The VTEC strikes back!

[suman]

Originally Posted by goldie_malhotra

Suman, I tend to agree with Gagan - I also checked out the Fiesta Sxi and even with the leather seats, the interiors are good, but not as great as NHC, and its not as spacious either.

Well, to each his own but I prefer the leather to fabric any day. Rear seat space - agree with you that Fiesta is more cramped than NHC if driver's seat is pushed back fully

Originally Posted by goldie_malhotra

And except for those and the ABS/EBD (which costs extra), what other equipment is different ? - maybe the 6-Cd changer, but heard it doesnt support MP3 ...

Still way better than a cassette player and adequate for my daily needs; additional over GXI is leather upholstery and leather wrapped steering wheel with aluminium spokes, Alloy wheels (GXI?), DTE gauge, outside temp display, 6 speakers instead of usual 4, intelligent defogger, head lamp levelling (not sure if GXI has this), rear fog lamps. LOADS of storage space and map reading lamps as well as illuminated glove compartment to mention a few

Originally Posted by goldie_malhotra

The diff of a lac is only between the Fiesta Sxi and the NHC VTEC - NHC Gxi is actually cheaper...

Agreed but there is still a difference of 30k ex-showroom Gurgaon and you can add on another 20k or so for the leather upholstery so that is still 50k more between SXI & GXI......

Originally Posted by goldie_malhotra

And i hope you are comparing the peppiness with the non-VTEC version only

As I said, way peppier than NHC ZX........having said that I'll hold my tongue about the VTEC vs SXI bit till I've run in my car though no doubt the timings show the VTEC to be a quicker sprinter!!!

[unknown]

head lamp levelling (not sure if GXI has this).

This feature even comes in Santro so why not in Honda .

[suman]

Originally Posted by unknown

This feature even comes in Santro so why not in Honda .

You'd be surprised......airbags in the swift but not in any others till the 10 lac plus category, so....

[goldie_malhotra]

Originally Posted by suman

having said that I'll hold my tongue about the VTEC vs SXI bit till I've run in my car though no doubt the timings show the VTEC to be a quicker sprinter!!!

only one way to figure that out - the delhi-jaipur highway
run-in your car soon, mate and we could have that drive

[goldie_malhotra]

Originally Posted by unknown

This feature even comes in Santro so why not in Honda .

Its there in the GXi and in the Exi as well - though its not mentioned as a feature in their brochure - dunno why ?

Was not aware of Santro having this feature ? - Accent GLE, yes - but not the santro ....

[suman]

Originally Posted by goldie_malhotra

Its there in the GXi and in the Exi as well - though its not mentioned as a feature in their brochure - dunno why ?

Was not aware of Santro having this feature ? - Accent GLE, yes - but not the santro ....

Surprisingly, lot of the so-called lower end cars have a lot of these interesting features - I think the Wagon R Euro 3 also has this (apart from ABS-EBD)

[suman]

Originally Posted by goldie_malhotra

only one way to figure that out - the delhi-jaipur highway
run-in your car soon, mate and we could have that drive

Will do & look forward to it.....though I wouldn't mind taking off from any red light on Outer Ring road early morning as well!

[unknown]

Its there in the GXi and in the Exi as well - though its not mentioned as a feature in their brochure - dunno why ?

Yes-It's come with all City variant's offtopic>Now GXI comes with a alpine mp3 music player !

[gary_yuen42]

Originally Posted by v1p3r

The Vtec engines we get here are D-series, not the mad B-series mills. I'd kill for a B16B...

D-series and add a turbo Engine tends to be steadily available and not expensive Just an idea

[Mpower]

Originally Posted by v1p3r

The Vtec engines we get here are D-series, not the mad B-series mills. I'd kill for a B16B...

Hey V1per, the OHC has the B series. The NHC uses the L series engine and the Vtec is called the L-15 VTEC. The last of the B series was the B-17 Honda Civic...after the I-VTEC comes out the K-18 will replace it and the B series is officially dead after all those years.

[Buffetfan]

Originally Posted by suman

Surprisingly, lot of the so-called lower end cars have a lot of these interesting features - I think the Wagon R Euro 3 also has this (apart from ABS-EBD)

even Maruti 800 comes with headlamp levelling feature...it is a mandatory requirement on all cars now

[anarchist]

Originally Posted by Buffetfan

even Maruti 800 comes with headlamp levelling feature...it is a mandatory requirement on all cars now

Yes its a mandatory requirement and so are the rear seat belts if I am right, not sure how many cars to provide these on this day??

[dhall_gagan]

Originally Posted by suman

Still way better than a cassette player and adequate for my daily needs; additional over GXI is leather upholstery and leather wrapped steering wheel with aluminium spokes, Alloy wheels (GXI?), DTE gauge, outside temp display, 6 speakers instead of usual 4, intelligent defogger, head lamp levelling (not sure if GXI has this), rear fog lamps. LOADS of storage space and map reading lamps as well as illuminated glove compartment to mention a few
Storage space of NHC is bigger and also more well designed( refer Overdrive comparison), where as other small features are concerned, yes Fiesta might be the best at the price given, but Put a leather upholstery in NHC and whoooosh! the car competes the interiors of Corrola. Also, The rear seats don't have much space than NHC and it is far more convenient to seat 3 in NHC than in Fiesta.

As I said, way peppier than NHC ZX........having said that I'll hold my tongue about the VTEC vs SXI bit till I've run in my car though no doubt the timings show the VTEC to be a quicker sprinter!!!

I Agree to that, but the eff was another reason for getting my heads turn towards NHC.

Gagan

[dhall_gagan]

Originally Posted by suman

Well, to each his own but I prefer the leather to fabric any day. Rear seat space - agree with you that Fiesta is more cramped than NHC if driver's seat is pushed back fully

Still way better than a cassette player and adequate for my daily needs; additional over GXI is leather upholstery and leather wrapped steering wheel with aluminium spokes, Alloy wheels (GXI?), DTE gauge, outside temp display, 6 speakers instead of usual 4, intelligent defogger, head lamp levelling (not sure if GXI has this), rear fog lamps. LOADS of storage space and map reading lamps as well as illuminated glove compartment to mention a few

Storage space of NHC is bigger and also more well designed( refer Overdrive comparison), where as other small features are concerned, yes Fiesta might be the best at the price given, but Put a leather upholstery in NHC and whoooosh! the car competes the interiors of Corrola. Also, The rear seats don't have much space than NHC and it is far more convenient to seat 3 in NHC than in Fiesta.

Originally Posted by suman

As I said, way peppier than NHC ZX........having said that I'll hold my tongue about the VTEC vs SXI bit till I've run in my car though no doubt the timings show the VTEC to be a quicker sprinter!!!

[goldie_malhotra]

Originally Posted by Mpower

Hey V1per, the OHC has the B series. The NHC uses the L series engine and the Vtec is called the L-15 VTEC. The last of the B series was the B-17 Honda Civic...after the I-VTEC comes out the K-18 will replace it and the B series is officially dead after all those years.

For more details on the L-series VTEC, see the Technical coverage section in
http://asia.vtec.net/Reviews/VTECCityPrev/index.html

Also, the below link gives a nice description of the VTEC implementations over the ages
http://asia.vtec.net/spfeature/vtecimpl/vtec1.html