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Old 7th December 2009, 14:17   #691
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If i need a VIP Registration number then what is the procedure even if the regn of car is done by the dealer.
Some members have already answered above. If you meant a number like 777, 111, 1 etc, each state RTO has different rules, in Karnataka you can get it by paying 8k in the running series if there are no takers so far. If its already taken and you want in the next series, then the amount is at the fancy of the RTO, no hard and fast rule. I know people who got 777 for just 8k and few others who got the same for over 50k. So, it depends on the place, running series and the demand. Auction happens only when there are more than 2 requests for the same number in the running series. The cost through the auction can vary from 50k to few lakhs.

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When I switch off my car it does not just go to sleep quitely. I feel a slight shudder and some slight rattle ....... another Question about the clutch - Should the Clutch move sideways or other ways .
Both sound strange to me, although I have heard someone else commenting in the similar line. I have driven 4 hours non-stop, another ocasion 6 hours non-stop. Both times engine went to sleep as soon as the key was removed. But I never switch off the engine in a hurry, I wait for a minute after every drive more than 30 mts. I think this idea came to practise after I read some advise in our manual or somewhere else. Clutch play is never felt till today, its light and comfortable.

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Old 7th December 2009, 14:25   #692
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Thanks Shaju - The play is not too big. but yes i observed it yesterday. So I think I should not wait till the next service whihc is 3 months or 5 K kms away. I better go to the service center and have this checked.

I too have read the idling of machine for 30 secs before and after drive. But never practice it. Is it applicable to petrol cars too?
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I think this idea came to practise after I read some advise in our manual or somewhere else. Clutch play is never felt till today, its light and comfortable.
Idling for a minute is mandatory for diesel but it does not hurt to follow the same procedure for petrol as well. I usually wait 30 seconds before I switch off the engine. It switches off nice and easy. Never felt any 'sideways' movement of the clutch before. I press straight down.

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Idling the car for atleast 30seconds before you switch off the engine is recommended
even for petrol cars.
So suggest follow this small routine practise, everytime before you switch off the engine.
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another Question about the clutch - Should the Clutch move sideways or other ways (apart from the pressed and released motion). I dont mean a lot of play. but a minute movement.
This happens to me on my Santro too. Just as you mentioned, not a lot of play, minute movement.
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I too have read the idling of machine for 30 secs before and after drive. But never practice it. Is it applicable to petrol cars too?
Its not about Petrol or Diesel but about the engine configuration as I understand. Its usually done for Turbo engines. My friend has an Evolution (Mitsubishi) with a 'delay timer gadget' (after-market fitment), so he parks the car, takes out the key and leaves, engine will run for 3 mts more (he can set it from 1 mt to 10 mts) and come to OFF controlled by this gadget. I think the latest Evos come with this feature as stock.

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Never felt any 'sideways' movement of the clutch before. I press straight down.
I think everyone presses it down.
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I also do 30-45 seconds idling till the RPM drops less than 1k before switching off.

Question: Should we switch off the engine at traffic signals? I've also read in this forum that the engine should not be swtiched on & off too often (mine is 1.4 Zxi). In Bangalore, average waiting time at a signal during peak hours is anywhere between 2-4 minutes (or even more at times)
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I also do 30-45 seconds idling till the RPM drops less than 1k before switching off.

Question: Should we switch off the engine at traffic signals? I've also read in this forum that the engine should not be swtiched on & off too often (mine is 1.4 Zxi). In Bangalore, average waiting time at a signal during peak hours is anywhere between 2-4 minutes (or even more at times)
As far i know, if the waiting time is more than 60 secs, it's better if we switch off the engine. This we we can save a lot of fuel.Thats what i've been doing without any probs [ my car battery lasts for about 4-4.5 yrs & i've not replaced my starter motor yet]
Experts, please confirm if this is the right procedure ????
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Thats more of a personal choice than a technical one. I would not switch off the engine even if its a waiting for more than 5 mts purely because of the following:

1) Immediate change in the climate can cause more health issues (AC is always ON)
2) I can not sit inside without lowering the glass if the engine is OFF, that invites all the heat, smoke, dust etc. to collect inside.
3) I get bored in the waiting and the only entertainment is music, I can not play music unless engine is running (Amp and a Sub can kill the battery)
4) Another problem is the frequent signals all over the city, so if I am driving from North to South of city, how many times I will have to turn OFF the engine, which is merely impractical considering the above points. Suppose I am doing a 10 km drive within the city and I switch off the engine 5 times en-route, is it a healthy practise ? I dont think so. Both engine health and human health.

There are plenty of vehicles in the engine OFF position at signals, which is again a Personal choice by all means. Saving fuel is the only advantage we can connect it to the discussed subject, but you save fuel, what about your health ?

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Thats more of a personal choice than a technical one. I would not switch off the engine even if its a waiting for more than 5 mts purely because of the following:

1) Immediate change in the climate can cause more health issues (AC is always ON)
2) I can not sit inside without lowering the glass if the engine is OFF, that invites all the heat, smoke, dust etc. to collect inside.
3) I get bored in the waiting and the only entertainment is music, I can not play music unless engine is running (Amp and a Sub can kill the battery)
4) Another problem is the frequent signals all over the city, so if I am driving from North to South of city, how many times I will have to turn OFF the engine, which is merely impractical considering the above points. Suppose I am doing a 10 km drive within the city and I switch off the engine 5 times en-route, is it a healthy practise ? I dont think so. Both engine health and human health.

There are plenty of vehicles in the engine OFF position at signals, which is again a Personal choice by all means. Saving fuel is the only advantage we can connect it to the discussed subject, but you save fuel, what about your health ?
Hey buddy even I dont make an effort to shut off the engine if the signal is too short. But I beg to differ on OUR (a lot of us in the same boat) ignorance to be justified with health issues.
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Agree with Shaju. Even I don't switch off due to the same reasons you have pointed out while I used to do that with my previous car. Just that few people stare at you with that 'what's wrong with you' look on their face.
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Health issue is the major concern for me atleast, I am not judging others on that. Personally I have tried all that stunt (switching off, lowering glass etc.) in different seasons. First my eyes start watering with the exhaust air from other vehicles, then I will start sneezing or coughing (you can call it isnophilia) which will continue until I go to sleep that day. Not forgetting the tough job of controlling a crying kid or pampering a sweating wife which can spoil your day or even the week ! Hope you get my message ! But these issues are present only when I drive around in the car with the AC on. If I am on my scooter, I dont have any of the above, because I dont get into heat fluctuations, its hot or cold throughout my ride.

Is it worth inviting all these troubles after spenting close to 8 lakhs of your hard-earned money ? I dont think so. If you are far from the above troubles, its a great thing to practise, you save fuel, you save nature !

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Health issue is the major concern for me atleast, I am not judging others on that. Personally I have tried all that stunt (switching off, lowering glass etc.) in different seasons. First my eyes start watering with the exhaust air from other vehicles, then I will start sneezing or coughing (you can call it isnophilia) which will continue until I go to sleep that day. Not forgetting the tough job of controlling a crying kid or pampering a sweating wife which can spoil your day or even the week ! Hope you get my message !

Is it worth inviting all these troubles after spenting close to 8 lakhs of your hard-earned money ? I dont think so. If you are far from the above troubles, its a great thing to practise, you save fuel, you save nature !
I searched for some good emitcon to respond to that but could not find anything that can express me correctly.
I guess the carbon footprints are justified
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@Moonraker/@Gilead, Can you please let me know the exact location and contact number for this Balaji Enterprise if any of you knew it.
@stronghold: I have PM'ed the contact number to you. Let us know if he is of help to you.
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The cost of VIP regn number is 2.5k, 4.5k, 5.5k and 8k respectively, i dropped the idea of fancy number as it becomes eye catchy a lot, so no VIP number.
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