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Old 18th December 2010, 21:53   #61
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Right now my FE is 15kmpl combined, hoping to get better this is mostly on account of start and go city traffic, I believe Yeti on high would always be in rage of 16+ kmpl.
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The Yeti has crossed another milestone. It has covered 1,500 km since new. Each day I am more comfortable with Yeti.

The fuel efficiency on highway is positively 20 + kmph, if the speed is kept within a 100 kmph.

Last evening on my way back from Ahmednagar, I passed through several patches of traffic jams. I was getting an average milage of 22.7 kmph. I was stuck in traffice for more than and 45 minutes. And this brought down the FE to 20.2 kmph. The total trip distance was 100 + kilometres.

I have kept the front tyre pressure @ 34 psi and rear tyre pressure @ 38 psi. The ride is comfortable.

I am thinking of installing automatic tyre pressure monitoring system from "Tyrebrobe" together with tyre sealant from "Ride-on". Has anyone used these products and are they useful?

The passengers also find the ride pretty smooth and friendly. However, the way instruments are set in the cluster, the front passenger (occupying the seat next to the driver) cannot see them at all. This is a cause of annoyance for the co-passenger, who would like to atleast know how fast we are moving, particularly because the ride quality does not permit good estimate of the speeds at which the vehicle actually moves. It so quite and smooth.

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The Yeti has crossed another milestone. It has covered 1,500 km since new. Each day I am more comfortable with Yeti.

The fuel efficiency on highway is positively 20 + kmph, if the speed is kept within a 100 kmph.

Last evening on my way back from Ahmednagar, I passed through several patches of traffic jams. I was getting an average milage of 22.7 kmph. I was stuck in traffice for more than and 45 minutes. And this brought down the FE to 20.2 kmph. The total trip distance was 100 + kilometres.
The FE figures looks so unreal! Extremely happy for you, and its great to know that the 4x4 credentials did translate into thirsty manners.
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^^ Achieving this kind of FE is very easy with this engine. Some time back i was cruising on NH-10 in my Laura, i decided to check the FE with sedate driving. For the stretch of 40kms i was able to manage 25kpl cruising at 90-100kph, this also included some overtakings which required kickdown mode. As Yeti shares the same Engine it's also a very efficient too, but it comes with lower gearing and higher weight.
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Sushil,

The FE figures are simply amazing. I also own a Jazz and Yeti is also on my radar for next year.

Just wanted to know as to the ride quality at low speeds in the Yeti since in the Jazz every small pothole is duly brought to attention inside the cabin.
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I am thinking of installing automatic tyre pressure monitoring system from "Tyrebrobe" together with tyre sealant from "Ride-on". Has anyone used these products and are they useful?
I would not recommend adding any electricals to the Yeti. What I have done is to get the Pete's pressure sensitive valve caps. They can be ordered for around INR 600.00 for a set of four and they have color based simple indicators which show if the tire pressure is lesser than normal.
Nothing electric, yet very reliable and simple to read. Here is the link.
Pete's Automotive Products Pvt Limited

Could you pl post a pic with 3 well fed adults sitting in the middle seat. I am somehow not able to imagine the Yeti being comfortable for 3 at the rear.

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I would not recommend adding any electricals to the Yeti. What I have done is to get the Pete's pressure sensitive valve caps. They can be ordered for around INR 600.00 for a set of four and they have color based simple indicators which show if the tire pressure is lesser than normal.
Nothing electric, yet very reliable and simple to read. Here is the link.
Pete's Automotive Products Pvt Limited

Could you pl post a pic with 3 well fed adults sitting in the middle seat. I am somehow not able to imagine the Yeti being comfortable for 3 at the rear.
Sushil,

Belated congrats on your acquisition and thanks for sharing the snaps of the beauty.

Devdath,
Thanks for sharing the link of the valve caps. Unfortunately they don't seem to have these made for Indica Vista. Did not find it in the LOV. One question on these caps if i am permitted to digress from the thread topic. How do we ensure that these are not stolen? With my car parked in public parking area through out the day i see every chance of this happening.

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How do we ensure that these are not stolen? With my car parked in public parking area through out the day i see every chance of this happening.
They dont really stand out in the car so unless someone really knows what he/she wants to steal, I do not think that they will be stolen unless you live in a really vulnerable neighbourhood.

Coming to their availability for the Vista, pl give Pete's a call and they should be able to source them for you.
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They dont really stand out in the car so unless someone really knows what he/she wants to steal, I do not think that they will be stolen unless you live in a really vulnerable neighbourhood.

Coming to their availability for the Vista, pl give Pete's a call and they should be able to source them for you.

Thanks Devdath. Gave them a call. The Air Checkers are not car dependant as such. Depending on the PSI the checkers are available. Would go to the dealer in Pune to check it out.

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I am planning to buy a Skoda Yeti after the budget 2011. Does anyone have any idea about the service and maintenance costs of the yeti. I need information such as how much does it cost for a regular service such as oil change, gear oil change, differential oil change and the cost of the regular running items such as oil cost per litre, oil filter cost, fuel filter cost, brake pads cost, suspension parts cost etc. Further the cost of side mirrors etc is also material.
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Does anyone have any idea about the service and maintenance costs of the yeti. I need information such as how much does it cost for a regular service such as oil change, gear oil change, differential oil change and the cost of the regular running items such as oil cost per litre, oil filter cost, fuel filter cost, brake pads cost, suspension parts cost etc. Further the cost of side mirrors etc is also material. Thanks in advance.
I am amazed at the service schedules for Skoda Yeti. The Engine Oil needs a change only once every 15,000 km. Similarly the recommended change intervals for gear box, differential etc are beyond 60,000 km. I will post the exact service schedule in a couple of days. There appears to be no worry on account of routine maintenance. It may be a different issue in case of accidental damage. But then there is Skoda Shield and Skoda Assure to take care of that.

While I don't have idea about specific costs of various parts that you mention, I understand that the first three services are free, and this includes the parts, oil and labour.

Further if you take Skoda Shield with Skoda Assure, I was told it covers all kinds of damages without any depriciation. I have no idea what is the fine-print. So perhaps someone more familiar with Skoda might like to post here the details.
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I am planning to buy a Skoda Yeti after the budget 2011. Does anyone have any idea about the service and maintenance costs of the yeti. I need information such as how much does it cost for a regular service such as oil change, gear oil change, differential oil change and the cost of the regular running items such as oil cost per litre, oil filter cost, fuel filter cost, brake pads cost, suspension parts cost etc. Further the cost of side mirrors etc is also material.
Thanks in advance.
Using Skoda cars I can give some insight on this. The first 3 services are free which means labour won't be charged. However during the time I took the car I think I had 2 services free.. ( not sure will need to check )
The 1st services will be about changing the oil (Rs.4000), Diesel particle filter, oil filter, air filter and some of the other consumables, all together can expect around 6-7K cost on it.
2nd service cost could go higher, estimated the service to at 25k kms+, adding to the consumables used in 1st service there could addition of brake pad change, brake servicing, brake oil check / change, fuel filter change, battery water, some other bits and can expect it to be around RS.12-14K.

3rd service will also include change of brake oil, gear oil, coolant (advisable), and could upto Rs.10k.
From 4th service onwards one can expect additional cost of 2-3K as labour charge.

NOTE: It is advisable to get the EGR (Exhaust gas recirculation ) Valve cleaning done at every service. If the 1st service is done at 10-12k kms, EGR Valve cleaning will be not be required but if the next service is done as recommended at around 15k kms, make sure to get EGR valve cleaning at every service after this. To get optimum performance and mileage make sure to get this at every service.
Most service advisor will state that its not required but I have always insisted on this.

Most dealers tend to fool customers and charge Rs.2000 for the cleaning however it is part of service in diesel engines and should be taken care of under first 3 service after which dealer will charge the amount.
I was charged for this in my 1st service but after I argued this with service manager it was taken care of under free service and the amount was not billed. Please mention to get the EGR valve cleaned in the Job card and check the bill before making the payment.

Also, Please keep a check of Engine oil level for the first 10k kms at every 2000kms interval.

Here some details on EGR Valve to understand it better.

TDI EGR system FAQ

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NOTE: It is advisable to get the EGR (Exhaust gas recirculation ) Valve cleaning done at every service. If the 1st service is done at 10-12k kms, EGR Valve cleaning will be not be required but if the next service is done as recommended at around 15k kms, make sure to get EGR valve cleaning at every service after this. To get optimum performance and mileage make sure to get this at every service.

Most service advisor will state that its not required but I have always insisted on this.

Most dealers tend to fool customers and charge Rs.2000 for the cleaning however it is part of service in diesel engines and should be taken care of under first 3 service after which dealer will charge the amount.
I was charged for this in my 1st service but after I argued this with service manager it was taken care of under free service and the amount was not billed. Please mention to get the EGR valve cleaned in the Job card and check the bill before making the payment.

Also, Please keep a check of Engine oil level for the first 10k kms at every 2000kms interval.

Here some details on EGR Valve to understand it better.

TDI EGR system FAQ
Thanks, invinsible. I read the link on the EGR valve with interest. I have some observations, and a list of questions.

The Skoda Yeti Manual is confusing as it fails to privide clear guidance on which components may or may not be present in the car.

The section on the Diesel Particle Filter (DPF) is marked with an asterisk in manual. It appears that DPF is part of the efforts to make the compliant with Euro V emission requirements. If the vehicle is compliant with only Euro IV requirements (BS IV) requirements, it appears that DPF might not be present at all.

I have the following questions:

1. Is Yeti compliant with Euro IV or Euro V?

2. If it is compliant to only BS IV (Euro IV), then DPF might not be present. Could this be a possibility?

If the Diesel Particle Filter is indeed present, then the manual cautions about DPF warning that appears due to frequent short trips (without clearly defining short trips).

3. I assume that all trips less than 5 km are short trips. Or is this figure something different?

The user manual for Yeti further suggests the following procedure in event of the warning light coming on:

"In order to clean the diesel particle filter, the vehicle should be driven at an even speed of at least 60 km/h at engine speeds of 1800 - 2500 rpm for at least 15 minutes or until the warning light goes out with the 4th or 5th gear engaged (automatic gearbox: position S) when the traffic situation permits it. This increases the exhaust temperature and the soot deposited in the diesel particle filter is burnt."


Once the DPF is cleaned the warning light is extinguished.

It further cautions that one should expect, higher than usual fuel consumption, while the DPF warning light is active. Should this procedure fail to adequately clean the DPF, the engine shifts to emergency mode and car needs to visit "specialist garage" to get the filter cleaned.

I have following additional questions:

4. Does the Diesel Particle Filter exist on Yeti?

5. Is this also observable in Laura, and whether Laura also has similar caution lights and procedures?

6. In view of the above do we still need to get the DPF serviced every 15,000 km?

7. Would occasionally driving the car at 60 kmph between 1800 - 2500 RPM in 4th of 5th gear for 15-20 minutes keep the filter clean? Should one make it a part of routine car care, and carry out this process say once every 10,000 km? Also wouldn't this happen on its own even during a single highway drive exceeding say a 100 km?

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Yeti is BS IV that is Euro IV, the engine is classified as CLCB which is specific to India, the engine has DPF but their is no lamba sensor that is in Euro V engine, have a look at the Engine Manual page 224 in Exhaust System section and you will get the difference between the Euro V and BSIV engine.
Its anyway advisable to run the engine at higher RPM once in a while.

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PS: The manual I am talking about is workshop manual and Sushil has it!
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Yeti is BS IV that is Euro IV, the engine is classified as CLCB which is specific to India, the engine has DPF but their is no lamba sensor that is in Euro V engine, have a look at the Engine Manual page 224 in Exhaust System section and you will get the difference between the Euro V and BSIV engine.
Its anyway advisable to run the engine at higher RPM once in a while.

-Pramod

PS: The manual I am talking about is workshop manual and Sushil has it!
Thanks Pramod for pointing me right direction.

What kind of diesel do you use in your Yeti. The standard one of premium diesel? Is there any advantage/disadvantage that one type over the other.

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NOTE: It is advisable to get the EGR (Exhaust gas recirculation ) Valve cleaning done at every service. If the 1st service is done at 10-12k kms, EGR Valve cleaning will be not be required but if the next service is done as recommended at around 15k kms, make sure to get EGR valve cleaning at every service after this. To get optimum performance and mileage make sure to get this at every service.
Most service advisor will state that its not required but I have always insisted on this.

Most dealers tend to fool customers and charge Rs.2000 for the cleaning however it is part of service in diesel engines and should be taken care of under first 3 service after which dealer will charge the amount.
I was charged for this in my 1st service but after I argued this with service manager it was taken care of under free service and the amount was not billed. Please mention to get the EGR valve cleaned in the Job card and check the bill before making the payment.

Also, Please keep a check of Engine oil level for the first 10k kms at every 2000kms interval.

Here some details on EGR Valve to understand it better.

TDI EGR system FAQ
I'll ensure that EGR valve is cleaned at every service. It would be interesting if you could share any other issues/tips that you have on other Skodas that run on this engine.

Further does premium diesel help or harm the engine.
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