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Old 17th October 2011, 21:15   #226
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There are several options if you want hassle free plug and play setup. The advantage of this setup is it is very easy to remove the chip while visiting the workshop to keep your warranty. Though purists claim that a remap is a better option for better performance improvements.

I don't have much experience of using many products but the one I can recommend is chipexpress. I used them in my earlier 3.0 TDI Q7 as well as skoda superb and quite satisfied with visible results. For the 4.2 TDI I opted for a much cheaper racechip but there was hardly any gain (In future I'm going to stay away from them though these are cheap). If you're ok with chipping then you might want to consider chipexpress. It is really easy to install though a bit on the costlier side.

(Heck .. I've even already ordered one more for my yet to be delivered Santa-Fe )
PS: I do not work for chipexpress or get any commissions. Statements above are purely based on my experience with them.
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Old 17th October 2011, 23:43   #227
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There are several options if you want hassle free plug and play setup. The advantage of this setup is it is very easy to remove the chip while visiting the workshop to keep your warranty. Though purists claim that a remap is a better option for better performance improvements.

I don't have much experience of using many products but the one I can recommend is chipexpress. I used them in my earlier 3.0 TDI Q7 as well as skoda superb and quite satisfied with visible results. For the 4.2 TDI I opted for a much cheaper racechip but there was hardly any gain (In future I'm going to stay away from them though these are cheap). If you're ok with chipping then you might want to consider chipexpress. It is really easy to install though a bit on the costlier side.

(Heck .. I've even already ordered one more for my yet to be delivered Santa-Fe )
PS: I do not work for chipexpress or get any commissions. Statements above are purely based on my experience with them.

Thanks a ton for sharing your experience. As i said i am a complete newbie to the world of chipping etc.
I would personally prefer the 'plug n play' setup for the very reasons you stated. Easy to just remove when needed.
So let me get this straight ,

1) Is chip express the plug n play setup type ?

2) What power/torque advantage did you obtain on your Q7 3.0 tdi ? I can expect similar figures since the engine is the same.

3) Are there various 'stages' of performance upgrades with the same chip ?
I mean, with the same chip can i initially just tune up to say 270 bhp and 570 nm and then take it further stage by stage to 300 + hp and 600 + NM or is it just a single stage tuning chip ??

4) Anyway to negate the possibly heavy turbo-lag after the power upgrades ?

Thanks again in advance

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Old 18th October 2011, 07:49   #228
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It doesnt get rid of the turbo lag but lag in the gearbox will be fixed, bro honestly dont do any thing else besides a superchip remap or a revo. Its safe reliable an yhe best possible for our cars available in india.
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1) Is chip express the plug n play setup type ?

2) What power/torque advantage did you obtain on your Q7 3.0 tdi ? I can expect similar figures since the engine is the same.

3) Are there various 'stages' of performance upgrades with the same chip ?
I mean, with the same chip can i initially just tune up to say 270 bhp and 570 nm and then take it further stage by stage to 300 + hp and 600 + NM or is it just a single stage tuning chip ??

4) Anyway to negate the possibly heavy turbo-lag after the power upgrades ?
1. Yes. It is about 5 to 10 minute job. The guide that comes with the kit should make it simpler for the first timers.

2. You can refer to Diesel Tuning with CHIP Express™ for their claimed increase in power/torque. Though I strongly suspect that is the case in reality . In 3.0 TDI Q7 case my 0-100 times got shaved off by about 0.6-0.8 sec. However the feel of drive was quite different esp during overtaking. With chip on it felt more willing and eager to your inputs.

3. Yes. The stock configuration doesn't gives a big perceptible difference. The power/torque can be increased in three further steps. I was using this at a notch below max. I couldn't observe any drop in FE with this setup.

4. Not to a great extent. But as I said earlier the response is quicker once the engine is on boil (say post 1500 rpm) compared to the stock configuration.

Hope that helps.
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It doesnt get rid of the turbo lag but lag in the gearbox will be fixed, bro honestly dont do any thing else besides a superchip remap or a revo. Its safe reliable an yhe best possible for our cars available in india.

Thanks again. Will take a final call when its time to take the plunge.
Will PM you with more queries and even check out your car since you have tuned it.


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1. Yes. It is about 5 to 10 minute job. The guide that comes with the kit should make it simpler for the first timers.

2. You can refer to Diesel Tuning with CHIP Express™ for their claimed increase in power/torque. Though I strongly suspect that is the case in reality . In 3.0 TDI Q7 case my 0-100 times got shaved off by about 0.6-0.8 sec. However the feel of drive was quite different esp during overtaking. With chip on it felt more willing and eager to your inputs.

3. Yes. The stock configuration doesn't gives a big perceptible difference. The power/torque can be increased in three further steps. I was using this at a notch below max. I couldn't observe any drop in FE with this setup.

4. Not to a great extent. But as I said earlier the response is quicker once the engine is on boil (say post 1500 rpm) compared to the stock configuration.

Hope that helps.

Thanks a ton man
I just checked the diesel tuning link you sent and 310ps and 650 NM is DROOL !!!
Expensive yes, but worth saving up for !
Might end up going for this. Cant imagine what it will do to an already ballistic female. LOL

Will PM you with further questions if any.

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Old 29th October 2011, 21:21   #231
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VAG cars after Sept 2009 have encrypted ECU's, please check with superchips before going for a bluefin
You are absolutely spot on. Had some dialogue with Oettinger in Germany and they confirm that for A4s manufactured post Oct 2010, the ecu is encrypted and if one desires a re-map, the ecu needs to be physically removed from the car shipped to Germany for the remap. Also they confirmed that for cars with Multitronic transmission the power output needs to be restricted so not to burn the CVT. So am having second thoughts on the remap for my 2.0 TFSI now :(
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So after exactly 29,743km on the odo and just above 1.5 years of ownership she will finally go in for her first scheduled service today (her oil/fluids/brakes etc. were checked on the couple of occasions when she was at the service centre post accidents is why the first service comes after more than 1.5 years).
Boy!! what a journey...hoping it just keeps going on & on.
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Old 23rd December 2011, 10:44   #233
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Got really bored late last saturday , couldn't sleep so just impulsively drove down to a distant suburb to meet a couple of friends. Turns out they were as jobless as i was so the inevitable happened.
That's right...
A photoshoot
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You are absolutely spot on. Had some dialogue with Oettinger in Germany and they confirm that for A4s manufactured post Oct 2010, the ecu is encrypted and if one desires a re-map, the ecu needs to be physically removed from the car shipped to Germany for the remap. Also they confirmed that for cars with Multitronic transmission the power output needs to be restricted so not to burn the CVT. So am having second thoughts on the remap for my 2.0 TFSI now :(
My tuner couldn't read my ECU either, we removed it from the engine compartment and its outer shell but still no go. I got a new Siemens Tri-core (I think) under warranty, so had to leave it stock.

I know someone who has tuned 10/11 non CBU A4's, you should get it touch with him if your having second thoughts about sending your ECU to Germany.

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You have the tiptronic, right?
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My tuner couldn't read my ECU either, we removed it from the engine compartment and its outer shell but still no go. I got a new Siemens Tri-core (I think) under warranty, so had to leave it stock.

I know someone who has tuned 10/11 non CBU A4's, you should get it touch with him if your having second thoughts about sending your ECU to Germany.

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You have the tiptronic, right?

Yup 6-speed tiptronic. I think the 3.2 & 3.0 have the same gearbox.
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Yup 6-speed tiptronic. I think the 3.2 & 3.0 have the same gearbox.
3.0 in some countries get the multitronic in the SE trim. But i remember we discussed the 6 speed tiptronic.
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3.0 in some countries get the multitronic in the SE trim. But i remember we discussed the 6 speed tiptronic.

Ouch ! Such a masterpiece of an engine with a multi-tronic is saddening .
The responses would be way too slow ,not to mention the downshifting.
But are you sure its the 3.0 ? Most western economies also get the A4 in the 2.7TDi package. Perhaps that could be the multitronic variant ?
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It's tuned slightly lower too, I'm sure its the 3.0. I re-checked before I posted.

Audi is chucking the 2.7 from the A4 and A6 models all over.
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Just something that we do -
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PLazaTurbo, read through your ownership thread and it's quite an interesting story. Just wanted to check why didn't you get 18' rims as standard cause the fully loaded quattro's (Assuming WCI included since it's fully loaded) comes with 18 inchers. Is it because it was 2010?
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