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Old 17th December 2010, 13:23   #46
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This is from Skoda Service manual about the Oil Change interval for Yeti,
About 15 000 km (7 500 km for diesel operation with high sulphur content ⇒ page 22 ) or 1 year: Vehicles with variable service intervals and extreme operating conditions.
Every 15 000 km (7 500 km for diesel operation with high sulphur content ⇒ page 22 ) or 1 year: Vehicles with fixed service intervals for changing the oil.
In countries with high sulphur content in diesel fuel, an engine oil change service must be carried out every 7 500 km ⇒ page 22 .

India is not in the list for higher sulphur content, but for mental satisfaction you can go ahead and change it at 7.5K, recent Oil change interval in Scorpio is 20K kms! and previous to that it was 15K, so it doesn't necessarily mean its must at 7.5K kms!
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PS: Let me know if you want all other Oil changes duration as per the manual!

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This is from Skoda Service manual about the Oil Change interval for Yeti,
About 15 000 km (7 500 km for diesel operation with high sulphur content ⇒ page 22 ) or 1 year: Vehicles with variable service intervals and extreme operating conditions.
Every 15 000 km (7 500 km for diesel operation with high sulphur content ⇒ page 22 ) or 1 year: Vehicles with fixed service intervals for changing the oil.
In countries with high sulphur content in diesel fuel, an engine oil change service must be carried out every 7 500 km ⇒ page 22 .

India is not in the list for higher sulphur content, but for mental satisfaction you can go ahead and change it at 7.5K, recent Oil change interval in Scorpio is 20K kms! and previous to that it was 15K, so it doesn't necessarily mean its must at 7.5K kms!
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PS: Let me know if you want all other Oil changes duration as per the manual!
I generally like to stay with the manufacturer's recommendations, unless the vehicle has been through some nasty driving conditions.

I would probably monitor the viscosity of the oil closely for the first 15,000 km to uncover any unusual patterns early in the life of the car, particularly before I proceed on any long journey (more than 3,000 km) and after that.

Otherwise Yeti will spend most of her time in fairly good conditions.
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Hi sushil!

I'm a little surprised by your FE readings, I must admit. It sounds almost too good to be true for a 2.0 liter mill. Are you driving at a constant speed and / or feathering the throttle?

I was told to expect 11kmpl in the city and 15 odd on the highway best case when I visited the Skoda showroom
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Hi sushil!

I'm a little surprised by your FE readings, I must admit. It sounds almost too good to be true for a 2.0 liter mill. Are you driving at a constant speed and / or feathering the throttle?

I was told to expect 11kmpl in the city and 15 odd on the highway best case when I visited the Skoda showroom
Indeed, I too am surprised by these figures. They are from what the instruments on the car, were tealling me. But, these are now beginning to match, from the tank to tank figures as well. Actual receipts from the fuel pumps used to calculate the FE. While driving the Jazz, I find that car instrumentation can optimistic by upto 7%. I find the error is far less for Yeti. But it is too early to say.

I am pretty light footed. I accelerate gently, and then drive at, as constant a speed as possible. Shift to next higher gear early (without loading/straining the engine). On Yeti I find that my gear shift is generally what its computer also wants. Yeti would normally provide recommendation for two gears. I find my self generally in the higher of the two recommendations, except when I am planning an overtaking manuever or I can visually see a hill/climb ahead, which Yeti's computer obviously can't. I don't really accelerate hard unless essential - say while overtaking on a highway. On expressway I set speed warning buzzer at 100 kmph and try to stay at 90 kmph indicated. On other highways caution signal sounds at 90 kmph.

When in city I plan to avoid rush hour traffic and take routes that are not congested. I look ahead, maintain distance from the traffic in-front and plan to reduce or increase the speed gently. I don't tailgate and if find an impatient driver on my tail, give him/her way - and a wide berth. At redlights, I tend to turn the engine off, if the wait is anything beyond 15-20 seconds.

When I go to drop my son to college at 0645 AM in the morning I get FE of 19 km/l on a 22 km round trip. Through the day, it deteriorates to about 15 km/l to 17 km/l.

Another contributor to good FE could be that I am travelling alone or perhaps with two persons, most of the time. A rule of thumb for Yeti would be: for every additional weight of 100 kg, an additional 1 litre fuel per 100 km. So for example a FE of 25 kmpl equals 4 litres/100 km. For a fully laden Yeti (an additional 200 kg), the FE would drop to 6 litres/100 km, which translate to about 16.6 km/litre.

Similarly, hard acceleration and continuously keeping the RPM above 2,000, would also affect the FE.

Short trips consume more fuel. Here's an explanation.

A cold engine consumes nearly twice as much fuel as the one running at normal temperature (90 degree coolant temp for Yeti). Yeti's engine likes to run at a coolant temperature of 90 degree celsius. In morning it takes nearly 10 km to reach this temperautre from 15 degrees C. Four kilometers later it is at 75 degrees. So anyway the vehicle is consuming fuel at a fairly large rate for the first 4 - 5 km, and then gradually improves further over next 5 km. Therefore, any trip of less than 4 km on a cold engine will impact FE adversely. And so many of us make several trips less than this distance each day.

I suspect, I am going off-topic here. So I'll restrain myself.

FYI, I leave climate control permanently on at 22 degrees with adaptive recirculation. So my figures are with A/C left permanently on.

It is thus possible to get FE upto even 25 kmpl on a lightly loaded Yeti on highway and a light footed driver, but it could equally easily drop to 15 kmpl or even less, for heavily loaded car and enthusiastic driver - who is mesmerised by the sheer power with which the Yeti tempts anyone behind the wheel. Yeti is powerful and continuosly prods you its drive ever faster. It can easily smoke most cars - and SUVs you'll see. If you fall prey to this temptation, the Yeti will be quick to extract its price in poor FE.

The game is set even more unfavorably, for the unwary driver in the City, where the Yeti is capable of darting in and out of tight spaces, accelerating and smoking one and all, flitting about in its elements. I am not surprised that the gentlemen (and women) at the showroom only managed 15 kmpl on the highway and paltry 11 kmpl in the city.

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Good to know!

I also used the numbers I've seen for this same engine on the Superb and the Laura. Most Superb diesel owners get around 10kmpl. Most Laura DSG owners get around 11 kmpl (both in Mumbai traffic with constant AC).

I guess the Yeti benefits from the manual 6 speed transmission but the extra weight and 4X4 must surely impact it negatively?

Can't wait to get mine and test it to know for myself.
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Sushil - Requesting for second time, interior pictures
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I am travelling for a couple of days. As soon as I get some good bandwidth I'll post some more pictures.
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Default Re: The Adorable (Skoda) Yeti - Some Photos of MFD and FE figures

Here are some pictures of the Multifunction Display (MFD) showing:

1. Setup
2. Data for Trip 1
3. Data for Trip 2 (From new)
4. Couple of pictures of the inside

MFD Setup:

Some photographs of the setup for MFD. This would give an idea of various options available. There are submenus available under some of these. I have not clicked those to save space.

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The first screen that you see on turning the key.

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The main menu.

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The convenience. Here you can set the automatic window closing in event of rain. The windows and door operation.

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Lights and visibility menu allows one to enable daylight driving lights, rear wiper behaviour and convenience information.

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Consumption and distance allows one to select how the fuel consumption and distance would be diplayed. Whether it would km/l, l/100 km, mpg (British) or mpg (US)


Below you'll see photographs of the data from two trips.

TRIP 1:

The trip 1 was done this morning to drop Mehul to his college. You can see that I covered a distance of 23 kilometres. The average fuel consumption during this trip was 18.0 kmpl. It took me a total of 56 minutes to cover this ditance at an average speed of 25 km/h.

Note: You'll notice greek sign of phi in some photographs. This indicates average, rather than current figure, which appears on MFD without phi.


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The Trip 2

The trip 2 provides the average and total figures since I received the car. I have covered a distance of 1142 km at average speed of 29 kmph in 39h 00m. During this period the average fuel consumption has been 16.8 km/l.

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Finally some photos of the interior

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SushilBajpai ,thanks for a excellent first hand ownership report.
You have given a lot of inputs .

Some initial inhibitions about yeti have been laid to rest. We knew that it is a great product.Happy driving .

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I guess the Yeti benefits from the manual 6 speed transmission but the extra weight and 4X4 must surely impact it negatively?
Fuel efficiency will be on the lower side during the first 3000kms. After which it would go up by 10%. Thats the difference I noticed in both Fabia and Laura diesel when they were new.
In one of my trips with sedate driving on Fabia with speed below 100, the fuel consumption it showed was 3.3l/100kms avg. However the fabia was remapped and additional torque probably would have helped here with better driveability. But these are PD are engines.
Incase of Yeti, 4x4 will only come into play when it detects some slip in front wheels. Which is rarely going to happen when driving on the highway or city. Which means the avg will not be much affected due to 4x4 but to negate the extra weight gear ratios are set different which should give better driveability and fuel economy due to short gear ratio in 1-3 gear longer 6th gear ratio compared to superb or laura.

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Great Pics. Will help in understand the extra feature the MID can do
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How is the performance on these during rain? and how's the road noise ?

The tyre has good road grip even in rains. Got to test that as this time the monsoon here was pretty good. The road noise in a Pajero ?? LOL The vehicle makes enough noises for one to notice the tyre noise. On a serious note. There is tyre noise but nothing you cannot live with in an SUV


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Thanks invinsible! the stock tyres supplied with Yeti are GoodYear Excellence, and their ride quality and grip appears pretty good to me. However, I'll keep an eye on the thread you've referred.



Ricky, your advise is well taken. I will monitor the oil. I do appreciate the need for more frequent oil change if the vehicle is run in difficult/dusty conditions. I think I'll take your advise and get the 1st oil change at 7,500 km., and then depending on usage condition of the oil (including the oil consumption rate), I'll figure if I could increase to manufacturers recommended figures.

The Yokohoma Geolanders on my friend's Outlander appear to make lot more road-noise than the stock tyres on Yeti. Is it possible that road noise insulation is poorer in outlander than Yeti.

Great, the oil changes can very well vary from one to another, depending on driving conditions. Delhi / NCR is dusty, taking one look at the Air Filter will tell you how dusty your driving conditions are.

As for the Geolanders, they would sure not qualify as "silent tyres". You OE tyres are possibly tarmac tyres & are less grippy than the Geolanders, so they are bound to be quieter.

Pajero is relatively noisy any which way, the Outlander being a Petrol is much quieter so the road noise would be heard more. Just my opinion.


BTW - nice pictures of your car's interiors !




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Incase of Yeti, 4x4 will only come into play when it detects some slip in front wheels. Which is rarely going to happen when driving on the highway or city. Which means the avg will not be much affected due to 4x4 but to negate the extra weight gear ratios are set different which should give better driveability and fuel economy due to short gear ratio in 1-3 gear longer 6th gear ratio compared to superb or laura.
I don't necessarily agree. Yes, the Yeti's 4X4 is essentially an efficient, dynamic AWD system but there are still drivetrain losses that exist. A 4X4, no matter how efficient, will never be as frugal as a 4X2.

Gear ratios also help make a car feel lighter, but they don't make the car itself lighter.

So when I look at Sushil's MID, I can't help but feel a sense of disbelief! How can this mini SUV get 16+ kmpl when comparable 4x4's from Toyota and Nissan barely manage 10kmpl? and when sister vehicles sporting similar mechanicals can't cross 12kmpl?
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I don't necessarily agree. Yes, the Yeti's 4X4 is essentially an efficient, dynamic AWD system but there are still drivetrain losses that exist. A 4X4, no matter how efficient, will never be as frugal as a 4X2.

Gear ratios also help make a car feel lighter, but they don't make the car itself lighter.

So when I look at Sushil's MID, I can't help but feel a sense of disbelief! How can this mini SUV get 16+ kmpl when comparable 4x4's from Toyota and Nissan barely manage 10kmpl? and when sister vehicles sporting similar mechanicals can't cross 12kmpl?
Well it's not always about 4x4 drive, weight, gear ratio that would affect the fuel economy and driveability. There are other imp bits that come into play like the Engine tech, timing of intake & exhaust valve, fuel mapping plus this VW engine has some additional bits and one of them being the Intake manifold with flab valves which during idling and at low engine speed, the flab valves are closed. This leads to high swirl formation, with results in good mixture formation. During driving operation, the flab valves are adjusted continuously based on load and engine speed. Its no rocket science but some where such bits helps in making the engine more frugal.
There is a lot involved in how the car delivers depending on such tech, which could challenge the laws of physics.

Coming back to the figures that Sushil got, is due to light foot and by carefully selecting the gears. Autocar review mentioned the mileage to be around 16.5 for the highway. I am guessing around 16 to 17 is quite manageable with some light footed driving.

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So when I look at Sushil's MID, I can't help but feel a sense of disbelief! How can this mini SUV get 16+ kmpl when comparable 4x4's from Toyota and Nissan barely manage 10kmpl? and when sister vehicles sporting similar mechanicals can't cross 12kmpl?
The 16+ figure that you are looking is a combination of City driving, highway driving, a trip to and back from Purandar (which has two pretty steep ghat sections), Mahabaleshwar and return, over a total of 1,000 + kilometres. Like I said I get about 15-16 kmph in City and 18-20 kmph on highway. With time the figures might improve a bit - partly because I learn to drive the Yeti better, and partly because the engine and other systems will smoothen out. At least that is my hope.

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Coming back to the figures that Sushil got, is due to light foot and by carefully selecting the gears. Autocar review mentioned the mileage to be around 16.5 for the highway. I am guessing around 16 to 17 is quite manageable with some light footed driving.
I am pretty sure that in time, Yeti would consistently deliver around 20 kmph on highways. I will keep you posted.

Personally we already call it the Green SUV.

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Thanks Sushil for interior pictures, no doubt car looks awesome
Thanks camchennai.

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