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Old 27th August 2010, 13:51   #466
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I filled the tank today and the mileage was 11.65. Ran for 465 kms and drank 39.9 lts. I also put in 40 ml of System G for the first time. No immediate difference.

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By the by,i'm a vanilla SXi guy, but i guess engine wise the S and SXI are the same.
on the expressway,where nowadays the speeds hover around 30-40 on a lucky day, i ride between 2200-2600(or whereabouts) in 3rd,and when you pull out in a gap, and it goes upto to 4-4.5 k, WOW!!
Yes, same engine, but different ECU map and exhaust system. The S exhaust has a deeper rumble at idle, so you can imagine what it would sound like at 4500 RPM. I have never heard the exhaust with the windows down. I should try that if I get up early some day. I can't stand the dust otherwise.
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Old 27th August 2010, 13:59   #467
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....I also put in 40 ml of System G for the first time. No immediate difference.
Good that I saw your thread, I had completely forgotten about the System-G thats in the boot since 6 months. I might have used it only once at a full tank filling, have done atleast 4 tank-fulls since then but totally forgot about this bottle in the boot. Does it really make a difference ? Its a 1 million dollar question.
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Old 27th August 2010, 14:06   #468
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does the system-G make any difference if you use speed/power etc??
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I dont think its required if you are using speed/power fuel. Its mainly meant for the normal unleaded fuel.
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..The S exhaust has a deeper rumble at idle, so you can imagine what it would sound like at 4500 RPM. I have never heard the exhaust with the windows down.
You had asked me if I had experienced the engine note at 4.5k rpm, but I haven't yet.

But I do experience the "deeper rumble" you mentioned above, because when I reverse park my car, I roll down the windows. Then I can hear it and it's very nice! Lovely sound.

Your mileage figures are very good. Pay-back time for good driving practices!
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I dont think its required if you are using speed/power fuel. Its mainly meant for the normal unleaded fuel.
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As of now, I havent used the system-G in my car.
I normally fill speed and sometime uleaded (if speed/power not available)!!
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As of now, I havent used the system-G in my car.
I normally fill speed and sometime uleaded (if speed/power not available)!!
i went super hypochondriac once and used system-G with power for about 4 tankfulls. felt the same, but then got trapped in haryana with fuel running out, had to take in about 10L of unleaded, that too with seemingly no QC at the station.
drove for about 10 KM, sounded harsh.
then i remembered about 20 ml of additive in the boot, poured it in.
The perceived harshness eased, definitely.
about 90% of the feel of power/speed, but still, much much better than pure unleaded.

so i guess that says something for it....
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I filled the tank today and the mileage was 11.65. Ran for 465 kms and drank 39.9 lts.
May be this is a result of the all new ICE in your, which has made you slow.
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I filled the tank today and the mileage was 11.65. Ran for 465 kms and drank 39.9 lts. I also put in 40 ml of System G for the first time. No immediate difference.
This mileage is amazing Gilead. In my case, I was getting a mileage of around 10-11 before the first service.
All the problems of DTE & Fuel guage fluctuation began after I got the car after first free service. The mileage has also gone down below 9. Its utterly disappointing to notice the Fuel gauge needle go up and down alongwith the DTE readings.
When the car was in the workshop after replacing the brake booster, I told them about this problem of fluctuation in the the DTE (varying upto +/- 80kms!!!) The service GM had no real clue and said these are just readings and not to be relied upon. This sort of an anwser was not acceptable to me. I anyhow asked them to check the fuel line. They just claimed to clean the fuel line by blowing thru it. Nothing else.
Still not satisfied, I asked them to connect the ECU to the IDA, which they reluctantly did. The PCM check was carried out and everything was normal.
One thing I noticed was that during the checks for fuel gauge systems, the IDA actually simlulates the fuel gauge needle to go upto "full" level. I could see that happening. Earlier these guys were saying that the DTE and fuel gauge needles are independent systems and the Fuel Gauge needle is not connected to the ECU.
Pls can you explain this? This is proved that Fuel Gauge needle moves up & down with the DTE figures moving up and down.

Also tried System-G. Not too much. I used about 30ml for 30 ltrs of fuel. No much of a difference till now. Ill try with a tank full next time. Any views on this lengthy post???
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Sorry to divert the topic but just want to know if you all renewed the insurance of your car and from whom? Is it again from Bajaj Allianz or are we getting any better deal from other vendor?

Secondly i received one excel from Bajaj people which have 2 columns one says premium of Rs 14864 & other Rs 6787.
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my premium is also due next month. BA and Ford (chennai) started calling/sms to know my intention to renew the ins.premium with them.
I have asked them to send me the premium calculation and NCB. I too have option to go with others but not sure whether same cashless claim is available. If goes with others those who do not have the cashless claim agreement with FORD, then everytime, one need to pay money first for any accident repairs and then claim the amount from the Ins.company.
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Yes, same engine, but different ECU map and exhaust system.
Are the bhp figures different?
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Are the bhp figures different?
nope.the same.
as for the remap,i know they remapped it during the transplant from the fusion, but i am not sure about a difference between the s and the sxi.
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HummerGuy, good to see you buddy. Long time since we spoke. I hope you are having fun in your S. Is it setting OMR on fire?
Yeah nice to see you after a long time I checked recently with MPL and its like 6cd changer that comes with new fiestas!

Yep I never drive below 80kmph and start very early at around 7.10AM to hit OMR and then 30KMS of pure adrenelin...

I do track my mileage for every re-fill made at Shell in a book , and at an average I get 13.5-14KMPL with AC on always but with just 2 occupants and 30PSI in the wheels
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May be this is a result of the all new ICE in your, which has made you slow.
I think you are right. My driving has definitely become a lot more sedate since the new ICE came in.
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This mileage is amazing Gilead. In my case, I was getting a mileage of around 10-11 before the first service.
All the problems of DTE & Fuel guage fluctuation began after I got the car after first free service. The mileage has also gone down below 9.
DTE fluctuation is normal and gauge can do up or down slightly depending on the incline. Even I was getting 9-9.5 only for several months so I think that kind of a mileage is fairly normal. My mileage is on the higher side now 'cos I leave office late and it's pretty much a smooth drive through some very good roads, so that's why I think it's above 11. 9-10 kmpl is the normal city mileage of the S.

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Sorry to divert the topic but just want to know if you all renewed the insurance of your car and from whom? Is it again from Bajaj Allianz or are we getting any better deal from other vendor?

Secondly i received one excel from Bajaj people which have 2 columns one says premium of Rs 14864 & other Rs 6787.
Can you scan and post the quote here BA guys have not called me yet but my insurance is due only in Nov. Not sure if they would be interested in me because I have already made a claim once.

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Are the bhp figures different?
Peak BHP and torque is the same, but I am pretty sure the curve is different on the S. There is a perceptible difference between 2500 to 4000 RPM when you drive an S and another car back to back. Just try it and see.

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I do track my mileage for every re-fill made at Shell in a book , and at an average I get 13.5-14KMPL with AC on always but with just 2 occupants and 30PSI in the wheels
Those are pretty much highway figures. Good for you, but I can't imagine getting up at 6 am in order to hit the road at 7 am, so I don't mind 11 kmpl for the privilege of waking up at 9 am.

Ford is now giving a CD changer when all they need to do is give a USB? Morons!
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