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Old 5th June 2009, 15:27   #151
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Vahanpujari,

Good that you fixed it yourself only. Less the car is taken to service centres the better it is. Fevibond is good, have tried it, is it better than Fevi quik?
Seems there is a problem with these chrome beading adhesives used on doors and quarter glasses.
The chrome strips on bumpers which cost 5500 a set are attached with 2-3 clips per piece and each clip itself costs Rs 250. So bumper strips are secure until someone bangs from behind and breaks them as in the case of my friend's Linea

I think i have already read somewhere about someone else chrome strip near windows too coming out and he got it fixed at serv centre.
The chrome beadings are damn expensive and hope they just dont fly off and fall someday when am happily doing 120-130 on highways and then get shock when i park the car.
Am still surprised how can just a hit at them while waxing make them fall off.
Is the adhesive geting weak in sun?
Regarding car conditions at delivery, everything in my case was squeaky clean and tyres were also given a spray shiner. Inside was polished again and the upholstery was all clean.
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There is a rubber strip underneath the chrome strip & if we apply Fevi Quik on rubber it leaves a plasticky layer & will not stick permanently, hence rubber adhesive like fevi bond.

I've also seen chrome strip fittings on front bumpers with those clips & was expecting some similar clips uncer this quarter class chrome strip also. What I guess is, they've put in a rubber strip sticked to the chrome strip underneath & that rubber stip is then fixed into the rubber housing with help of small rubber clips.
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Phew!!
So thats the reason behind using fevi bond. All right understood.
Seems this chrome strip bussiness is too difficult, we would have been better off without it. My friend went to get his chrome strip on bumper replaced and the workshop was pulling out the strip like anything , then an intelligent man came and he opened the strips with the help of thos clips (maybe fiat trained mechanic). A small shunt on the bumper by an i10 costed him Rs2000 for strip and 500 for clips so Rs. 2500, expensive affair. Are the chrome strips covered under insurance?
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Are the chrome strips covered under insurance?
Yes, they are covered. Am not sure is 50% like bumper or fully covered
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there are lots of scratches visible now on my car
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Yeah my car has a few annoying scratches now (caused by my own self)
Are the chamois cloths good at drying? How much are they?
Are they similar to these?
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Have you purchased a microfibre towel (I donno what it is for though)?
Also i want to know which cloths are u using for wax application and removal.

have to put all these in car care thread too.
I use the towel available from 3M for washing and wiping and the cotton waste which i get from petrolbunk for waxing.

There are 2 types of towel availble at 3M. One for 350 rs and other for 99 rs. This Rs.99 towel is the most useful thing. It has small bristles which traps dust like anything and takes it off without scratching the surface and it is good for washing with water too

here are the pics of it

Fiat Linea 1.4 FIRE Emotion Pack (Petrol) - My Dates with the RED Beauty !!!-p6040202.jpg
Fiat Linea 1.4 FIRE Emotion Pack (Petrol) - My Dates with the RED Beauty !!!-p6040201.jpg

I have got the rs.350 towel to which i use post waxing to give excellent shine. Will post the picture of it tomorrow
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Hey Ashwin

Where are these 3M cloths available? Are they microfibre cloths? At Big Bazaar, I saw some microfibre cloths but they were too harder, not at all soft
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Where are these 3M cloths available? Are they microfibre cloths? At Big Bazaar, I saw some microfibre cloths but they were too harder, not at all soft
In chennai it was available at the 3M authorised dealership. But it see,ms it is available in all reliance outlets and petrol pumps across india ( not the reliance fresh).

The rs.350 cloth is a microfibre cloth where as this 99rs cloth is a pure cotton cloth but it is too soft as if it is to be used on babies. It holds dirt very well.

Just enquire and you will get it in any big car shop. If not pm me may be i can ship it for you from here.

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geash, so u use the 350rs microfibre cloth for wiping the wax off?
Is a single cloth sufficient to polish whole car? I mean can you re use same portion to polish other areas?

Also with this 99rs cotton cloth, you use to wipe dust off on the DRY car? Is it really scratch free?
I used those standard soft cloths that you get for 20rs (yellow color). But they seem to have lint/scratch prone.

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geeash, so u use the 350rs microfibre cloth for wiping the wax off?
Is a single cloth sufficient to polish whole car? I mean can you re use same portion to polish other areas?

Also with this 99rs cotton cloth, you use to wipe dust off on the DRY car? Is it really scratch free?
I used those standard soft cloths that you get for 20rs (yellow color). But they seem to have lint/scratch prone.
350 rs microfibre not for wiping the wax off . it is for shining the wax after application with cotton waste. i generally use banian cloth ( got a couple of brand new ones when i got the car and tore them) to shine the wax and to get that extra shine i use this microfibre thing . It really works wonders.

As for the 99rs cloth use to wipe of the dust on dry car and also for washing and wiping it dry. I guess it is multi purpose. But before wiping of dust on dry surface i use my vaccum cleaner in high blower mode to blow off the coarse dust off the surface and off the gaps and wipe of the fine dust with cloth. I some times wet it to wipe of the dust too. I have 3 of these one for wiping / one for washing/ one standby. I make sure i thoroughly clean this cloth with detergent all by myself and dry it in terrace to be clean for the next day. it doesnt scratch as far i can see. Anyways swirl marks are bound to occur with time we cannot prevent it, we can only delay it. I have planned to go for surface refinement in 3M after 1 year anyway.

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Default Blue car detailing cloth from 3M

These are this pics of the Rs.350 cloth from 3M which i use.

1. As you can see it is a little bigger than the yellow cloth and absolutely soft. It has small bristles like thing because of which it has good dust trapping properties and can be used to wipe dry dust of the surface without scratching. Although i havent taken chances as it is so costly, i use it to give that extra shine after polishing after waxing.
Fiat Linea 1.4 FIRE Emotion Pack (Petrol) - My Dates with the RED Beauty !!!-p6050204.jpg

Fiat Linea 1.4 FIRE Emotion Pack (Petrol) - My Dates with the RED Beauty !!!-p6050205.jpg

2. This is a more close up pic to show the texture
Fiat Linea 1.4 FIRE Emotion Pack (Petrol) - My Dates with the RED Beauty !!!-p6050207.jpg
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I use the blue cloth for removing the dust in the car interiors. I bought it at foodworld. The yellow cloth is called the detailing cloth and am sure is available at most auto accessories shop. However I use a thin, white, pure cotton towel to wash the car. Hard to describe it, but it's worn by purohits when they bathe. It's cotton, holds water and easy to wring.
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Another thing (dont know whether its strange or normal) I noticed is - when I drive the car without turning the AC ON (not even fan) without rolling down the window glasses, in no time i.e. within 5-10 seconds, I start feeling heat or start feeling suffocation. Have not noticed it in any other car. I mean, you can drive a car withour turning on AC or fan for quite sometime after which you start feeling heat or suffocation. Is this normal? Does this mean the car is more insulated from outside air?

On the other hand, when I'm driving with AC ON & if I turn the AC OFF, in no time - again in 5-10 seconds - the colling is completely gone. In other cars I've noticed that the colling slowly tapers off & takes about 3-5 minutes to completely return to non-cooling normal temperature.

Are both these things normal in Linea? If yes, any idea why is it so?
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Another thing (dont know whether its strange or normal) I noticed is - when I drive the car without turning the AC ON (not even fan) without rolling down the window glasses, in no time i.e. within 5-10 seconds, I start feeling heat or start feeling suffocation. Have not noticed it in any other car. I mean, you can drive a car withour turning on AC or fan for quite sometime after which you start feeling heat or suffocation. Is this normal? Does this mean the car is more insulated from outside air?

On the other hand, when I'm driving with AC ON & if I turn the AC OFF, in no time - again in 5-10 seconds - the colling is completely gone. In other cars I've noticed that the colling slowly tapers off & takes about 3-5 minutes to completely return to non-cooling normal temperature.

Are both these things normal in Linea? If yes, any idea why is it so?
No idea about 1st issue as have never driven Linea till now without AC.
Regarding 2nd issue, i feel it in my car. You mean to say that the blower starts giving warm air as soon as compressor button is pressed to turn it off. Yes, warm air instantaneously comes in with sometimes some foul smell too (only sometimes).
But i switched the car off initially at some redlights to save fuel but the cabin kept its cool for those 30-40 secs. Now i dont switch off as car easily gives 11.1-11.5 kpl and thats better than my expectations.
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I also observed that as soon as you switch OFF AC, it becomes warm really quickly. Although i haven't experienced suffocation. I think its due to the huge glass area in linea (esp the windshield). The windshield heat is quickly transferred into the cabin, my guess.

Having sunfilm should help.

Also, in Linea how to put Fan only mode?
I guess we should switch OFF the round button with the snow star? But doing this makes the car really humid :(

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Another thing (dont know whether its strange or normal) I noticed is - when I drive the car without turning the AC ON (not even fan) without rolling down the window glasses, in no time i.e. within 5-10 seconds, I start feeling heat or start feeling suffocation. Have not noticed it in any other car. I mean, you can drive a car withour turning on AC or fan for quite sometime after which you start feeling heat or suffocation. Is this normal? Does this mean the car is more insulated from outside air?

On the other hand, when I'm driving with AC ON & if I turn the AC OFF, in no time - again in 5-10 seconds - the colling is completely gone. In other cars I've noticed that the colling slowly tapers off & takes about 3-5 minutes to completely return to non-cooling normal temperature.

Are both these things normal in Linea? If yes, any idea why is it so?
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No idea about 1st issue as have never driven Linea till now without AC.
I've also not run her without AC. Am talking when I start the car early morning & have yet not turned on the AC, in those few seconds I start feeling the heat & some suffocation also before I turn on the AC
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Having sunfilm should help.

Also, in Linea how to put Fan only mode?
I guess we should switch OFF the round button with the snow star? But doing this makes the car really humid :(
I've my own issues with Sunfilm. Anyway, its not much of an issue as I do not drive my car without AC. Its just peculiar, hence want to know why is it happening?

Yes you're right. That round button puts OFF the compressor
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