Go Back   Team-BHP > BHP India > Team-BHP Reviews > Test-Drives & Initial Ownership Reports


Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Old 19th July 2011, 19:51   #4861
BANNED
 
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: New Delhi
Posts: 1,316
Thanked: 233 Times
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by AmarPaithankar
How can a 5mm height difference ruin the suspension?

In fact, the original height is 65mm and if we replace it with a tyre having 60mm height (185/60 - R14), ground clearance will decrease.
Amitsingla has answered your query correctly. Read it for some knowledgeable info. A difference in overall diameter will cause speedometer errors also.

PS - I can't seem to multiquote on my phone and someone asked me if the TDCI has a DPF or not, the answer is yes it does.

Quote:
Originally Posted by vina

thanks.

I went for my first service today - here's the experience [*]Rear window opening on its own (noticed on Sunday I have the problem too - though the window takes some weeks to open a few mm)[*]headlamp alignment (seems to be slightly towards left from the day I brought the car home).
Hi headlight alignment should not be done on your figo. The thing you are witnessing is quite normal. Headlights are adjusted to project slightly towards the left so that they don't blind the oncoming traffic from the front.

So your car lights are ok and actually good for others also and aligned as per the motor vehicle rule. Thus no adjustment is needed, otherwise you would be causing an inconvenience to others and I'm sure you won't want that. So just giving you some useful info.

Last edited by Mustang.101 : 19th July 2011 at 20:01.
Mustang.101 is offline   (1) Thanks Reply With Quote
Old 19th July 2011, 21:23   #4862
Senior - BHPian
 
Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: Ghaziabad/Hyderabad/Mysore
Posts: 1,415
Thanked: 313 Times
Default re: Review: 1st-gen Ford Figo (2010)

Quote:
Originally Posted by Mustang.101 View Post
...


Hi headlight alignment should not be done on your figo. The thing you are witnessing is quite normal. Headlights are adjusted to project slightly towards the left so that they don't blind the oncoming traffic from the front.

So your car lights are ok and actually good for others also and aligned as per the motor vehicle rule. Thus no adjustment is needed, otherwise you would be causing an inconvenience to others and I'm sure you won't want that. So just giving you some useful info.

that's what I had been suspecting for a long time - that is why never posted on the forum. I mean the low beam lights show this behaviour to a good extent while the high beams show to a little extent - if you draw a line through their respective projections on the road, the right-lamp line and the left lamp line are almost parallel to the road. the only way you can expmalin that, except a really lottery-winning probability is if it was intentional.

Apparently nobody else is following this rule (or they are following the opposite of it in Hyderabad - pointed to the right and up)
vina is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 20th July 2011, 01:25   #4863
Senior - BHPian
 
Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: Ghaziabad/Hyderabad/Mysore
Posts: 1,415
Thanked: 313 Times
Default re: Review: 1st-gen Ford Figo (2010)

Quote:
Originally Posted by Mustang.101 View Post
So your car lights are ok and actually good for others also and aligned as per the motor vehicle rule. Thus no adjustment is needed, otherwise you would be causing an inconvenience to others and I'm sure you won't want that. So just giving you some useful info.

Hey Mustang.101 - quick question for you -

what kind of engine oil options does Ford provide? this thread here:

http://www.team-bhp.com/forum/indian...practical.html (The 'Synthetic' Way: How Practical?)

says that full synthetic is optional but not mandatory. If that is so I would like to tell the workshop to fill up semi-synthetic only - provided Ford is OK with that.
vina is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 20th July 2011, 07:45   #4864
BANNED
 
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: New Delhi
Posts: 1,316
Thanked: 233 Times
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by vina

Hey Mustang.101 - quick question for you -

what kind of engine oil options does Ford provide? this thread here:

http://www.team-bhp.com/forum/indian...practical.html (The 'Synthetic' Way: How Practical?)

says that full synthetic is optional but not mandatory. If that is so I would like to tell the workshop to fill up semi-synthetic only - provided Ford is OK with that.
Ford workshops provide semi-synthetic oil for both the tdci and petrol engines. Obviously the oil for petrol and diesel cars is different. I think you were asking about the tdci. For the fusion tdci, 5W30 grade oil is used, its good enough and hence I won't be shifting to synthetic anytime soon. For eg. South city ford in noida used to fill mobil super 5W30 oil.
Mustang.101 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 20th July 2011, 09:14   #4865
BHPian
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Chandigarh
Posts: 229
Thanked: 84 Times
Default re: Review: 1st-gen Ford Figo (2010)

Quote:
Originally Posted by Mustang.101 View Post
PS - I can't seem to multiquote on my phone and someone asked me if the TDCI has a DPF or not, the answer is yes it does.
What is this DPF thing ? Kindly explain in detail. What is it's purpose?
Diesel lover is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 20th July 2011, 09:34   #4866
BHPian
 
figo_mba's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2011
Location: Jersey City, NJ
Posts: 473
Thanked: 208 Times
Default re: Review: 1st-gen Ford Figo (2010)

Quote:
Originally Posted by Diesel lover View Post
What is this DPF thing ? Kindly explain in detail. What is it's purpose?
DPF is diesel Particulate filter. We could say it is a pollution control device.It removes particulate matter from diesel exhaust.

You can get more details from internet.

1.4TDCi 8Valve engine cleared the Euro 4 (in 2006)with this DPF but the 16valve design was discontinued since it could not clear the Euro 4 emission standards.
figo_mba is offline   (1) Thanks Reply With Quote
Old 20th July 2011, 10:22   #4867
Distinguished - BHPian
 
Sheel's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: Purnea(Bihar)
Posts: 4,635
Thanked: 3,832 Times
Default re: Review: 1st-gen Ford Figo (2010)

Is Ford's Total Maintenance Package for Figo available? Has any one amongst us availed it?
Sheel is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 20th July 2011, 10:51   #4868
Senior - BHPian
 
anilisanil's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: Pune
Posts: 1,435
Thanked: 287 Times
Default re: Review: 1st-gen Ford Figo (2010)

Quote:
Originally Posted by Sheel View Post
Is Ford's Total Maintenance Package for Figo available? Has any one amongst us availed it?
I think it is, you need to buy it within a month of your car's purchase. But it is ridiculously priced. I do not remember off hand the exacts though!
anilisanil is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 20th July 2011, 10:54   #4869
Distinguished - BHPian
 
Sheel's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: Purnea(Bihar)
Posts: 4,635
Thanked: 3,832 Times
Default re: Review: 1st-gen Ford Figo (2010)

Within a month? Its the 7th month of my Car.

It will work around to be almost the same & despite TMP, dealer will charge you for something or the other which doesn't fall under TMP as necessary.
Sheel is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 20th July 2011, 11:05   #4870
Senior - BHPian
 
anilisanil's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: Pune
Posts: 1,435
Thanked: 287 Times
Default re: Review: 1st-gen Ford Figo (2010)

Quote:
Originally Posted by Sheel View Post
Within a month? Its the 7th month of my Car.

It will work around to be almost the same & despite TMP, dealer will charge you for something or the other which doesn't fall under TMP as necessary.
Oh so you bought it in the 7th month is it? Then I might be wrong, but I do remember that it has to be bought before some time elapses.

So how much did it work out for you?
anilisanil is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 20th July 2011, 11:07   #4871
Distinguished - BHPian
 
Sheel's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: Purnea(Bihar)
Posts: 4,635
Thanked: 3,832 Times
Default re: Review: 1st-gen Ford Figo (2010)

I got my Car on 1-1-'11.

I had thought to check this out during 2nd service.
Sheel is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 20th July 2011, 12:12   #4872
Senior - BHPian
 
Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: Ghaziabad/Hyderabad/Mysore
Posts: 1,415
Thanked: 313 Times
Default re: Review: 1st-gen Ford Figo (2010)

Quote:
Originally Posted by Diesel lover View Post
What is this DPF thing ? Kindly explain in detail. What is it's purpose?

Quote:
Originally Posted by figo_mba View Post
DPF is diesel Particulate filter. We could say it is a pollution control device.It removes particulate matter from diesel exhaust.

You can get more details from internet.

1.4TDCi 8Valve engine cleared the Euro 4 (in 2006)with this DPF but the 16valve design was discontinued since it could not clear the Euro 4 emission standards.


figo_mba has already given you a brief introduction.

you can find more here:

Diesel particulate filter - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

http://www.team-bhp.com/forum/techni...te-filter.html (Diesel Particulate Filter)


Ford's diesels (in India) since last year have DPF - and from figo_mba's post above you can see why they have 2 valves/cyl (MJD has 4/cyl).

MJD doesn't use DPF - it cleared emission standards without a DPF. Also Micra/Logan diesel doesn't use one AFAIK.

All diesels need one to clear Euro-5





Quote:
Originally Posted by anilisanil View Post
Oh so you bought it in the 7th month is it? Then I might be wrong, but I do remember that it has to be bought before some time elapses.

So how much did it work out for you?
Quote:
Originally Posted by Sheel View Post
I got my Car on 1-1-'11.

I had thought to check this out during 2nd service.


So did/could you buy the package at that time? Mustang.101 can you tell us more about this?

Also what is the prices and what does it cover?
vina is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 20th July 2011, 12:46   #4873
BHPian
 
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: Noida
Posts: 519
Thanked: 175 Times
Default re: Review: 1st-gen Ford Figo (2010)

Quote:
Originally Posted by Mustang.101 View Post
I can't seem to multiquote on my phone and someone asked me if the TDCI has a DPF or not, the answer is yes it does.
Hi Mustang, it was me asking this question. Now since you confirmed that TDCi is DPF equipped, I have further question on the Ford approved engine oil for TDCi engine. The sticker on the car says oils with WSS-M2C913-B need to be used. Some of the service centres (e.g. Bhagat Ford Chandigarh) are using Shell Helix HX7 AF 5W30 which meets the WSS-M2C913-B standard. However, this oil is for Fords cars w/o DPF (see oil tech spec attached as word file). Also, I thought the diesel cars equipped with DPF require oils which have ACEA C1 or C2 or C3 rating. These are new low saps oils (ash <0.8%) to protect DPF. My dad's Figo D is going for first service in next week or so, so the detail oriented in me wanted to check on this first . Sorry for technical details on this thread and many thanks in advance for you and other members to share any info on this if you have. BTW, below are Ford engine oil approvals for pessanger cars. So for Ford cars with DPF, should the oil specification be WSS-M2C934-A?

WSS-M2C913-A - Engine oil, Initial and service fill, SAE 5W-30. This specification meets the ILSAC GF-2 and ACEA A1-98 and B1-98 and additional Ford requirements.

WSS-M2C913-B - The Ford M2C913-B specification is released in Europe for initial fill engine oils used for lubrication of spark ignition engines using gasoline and for compression ignition engines using diesel fuels. The specification is also used to define engine oils for servicing Ford engines where applicable. The oil shall meet all the requirements of the ILSAC GF-2 and GF-3 specification, the ACEA A1-98 and B1-98 specification and additional Ford requirements.

WSS-M2C913-C - Fully backwards compatible and is strongly recommended for all applications that currently require the specification Ford M2C913-B. The new engine oil provides various benefits to the customer such as improved fuel economy benefits and high robustness to biodiesel fuels.

WSS-M2C917-A - Viscosity SAE 5W40 engine oil for pump injector diesel engines.

WSS-M2C934-A - Extended drain engine oil for vehicles equipped with diesel particulate filter (DPF).

Source of this info is thread below and google. If you feel more comfortable, we can discuss on this thread as well.

http://www.team-bhp.com/forum/techni...ml#post2342811 (All about Diesel engine oils)
Attached Files
File Type: docx Shell Helix HX7 AF 5w-30 TDS.docx (26.4 KB, 879 views)
amit1234singla is offline   (1) Thanks Reply With Quote
Old 20th July 2011, 12:57   #4874
Senior - BHPian
 
Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: Ghaziabad/Hyderabad/Mysore
Posts: 1,415
Thanked: 313 Times
Default re: Review: 1st-gen Ford Figo (2010)

Quote:
Originally Posted by amit1234singla View Post
...

WSS-M2C934-A - Extended drain engine oil for vehicles equipped with diesel particulate filter (DPF).

Source of this info is thread below and google. If you feel more comfortable, we can discuss on this thread as well.

http://www.team-bhp.com/forum/techni...ml#post2342811 (All about Diesel engine oils)

Great info man - the thread you are quoting is so long I never took the trouble of going through it. Thanks for doing all the research.

Now the question is: do we get the 934-A spec ford oil in India, and if we insist on the workshop put this one how does it work for the warranty?
vina is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 20th July 2011, 13:10   #4875
Senior - BHPian
 
anilisanil's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: Pune
Posts: 1,435
Thanked: 287 Times
Default re: Review: 1st-gen Ford Figo (2010)

Quote:
Originally Posted by vina View Post
Great info man - the thread you are quoting is so long I never took the trouble of going through it. Thanks for doing all the research.

Now the question is: do we get the 934-A spec ford oil in India, and if we insist on the workshop put this one how does it work for the warranty?
As per my talks with Service Manager he is OK with filling the Oil that we bring as long as the Oil meets or betters the requirements.

But Vina, ford's OEM oil is good enough for the car. So if I were you I won't bother unless I have some special requirements like going on continuous drive for 7 days or something. I am suggesting this after doing some considerable research on whether or not I should upgrade to a better Oil.


Jeez! I have got no clue about DPF, so if need be we need to upgrade the Oil then. Thanks for the info Amit!

Last edited by anilisanil : 20th July 2011 at 13:17.
anilisanil is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply


Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
1st-gen Hyundai i20 (2008 - 2014) : Review GTO Test-Drives & Initial Ownership Reports 869 6th December 2016 10:20
6 month old Ford Figo DCT: Battery dead 7 times! An ordeal with Bhagat Ford & Ford India Night Raven Technical Stuff 27 20th September 2016 16:25
The next-gen 2015 Ford Figo. EDIT: Now launched RavenAvi The Indian Car Scene 719 9th November 2015 03:04
Supposed spyshots of next gen Ford Figo surface JayPrashanth The Indian Car Scene 73 13th February 2015 14:43
My 1st diesel: Diamond white Ford Figo ZXI. Interior Pics on Pg 3 sameerg001 Test-Drives & Initial Ownership Reports 78 9th June 2014 02:37


All times are GMT +5.5. The time now is 22:00.

Copyright ©2000 - 2016, Team-BHP.com
Proudly powered by E2E Networks