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Old 28th January 2011, 15:28   #31
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Congratulations.
Must say that you have a very rare Punto.
Punto 1.4 and that too in electric Blue!!!
Rare is the word.
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Thanks dDownload, I had a different opinion about the colour before I bought the car but now the colour just looks so good and awesome. IMHO I feel this is the best colour on the Punto. though no offence meant to any Punto owner. And I agree, Punto 1.4's are rare on this forum and EB is the thing which makes it rarer.

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Congratulations,

Car looks stunning,

The amount of wax you have applied seem to be more than normal and the pattern (small overlapping circular motion recommended). Is this as per the instruction on the WAX?

But end result is amazing.

One think Fiat should consider is to provide a well moulded mud flaps.

Drive safe and have fun.

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Thanks a ton Raghu, it actually does look stunning. Well since it was my first time applying the wax , I was not too sure of how much quantity has to be used but I ll learn from it , even I felt it was more than required but since it was pure wax, and not wax and polish , I didnt hesitate much. The application has to be in swirls and I did that on the hood and the roof but on the doors it somehow slipped my mind , But yes the end result makes the car look so hot and beautiful. You can just keep staring at her for eternity and not get bored lol
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Default Update on the 3 out of town trips in my Punto

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Its been ages since I updated this thread so here it goes. Since my last drive to Pali, I was lucky enough to go for 3 more long drives, one to Uran, the next one to Alibag and a third one to Mahabaleshwar which was the most recent one and a cracker of a drive.

Below I have noted down my observations and the improvements that I have observed in all the trips in order.

Uran-

This was the first trip after pali and the car had barely clocked 1200 kms on the odo. The engine was good and responsive. The features, the ride comfort and handling of the car has satisfied all my requirements. Was still keeping the revs below 3-3.5k rpm. Mileage was around 12-13 max. I personally felt it was a bit less keeping in mind the highway drive but since the car was barely 1200kms old , I choose to reserve my comments till the car clocks 5000+ kms.

One thing which I observed was that when the temperature outside was 35-36 degrees, the cabin was not getting cooled as effectively, especially at the rear even when the temperature was set at 18. It wasn’t uncomfortable but in no ways comfortable as well with 4 people in the car

Alibag-

The drive as usual was simply amazing and the way Punto holds on to the road, the ride quality and handling is simply awesome and amazes me every single time and I realize I made the right decision buying this car. When I went for drive to alibag the car had clocked around 1500kms and what I felt is the engine still seemed not to have opened up as much as I would have liked. Downshifting from 4th to 3rd while overtaking would result in the engine sounding/feeling very strained and not eager or rev happy. This time I revved the engine for a couple of minutes till 4-4.5k rpm

Had the misfortune of going over a pothole and in the last ditch effort to maneuver the car away I still hit the pothole. From that time onwards, I have to turn the steering a bit towards the left in order to move in a straight line. Will get this sorted out during my first servicing. Again in this trip the mileage I got was 12-13 in the highway trip which was a bit disappointing.

Mahabaleshwar-

We started off from here by 8 in the morning driving leisurely took a small break at the Panvel Macs and then took off. This time as I was on the express way while downshifting from 4th to 3rd at a speed of around 80 , I was amazed. Instead of the regular strained engine noise and feel which I used to experience till now, the engine felt more responsive and “opened up” and instead of the strained engine noise there was this sweet addictive gurgle from the engine as if the engine was purring which said, I m free and I want to be revved lol. The car was run around 2000 kms by this time. And this was when I realized what people say about FIAT engines, the more kms you clock the better the engine gets. Just cant wait to drive her around more and more. The engine is responsive in every gear now and every speed, it feels great

One more thing which I observed was, Initially I used to get max mileage as per instantaneous consumption between 2.5 k rpm to 3 k rpm , but on the way back from mahabaleshwar at the speed of 140km/hr in the 5th gear at 4200 rpm, I was getting around 18km/ltr

Needless to say, I couldn’t hold back and pushed her on an open stretch of road and the car went upto 165km/hr @ 5000 rpm effortlessly and was very stable even at those speeds.

So now Im getting

A good mileage even at higher rpm

Much more responsive engine

Gear Box still feels a bit notchy sometimes but I guess that will be sorted out in the first servicing at 3000kms.

The only drawback was the AC , the side blowers hardly have any air throw. Will be getting the AC replaced under the FIAT drive soon.

Over all mileage(tank full to tank full method) for 400kms highway and 200 kms of city driving which I got was 15.53kms/ltr with 100% AC, which I feel is quite good for a car that weighs 1145kgs, and in all probability the mileage will improve a bit more after the first service.

The odo reads 2471kms now in 3.xx months which is not much but my job doesent permit me to take holidays too often

All in all Im a very happy man. The only draw back was the front and rear bumper have a nasty gash with the paint peeled out completely but no dents( stupid drivers in the society) and I feel the only way to get them done is by repainting them completely.

Any idea on how much would a complete repaint of both the bumpers would cost from the company ???

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Looks like you are having a nice time with the 1.4. Good to know that this engine opens up as well with more miles. Our 1.4 at home has done around 2.5k in 8 months !! I wish it was in my hands

For the AC, get the replacement done, it will solve all the cooling problems.

Painting each bumper should come to about 4 - 5 k i'm sure if its done at the showroom. (i may be wrong here)
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There was this other problem as well which was that the panel just below the steering wheel with the small pocket to keep stuff had come out , and the 3 pins which hold it in place were loose, 2 of the pins fell off when I tried to remove the panel and fit it back again when I noticed that the 2 pins out of 3 were broken.

Got the pins fixed and was back home in a jiffy.
Does the panel open and close fine now?
Have the same problem and got the clips on my panel replaced, but they dont stay on the panel and still keep coming off.
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Looks like you are having a nice time with the 1.4. Good to know that this engine opens up as well with more miles. Our 1.4 at home has done around 2.5k in 8 months !! I wish it was in my hands

For the AC, get the replacement done, it will solve all the cooling problems.

Painting each bumper should come to about 4 - 5 k i'm sure if its done at the showroom. (i may be wrong here)
Yeah Im having an honestly awesome time with the carI mean the car has everything I ever wanted with respect to the features and the car being european, my only concern was the mileage but with the 15.53km/ltr mileage with full AC on a 400 highway and 200km city driving even that concern has been laid to rest. I would estimate a 11-12km/ltr in the city with 100% ac, and after the first servicing even that might improve.

Also the tentative quote I got from the Dealer was around 5k per bumper, will think of claiming insurance for that.

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Does the panel open and close fine now?
Have the same problem and got the clips on my panel replaced, but they dont stay on the panel and still keep coming off.
Once the new pins were fixed the panels not coming off at all, its been more than 3 months, touch wood . The only thing is that the gap is a bit more pronounced but thats very marginal and doesent bother me at all. AFAIK there are 3 pins required to hold the panel in place, are you sure they have fixed 3 pins?? Also check up if any of the pins are broken or bent??
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Default 17200 kms update, 3rd servicing review and Trinity is happier then ever.

Hi guys,

Its been a long time since I posted an update on the thread and not a day has passed when I don’t keep thinking that its high time now that I should be posting but, life gets in the way. Infact she completed 2 yrs on 15th December, the day after the factory visit. The factory visit was more of a homecoming for her. Anyways……So today I have asked my director to wait, cancelled a couple of meetings and here I am.

Will be posting in 3 parts

1) Praise for Trinity,
2) Respect for Trinity,
3) Love for Trinity,

Under point (1) I ll be describing why the praise and affection for Trinity for not being exactly what she is supposed to be. She is supposed to be a car, a mechanical electrical product and she is exactly not that. She is a family member, and I take care of her like a daughter (this again is something which members might find funny but that’s just how I feel about Trinity so what the hell) Give her meals on time, wash her everyday, kiss her and tell her how pretty she is looking, take her to Dr. Prakash when she is not well. The Dr. gives her goodies as well everytime for being such a being such a brave girl. Trust me guys she understands what I tell her and speak to her about and she listens what I tell her to do and not to do and responds accordingly. Trinity is not a machine, it’s a living being with a heart and soul and I have endless experiences to prove just that.

Under point (2) I ll be describing why the praise and affection for Trinity for keeping me and my family always safe in some really bad situations and I’m sure had it been any other car in those sticky times, I wudnt be sitting here typing what I am had it not been for Trinity. No second thoughts! Period !

Under point (3) I ll be describing why the praise and affection for Trinity for growing up to be such a well mannered girl, who knows when to be docile and when to be aggressive. Her manners both in the city and on the highway have only improved and her appetite has gone down a lot
on the highways (18.xx kms/ltr on the highway many a times) . She handles herself with ease even now and whether sh is at a speed of 10 or 120 her manners remain the same, whether it’s a straight road or a ghat her manners remain the same. Calm composed and serene. She has opened up really well and for a planned overtaking, its not an issue even if I’m at 40kms /hr in the 5th gear. The responsiveness has only increased. I can use the 3rd gear as an automatic gear in the cities right from 15kms/hr till 50-60 kms/hr. Never have I felt the lack of power or torque in any gear not for pick up and not for overtaking neither in city nor on highways. So that really makes me wonder about the sluggishness of the car which i had read people commenting on. The only exception is when I’m at 175 kms/hr, which has happened like not more than 10 times in 2 years.

So my last update was when Trinity was at 6900 kms, Its been a wee bit more than a year now and now the odo reads 17,200 kms. The year was a good one for Trinity. She has grown up into a really pretty teenager. Rebellious, loving affectionate and everything else she should be. She had a couple of accidents lot of scratches by stupid bike drivers and the morons in my society. But she pulled thru everything and not once did she let me down and I love her for that. She took the brunt of stupid drivers in the city and on highways even at high speeds at times but always kept me away from harm. I thank her and talk to her and tell her everyday how much she means to me and how much I love her. Lol but true.

The first accident was when I was traveling back home from work and a rickshaw driver jumped a signal and suddenly came in front of me , perpendicular to me. I slammed on the brakes but it was a gap of just 2-3 feet when he came in front of me so banged into him at a speed of around 40. I still find it difficult to believe that the rickshaw along with a passenger was thrown off the ground and landed 10 feet away and all I
got was a crack in the bumper and loss of bumper alignment.

The second accident was when I was driving back from Alibag which is like a coastal village around 120 kms from Mumbai ( for those who are not from Mumbai). It was dark, raining heavily and a 10-12 inches deep pothole was filled with water and I missed it and the front driver side wheel went in the pothole at a speed of around 100 kms / hr. It was a loud thump noise of the suspension and the steering went rigid. I knew the tire had burst. I didn’t brake but kept my fo t constant on the accelerator as there was traffic from behind as well. At no point even when the tire burst,did the car lose control or changed direction. Luckily for me there was a restaurant only 2 kms ahead where I got the stepny installed. But the impact of the pothole + the 2 kms drive on the flat tire resulted in the alloy getting bent. Thankfully there was no accident.

Will be posting the over all review of the car in the next post. Heres some pics for now??? Does she feel even a day older then when she had left the factory??? Dont think so !!!
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Default Part II of the review and update.

Now that the accidents are covered, I ll come to the other parts of the time spend with her.

1) Looks-

Looks is a very personal thing and I understand that. Speaking personally, the only other car which I find to be a really good looker in this segment is the Polo. The car which I find the best looker is obvious by the ownership thread. The design is timeless and although the car was launched in 2009, and despite being a 3 year old design in India it still looks very fresh very new and timeless. The nose down type of stance
is pretty aggressive too and this is what I would call a fluidic design in the real sense than just labeling the word fluidic.

2) Comfort-

The car seats, the ride quality have only ensured a non tiring ride for 2 years now. No matter the distance no matter it’s a city or a highway, traveling in this car is very comfortable. The suspension is nicely tuned and the ride quality improves as the speed picks up is what I have experienced. When it comes to the comfort of enjoying the drive, apart from the ride quality, the AC chills the car effectively, although it
takes a bit more time to cool than I would prefer but that’s not saying it takes ages. Like 10 mins to chill the cabin on a full blower. The other creature comforts of speed sensing wipers and music system is a very nice touch and ensures my hands remain on the steering wheel and not on the music system, the same is for the steering mounted controls and the Bluetooth system.

3) Ride and handling-

Theres not much to say about the cars ride and handling to be honest. Straight line control is good even at 175 kms/hr on the expressway and planned and signaled change of lanes even at 175kms/hr is as easy as if the cars being driven at 100 kms/hr. theres absolutely no loss of composure in the car and it does the needful without breaking into a sweat. As far as the twisties are concerned, have driven countless times
in the ghats/twisty roads on way to lonavala , mahabaleshwar etc. and taking turns at speeds at even 100kms/hr without troubling or affecting the surrounding cars in anyway is a breeze. 0-minimum body roll, no lack of composure no nothing. Its like the car was made for such drives. Not to mention, I don’t have to press on the brakes to control the car, I only have to press on the accelerator or release the accelerator nothing less nothing more. The ride and handling is exceptional at all speeds on straight roads and twistys alike. Never once would you feel that the car will lose control. I honestly haven’t felt that even once in the 2 years.loss of control?? Whats that?? And in all my experience I haven’t seen too many cars that have such a potential in this segment. The only thing I can say is the goodyears have a distinct tire noise at high speeds but the stick like a leech to the road when it comes to grip.

4) Engine-

The engine now that’s one more area where theres not too much for me to say !!!! you feel the Italian roar, you feel the punch and you feel the animalistic rawness when required, while at times you ll have to look at the rpm meter to see if the engine is running. I first felt the engine open up in between 3000-5000 kms, which I have mentioned in my previous posts. The second time I felt the engine open up was at around 11,000 kms. What I felt when I say the engine opened up is that the motor gets more silent at idle, revs freely till the peak redline and the responsiveness of the engine while shifting the gears has improved tremendously. Trinity pulls up from almost any speed in any gear. Even at 40kms/hr in 5 th gear it pulls up quite well. She is not sluggish in the slightest way and I really would like to understand the basis of people’s comment that the car is sluggish. Who wouldn’t prefer the Abarth version of Punto or even the version if they put the T-jet in the Punto. There’s never enough power when you have cars , whose body and chassis can support the power the engine churns out. I would rather have a car which has the potential to handle all the horses that the engine can churn even if they are less, rather than buying a powerful car whose chassis n body cant support the power of the engine, but that’s just my personal opinion.

5) Third servicing of the car and experience at TASS Worli-

The 3rd servicing was done at the TASS at worli 2 weeks back. All the required top ups, changes and replacements were done. I had a list of the issues to be sorted out/ list of things to be checked in the car are as under

1) Wipers don't clean the front and rear wind screens properly,

2) The steering pulls to the left while driving. Even on a straight road,

3) The car scratches on speed breakers even with 1 passenger,

4) A "dhoop" noise comes from the backside of the car when going thru potholes even at very low speeds,

5) Driver side alloy wheel to be replaced as it had scratches when installed,

6) Underbody and engine guard to be checked,

7) The RPM needle goes up even when the accelerator is not pressed,

8) Caps on the plastic strip on the bumper near the wipers are missing and have to be replaced,

9) Low average in the city, ECU to be checked and tuned,

10) New version of Blue n me to be installed if available,

11) Paint touch up to be done in a few places,

12) Windows make a "thud" noise when rolled down and squeaking noise when rolled up,

13) Rear defogger filament is broken at one point, but defogger is working, has to be replaced or repaired,

14) Front passenger side mirror cap to be changed,

15) Foam of the driver seat has got pressed and gone down near the backrest,

16) Gear shift is not smooth,

17) Steering wheel controls don't work sometimes,

18) Stud mountings to be checked.

One thing I would like to mention here is about the SA at TASS, I have mentioned him before and a lot of members have had a good experience with him after that as well, his name is Prakash and he looks after the FIAT’s at TASS. A gem of a person , good knowledge about the cars, both technically and practically, honest to the core and very helpful.

Its been more than 1.8 months that I have been getting Trinity checked by him and never had any issues with respect to the service or availability of spare parts etc. All the issues mentioned above were attended to and resolved. The only issue I faced was, when I was informed that the servicing was done, I took Trinity out for a test ride and realized that the center return of the steering was gone !!! and it had become pretty hard as well like a non power steering car. The issue was shown to Prakash who said they will try to resolve it, they tried for a day and then they replaced Trinity’s steering rack under warranty.

Now the cars running just fine more responsive than before in city due to the traffic the FE dips down to 9km/ltr but when the traffic is sparse or medium in the city I even get 16kms/ltr that too even in very short distances. On highways if driven sedately I get as high as 18kms/ltr though on a few occasions I have managed to squeeze 19kms/ltr.

Will be posting on a regular basis now on guys. Apologies to have not being able to post since long. Hope this makes up for it. My phone had issues and i lost all the pics i had taken pre and post service so attaching some pics i took a few days back and today.

Guys all in all very happy with the Trinity even after 2 years. It still feels like I have just driven her out of the showroom. The apprehension abt the previously known so called issues about FIAT regarding , availability of spares, FE, quality of A** etc etc doesent hold true, this I m saying from my experience with the car and the company.

PS:A lot of stupid bikers and miscreants in the Complex have left a lot of scratches on her, thinking of getting the doors repainted. hope you had fun
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Hello mihirc,

A well written review. Good to learn that you are safe from the 2 accidents.

Can you please share a rough estimate of service costs of punto.

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Hello mihirc,

A well written review. Good to learn that you are safe from the 2 accidents.

Can you please share a rough estimate of service costs of punto.

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I have spent around 9000 Rs on the servicing this year, Last year it was around 3-4k. will post the service details pic soon . Spending around 12-13 k in 2 years on a car seems to be pretty reasonable. One of my friends who has a polo 1.6 has spent around 10 k a year on servicing and thats the benchmark i have considered when I say that an avg of 6k a year seems reasonable.

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