users of Safari 2.2 and Scorpio mHWK.

1. What are the problems you are facing?
2. How many times the vehicle visited workshop?
3. Expenditure per year (spares / service cost)?
4. Service quality?
5. Do you still have the same exitement as the day you booked it?
6. Any breakdowns?
7. Any known issues?

Thank you very much.
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Biju, this thread should help
http://www.team-bhp.com/forum/indian...ttle-2-2s.html (Safari VTT or Scorpio Hawk- battle of the 2.2s)

My 2.2L experience.

1) Turning radius
2) Two, first service and oil change at 7.5k
3) 2.5K for oil and bulb.
4) Ok, they call you up from Pune to ask about it and dealer fears them which is good.
5) Oh yes!
6) No.
7) Resale value?
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Mods,
I posted this in a different thread yesterday, but no responses till now. Will you post this as a seperate theread?

Safari 2.2 / Scorpio mHWK problems??
All,
Read lot about the comparisons of both of these so called SUVs. I am getting confused.
I have some questions to owners / users of Safari 2.2 and Scorpio mHWK.

1. What are the problems you are facing?
Loose drivers seat @ 3000kms.
Steering wheel started pealing @ 2500kms
No other problems


2. How many times the vehicle visited workshop?
Twice once to bleed air off clutch @ 750kms and then for subsequent 1st service where the clutch & pressure plate were replaced under warranty. Ive had no problems since.

3. Expenditure per year (spares / service cost)?
Nil yet - everything except oil consumables is covered under warranty & extended warranty till 4 yrs.

4. Service quality?
Im satisfied yet. Safari customers seem to be well attended to.

5. Do you still have the same exitement as the day you booked it?
Yes i do. Regardless of the quality issues that some pple including me have faced, the safari ownership experience is different from other suv's.

6. Any breakdowns?
None yet.

7. Any known issues?
The quality of parts used in the interiors is not upto my personal satisfaction. But since there arent any major issues with the issues with the interiors, i shall say its a trade off.

Thank you very much.
Biju
In addition to your queries I shall add that if you intend to personally drive the vehicle in the city then the huge turning radius is quite a pain. If you are chauffered then its ok. Otherwise if your use is mostly city and less highways then the scorpio is your best bet, compact, driveable & sporty.

If ur buying the safari, Buy the ex version for its dual ac. Trust me, the ac in the lx is pathetic at the back seat during a hot summer day. I advise not to buy an lx and then try to retrofit the roof ac since IMO whatever comes as factory fit from TML cannot be replicated at the dealer workshops are not equally competent.

The safari is much more stable that a scorpio while cornering and even at high speeds. This is vouched for by any scorpio driver.

Personal comfort from all angles is unmatched in the safari.
Although people say that safari suspension parts are expensive, they actually are almost on par with the scorpio parts, but what one fails to realise that the safari has one of the best unmatched suspension compared to anyother suv in the same price range sold in this country. Longevity depends upon use.

If it matters to you then the safari apparently conforms to european crash test standards. Im not sure about the scorpio. Anyways it doesnt mean much to me.

Goodluck.
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Safari 2.2 / Scorpio mHWK problems??
All,
Read lot about the comparisons of both of these so called SUVs. I am getting confused.
I have some questions to owners / users of Safari 2.2 and Scorpio mHWK.

1. What are the problems you are facing?
2. How many times the vehicle visited workshop?
3. Expenditure per year (spares / service cost)?
4. Service quality?
5. Do you still have the same exitement as the day you booked it?
6. Any breakdowns?
7. Any known issues?

Thank you very much.
Biju
hey biju, my mHawk is too new to comment on above mentioned questions. but i'll surely update you with all possible information.

ok, 1 issue i am facing is the vibration of the gear lever, only in the 3rd gear. have to get it checked in the 1st service. no other issues till now.
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Ok biju, I know what you're getting at. You will probably buy the one which is less painful to own, knowing as everyone does on this forum that both vehicles have some issue or the other.

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Loose drivers seat @ 3000kms.
Steering wheel started pealing @ 2500kms
Woa, man! Hope you got them corrected sooner than later. Wait a minute! You mean the skin on the steering wheel started peeling off. For a moment there, you had me scared.

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...1 issue i am facing is the vibration of the gear lever...
Correct me if I'm wrong, but aren't diesel vehicles supposed to have rather heavily vibrating gearsticks?
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Ok biju, I know what you're getting at. You will probably buy the one which is less painful to own, knowing as everyone does on this forum that both vehicles have some issue or the other.


Woa, man! Hope you got them corrected sooner than later. Wait a minute! You mean the skin on the steering wheel started peeling off. For a moment there, you had me scared.

Yes u got me right buddy.. got a steering cover now.. wonder what else im gonna have to cover!!

Correct me if I'm wrong, but aren't diesel vehicles supposed to have rather heavily vibrating gearsticks?
Uve just been corrected - UR WRONG!
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1. What are the problems you are facing?

None,

I was already aware of the turning radius, I tested a U-turn before I bought.

2. How many times the vehicle visited workshop?

- First Service - Whole day
- Recall for Damper Pulley assembly change - 4-6 hrs
- To tighten some nut bolts etc - 5-10 min

3. Expenditure per year (spares / service cost)?

Less than 100Rs for Oil topup during first service

4. Service quality?

As long as you can define the service points properly and clearly, they provide good service.

5. Do you still have the same exitement as the day you booked it?

Cannot say same but considerable, yes.

6. Any breakdowns?

None

7. Any known issues?

People stare a lot.

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Mods,
I posted this in a different thread yesterday, but no responses till now. Will you post this as a seperate theread?

Safari 2.2 / Scorpio mHWK problems??
All,
Read lot about the comparisons of both of these so called SUVs. I am getting confused.
I have some questions to owners / users of Safari 2.2 and Scorpio mHWK.
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Woa, man! Hope you got them corrected sooner than later. Wait a minute! You mean the skin on the steering wheel started peeling off. For a moment there, you had me scared.


Correct me if I'm wrong, but aren't diesel vehicles supposed to have rather heavily vibrating gearsticks?
well, not really. the gear lever in the mHawk does not vibrate that much. this is due to some defect as its only in 3rd gear. also, nothing of such sorts was noticed when i test drove the car and also in my friend's VLX.

steering peeling off, i am hearing this for the 1st time.
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Since the thread already exists, there really isn't a point in having a fresh discussion on the same.

Thread closed. Please refer to the link in post no.2.
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