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Old 9th May 2010, 22:38   #46
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WoW! Thats a lot of calculations.
Looking forward to your next update.
It is fun to put down the data and then do the calculation. The Scanguage data needs no calculation except conversion of mpl and mph to kpl and kph respectively. The odometer data of course is calculated. There is a difference in distance between the odometer and the Scanguage. The latter keeps track of the time when the engine (ignition) is on!

The Sunday update is ready except for the actual tank fill. I was lazy to go to the fuel pump and so will get my driver to do it tomorrow.

Bear with me until then. If things go the way it looks, should be an interesting read.

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Tis strange indeed. I bought the diesel Figo for the mileage alone.
From my experience so far, it is in town running that it suffers, especially the short distance hops in the town.

From a 30 degree Centigrade at cold start, it took 4 and a half kilometres long to reach the normal cruising temperature of 83!
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I have noticed the same. It takes a minimum of 1.5-2km before you can feel the diesel clatter reduce. I really miss the temperature gauge on this car. I am just hoping they day dont come when these people would remove the Speedo meter too saying that you can set your speed and be informed by a buzzer/light if you cross that!!!!
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Can you comment on the FE figures that you get?
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Hi folks,

Long post.

I will put this also before answering any of your queries.

Scanguage readings are far more accurate in this than in the City.

I have done nothing special (what I mean is nothing to increase mileage) in my driving except limit myself to 70kph.

As said in the previous calculation post, I used the Figo on 09/05/2010 for an almost exclusive highway trip to a nearby place in the NH47.

The car was filled with diesel the previous day. The pump is 0.8km from house.

The guages at start:
My Figo Titanium TDCi Squeeze-image_010.jpg
The fuel guage with this filling behaved correctly.

The AC switch positions:
My Figo Titanium TDCi Squeeze-image_011.jpg
This is how it was throughout the journey up and down. Luckily I could park in the shade. I was alone the whole distance except for a distance of 13km when I had a front passenger (a prospective Figo customer).

This was it when I finished the up journey:
My Figo Titanium TDCi Squeeze-image_012.jpg

Now for facts.

As per odometer: 80km, 1 hr 36mts, 50 kph.

As per Scanguage: 48kph avrage speed with a maximum of 72kph, 1hr 36mts, 3.5L consumed for a distance of 79.52km @ 22.53kpl. Direct mileage readings were 22.4kpl with a maximum shown 22.72kpl.

This was where the car was parked:
My Figo Titanium TDCi Squeeze-image_013.jpg

The down journey was split in two.

So the first hop was 13kms:
My Figo Titanium TDCi Squeeze-image_038.jpg
This is the stretch where we were 2 in the car.

As per odometer: 13km, 21mts, 37.14 kph.

As per Scanguage: 35kph avrage speed with a maximum of 73.6kph, 18mts, 0.8L consumed for a distance of 12.64km @ 15.8kpl. Direct mileage readings were 16kpl with a maximum shown 16kpl.

At the end of the journey:
My Figo Titanium TDCi Squeeze-image_040.jpg
The fuel guage is showing an interesting level.

As per odometer: 69km, 1hr 23mts, 49.87 kph.

As per Scanguage: 46.4kph avrage speed with a maximum of 75.2kph, 1hr 21mts, 3.45L consumed for a distance of 67.04km @ 19.43kpl. Direct mileage readings were 19.36kpl with a maximum shown 19.84kpl.

The tank reading in the Scanguage was 162km, 3hr 20mts at 48.6kph average speed. 7.92L consumed.

The odometer distance was 163km which makes it 20.58kpl. The actual fuel put in was 8.32L with the average standing at 19.59kpl.

Today it went on a trip on the SH11 crossing Chanagnassery town.

Start:
My Figo Titanium TDCi Squeeze-image_043.jpg
The guage was at its earlier trick again. That is a full tank. Such an observant driver, never notices such things.

AC position:
My Figo Titanium TDCi Squeeze-image_044.jpg
My wife was with me and she likes it breezy and cool:

End:
My Figo Titanium TDCi Squeeze-image_045.jpg

Just observations and facts (why bore with more details):

In about 2 kms of congested town traffic in the up journey, the mileage from a maximum of 18.24kpl to 15.68kpl. The back journey saw it at 16.96kpl with a maximum of 17.12kpl.

The tank readings in the Scanguage were 66km, 1hr 48mts at 33.6kph average speed. 3.87L consumed. 17.05kpl.

Actual fuel put in was 4.38L giving it a 15.07kpl figure.

The difference between the two runs - shorter distance on a weekday, crossing a congested town (avoided part of the congestion using a different route while coming back and the difference was about 1.5kpl better figure and compensated for that by idling for 8 minutes), two people in the car with a cooler AC control position.

What to make of these figures?

Thoughts please.

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Seeing those figures i was just wondering what records Ford would break when they do their mileage run with this car. I wont be amused to see figures even around 40km/l.

But in practical use i guess the car gives a highly varying mileage very dependent on outside temperature, people inside, a/c usage/setting, tyre pressure etc. So it could range from 9-22 as of now. Thats a a huge variance by any measure!!!
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Hi,

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Tis strange indeed. I bought the diesel Figo for the mileage alone.
Too early to really form a bad opinion.

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I have noticed the same. It takes a minimum of 1.5-2km before you can feel the diesel clatter reduce. I really miss the temperature gauge on this car.
I am used to not having a temperature guage from the experience with the City. But it had a green light which used to be on while cold and go off when it reaches a ceerrtain temperature - 54 as per Scanguage.

In Figo, it came to the 50s in about 2 and a half kilometres.

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Can you comment on the FE figures that you get?
It is too early to really comment on the efficiency. Since I know that with present day engines, there is no magic done in the first / second service, I will wait for the engine to settle down.

In contrast to the Manza engine, this felt tight while new and it definitely feels better now. I am sure by the first service mileage it should be fine.

Things are not going to be easy in the congested roads of Kerala where maintaining a steady speed is extremely difficult.

From what I have observed, it is the slow and short runs in town conditions, which bring the mileage down. It has the potential to give very good mileages at a steady speed in highway conditions.

For my kind of running, (from what I see now) I would put an overall mileage of 14 or above as good for this car. My Marina is just 13.46kpl over 68500 kms.

With today's updates my overall efficiency for the Figo has gone to 14.33kpl.

The Manza is at 15.61kpl at 4157km.
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From what I can understand is that due to the changes made wrt to the gearing, the Figo gives an exceptionally good highway mileage, but at the cost of slightly below city average.
The mileage figures you have posted seem quite good and I am sure it will increase the more you drive.
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Seeing those figures i was just wondering what records Ford would break when they do their mileage run with this car. I wont be amused to see figures even around 40km/l.

But in practical use i guess the car gives a highly varying mileage very dependent on outside temperature, people inside, a/c usage/setting, tyre pressure etc. So it could range from 9-22 as of now. Thats a a huge variance by any measure!!!
9-22 kmpl is kind of too much inconsistency and I'm just giving a second thought to the Figo.
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Hi,

At 907km:

Wiped after taking it out:
My Figo Titanium TDCi Squeeze-image_046.jpg

The level:
My Figo Titanium TDCi Squeeze-image_047.jpg

Comments please.

The fuel guage has not updated itself after the full tank. Hmmm.

The oil looks lighter in the Manza even at 4200+kms. Posted similar images in my Manza thread.

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Hi folks,

Long post.

I will put this also before answering any of your queries.

Scanguage readings are far more accurate in this than in the City.

I have done nothing special (what I mean is nothing to increase mileage) in my driving except limit myself to 70kph.

As said in the previous calculation post, I used the Figo on 09/05/2010 for an almost exclusive highway trip to a nearby place in the NH47.

The car was filled with diesel the previous day. The pump is 0.8km from house.

The guages at start:
Attachment 346074
The fuel guage with this filling behaved correctly.

The AC switch positions:
Attachment 346075
This is how it was throughout the journey up and down. Luckily I could park in the shade. I was alone the whole distance except for a distance of 13km when I had a front passenger (a prospective Figo customer).

This was it when I finished the up journey:
Attachment 346076

Now for facts.

As per odometer: 80km, 1 hr 36mts, 50 kph.

As per Scanguage: 48kph avrage speed with a maximum of 72kph, 1hr 36mts, 3.5L consumed for a distance of 79.52km @ 22.53kpl. Direct mileage readings were 22.4kpl with a maximum shown 22.72kpl.

This was where the car was parked:
Attachment 346088

The down journey was split in two.

So the first hop was 13kms:
Attachment 346078
This is the stretch where we were 2 in the car.

As per odometer: 13km, 21mts, 37.14 kph.

As per Scanguage: 35kph avrage speed with a maximum of 73.6kph, 18mts, 0.8L consumed for a distance of 12.64km @ 15.8kpl. Direct mileage readings were 16kpl with a maximum shown 16kpl.

At the end of the journey:
Attachment 346089
The fuel guage is showing an interesting level.

As per odometer: 69km, 1hr 23mts, 49.87 kph.

As per Scanguage: 46.4kph avrage speed with a maximum of 75.2kph, 1hr 21mts, 3.45L consumed for a distance of 67.04km @ 19.43kpl. Direct mileage readings were 19.36kpl with a maximum shown 19.84kpl.

The tank reading in the Scanguage was 162km, 3hr 20mts at 48.6kph average speed. 7.92L consumed.

The odometer distance was 163km which makes it 20.58kpl. The actual fuel put in was 8.32L with the average standing at 19.59kpl.

Today it went on a trip on the SH11 crossing Chanagnassery town.

Start:
Attachment 346090
The guage was at its earlier trick again. That is a full tank. Such an observant driver, never notices such things.

AC position:
Attachment 346091
My wife was with me and she likes it breezy and cool:

End:
Attachment 346092

Just observations and facts (why bore with more details):

In about 2 kms of congested town traffic in the up journey, the mileage from a maximum of 18.24kpl to 15.68kpl. The back journey saw it at 16.96kpl with a maximum of 17.12kpl.

The tank readings in the Scanguage were 66km, 1hr 48mts at 33.6kph average speed. 3.87L consumed. 17.05kpl.

Actual fuel put in was 4.38L giving it a 15.07kpl figure.

The difference between the two runs - shorter distance on a weekday, crossing a congested town (avoided part of the congestion using a different route while coming back and the difference was about 1.5kpl better figure and compensated for that by idling for 8 minutes), two people in the car with a cooler AC control position.

What to make of these figures?

Thoughts please.
hey from where you purchased the Scangauge ? and how much it costs in India ?
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Hi,

You quoted that whole message to ask that question?

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hey from where you purchased the Scangauge ? and how much it costs in India ?
It was ordered online and it reached through post to me.

Reached me on 19/06/2009

Source: Ebay seller -MileagePros
Price paid: Rs 9621.38 (credit card)
Customs duty paid: Rs 2515.00
So Total paid: Rs 12136.38 (includes an extra cable)

I don't know whether it is openly available in India yet.
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your figo looks good with those alloys.By the way just curious,what do you do with all that cars you omn? ;-)
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At 907km:


Comments please.

The fuel guage has not updated itself after the full tank. Hmmm.

The oil looks lighter in the Manza even at 4200+kms. Posted similar images in my Manza thread.
Maybe because the Manza uses synthetic brew while the Figo uses a mineral based one.
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Hi,

At 907km:

Wiped after taking it out:
Attachment 346570

The level:
Attachment 346571

Comments please.

The fuel guage has not updated itself after the full tank. Hmmm.

The oil looks lighter in the Manza even at 4200+kms. Posted similar images in my Manza thread.
Sir,
Oil looks lighter in what sense ? viscosity ? soot ? color ?

From the pics i feel the oil is fine after 4200 kms and i don't see much of soot either.
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Oil looks lighter in what sense ? viscosity ? soot ? color ?

From the pics i feel the oil is fine after 4200 kms and i don't see much of soot either.
Hello,

This pic shows Figo's oil after 907 kms and not 4200. By lighter, he meant the colour. He is comparing this with similar pics of the Manza's dipstick in the other thread.

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