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Old 20th August 2012, 13:00   #91
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Hi all,
Recently we have noticed high oil consumption.The car was brought to Kerala from Bangalore last month.About 2000 ml oil was consumed in the last 2500 km! We have noticed that the oil consumption is high when the car is taken for long trips.

The car was checked at the MASS (Indus Muvattupuzha).They couldn't find any major engine problem or oil leak.Planning to bring the car to Trivandrum and get it checked.I know a senior engineer who works for Maruti.Will update on the matter.
There are 3 causes for high oil consumption.
1. Worn out piston rings
2. Leakage from valve seat
3. Head gasket leakage. (In some cars only where there is oil circuit through the head gasket from block to head)

It is a serious issue. I suggest you take it strongly with Marurti Suzuki.
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Default Re: Swift Diesel.Vdi - Ownership report.Facing problems -Maruti refuses to honor warr

Mevtec, sorry to know that the trvails of DDIS is far from over.
I would suggest that the diagnosis and solutions if any by the engine specialist at TVM should be last option.
If you are not satisfied with this analysis, please consider disposing the car and treat the whole episode as a bad dream.
It is not worth living your life with this kind of product and service especially when lives are at stake while using the car.
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For reference last oil change was more than 4000kms and had done about 700 kms of highway driving, quite spirited at it. Oil was just below full mark after the oil change.
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Jaggu - Now that I drive a swift D I have a very important query

I check the oil levels religiously. My observation is that the oil level in the dip stick is always less than max. but slightly above the mid point.

Does MASS short change us by charging for 3.1 and fill 2.5 ? Will check the dip stick post service and keep you folks posted

Has anyone checked the dip stick right after service ?
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Jaggu - Now that I drive a swift D I have a very important query
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Has anyone checked the dip stick right after service ?
This is normal if i remember since the engine can actually can take more oil. 3.1 is the prescribed quantity to avoid any oil seepage issue into the turbo. As long as the dipstick shows close to half mark (at cold), its ok.
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This is normal if i remember since the engine can actually can take more oil. 3.1 is the prescribed quantity to avoid any oil seepage issue into the turbo. As long as the dipstick shows close to half mark (at cold), its ok.
Thanks Jaggu - So MASS does charge you for 3.1 and short change all swift owners by filling less than 3.1. Next time I am carrying my own oil which is the Delvac 1 (3x1ltr) and see how it works
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Thanks Jaggu - So MASS does charge you for 3.1 and short change all swift owners by filling less than 3.1. Next time I am carrying my own oil which is the Delvac 1 (3x1ltr) and see how it works
No, what Jaggu said is the engine can take more oil ( more than 3.1ltr ); however Maruti fills 3.1ltr as per prescribed norms.
That, to me, is very different to your underlined conclusion.
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No, what Jaggu said is the engine can take more oil ( more than 3.1ltr ); however Maruti fills 3.1ltr as per prescribed norms.
That, to me, is very different to your underlined conclusion.
@babhishek - Filling just upto the top mark (or F) is fine. Folks at Hyundai A.S.S do that do as I check the dip stick religiously. MASS could be following the TSB but why fill it only till mid point ?

The only way we can reconcile on this one is to have BHPians with the MJD heart post a pic of the dip stick post service as the MJD heart needs 3.2 lts too

http://www.team-bhp.com/forum/long-t...ml#post3075595

Shall request CD to help us with a pic

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Jaggu - Now that I drive a swift D I have a very important query

I check the oil levels religiously. My observation is that the oil level in the dip stick is always less than max. but slightly above the mid point.

Does MASS short change us by charging for 3.1 and fill 2.5 ? Will check the dip stick post service and keep you folks posted

Has anyone checked the dip stick right after service ?
My experience based on Tata Manza Diesel, same 1.3 MJD engine. Recommended engine oil quantity is 3.2L and once I fully drain the old oil, fill 3.2L fresh oil, the oil level on dipstick is seen at full mark. Never more or less than that. Unfortunately there is no F or M mark on the dipstick (I think it's same in Swift as well), but there is a clearly marked range of about 1" inch long and level is seen at upper end of the range but not beyond that.

And I think this is how it is in most cars. Once old oil is fully drained, from the drain plug (w/o opening sump or engine), and filled with recommended oil quantity, the level on dipstick should be seen at full (and not over or more than few mm under).
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