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Old 3rd January 2012, 10:38   #1441
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^^ You are absolutely correct HVK sir. It is indeed the Aksai Chin area that was captured by china during the '62 war. Also, the area was in news lately because of the incursions by the chinese army into the area. The 'Line of Actual Control' is not clearly marked here, so the chinese take the advantage of this border dispute.

I don't know how true is this but the gentleman at this checkpost at Lukung told us that the chinese also use a submarine in the PangongTso to keep a vigil at India.
I think the incursions were happening in the Fukche-Demchok sector which are further south, on the road branching off from Loma.

Submarines in Pangong? That is something, but I will not be surprised
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Even we were shocked to hear this and laughed it off. But when the info came from an army personnel, I think there must be something. I still have my doubts but then again, PangongTso is massive.
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Day 17
28th August 2011
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After an early rise by 03:00AM, we were all ready to roll soon.

By 04:00AM we started our journey. The plan was to reach Pangong Tso by evening, after scaling Wari La and Chang La.

We passed Thoise airport by 06:00 AM.

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We did not stop by there, we continued on our spirited journey to the most beautiful lake Pangong Tso.

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We moved on steadily. First light of the sun on the horizon, was an amazing feeling.

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We passed Hunder
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We passed Diskit, you can see the Diskit Gompa at a distance
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The view of the river
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Mountains
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We stopped by for some tea at Khalsar by 07:00AM. By then we had completed some drive of about 3 hours and 120Kms

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Beautiful Doggies at Khalsar. IPHE team gave them a lot of biscuits and they loved the sudden surprise breakfast
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You can give your feedabck on roads here.
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We moved on
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We reached the fork by 07:30AM. Left takes us to Agham and further to Wari La. The right takes us back to Khardung La.
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Hey I just have small query. I am not sure if this can be discussed here(classified??), but the thing is thoise is an airstrip mainly for choppers and transport a/c's. But I dont see any blast pens or hangars visible in the airfield. I am quite experienced with AF hangars, have experience working in them personally, so I can spot them, but I couldnt spot many except a couple.
So can the experts enlighten whether they store the choppers here or they just use this as a FLG. Because for an FLG you dont need a full surfaced runway like here. Just confused because recently our AF has been reopening all the forward airbases/airfields for use and hence this question as to whether this was one of those recently renovated ones.

P.S: I am just curious as a military enthusiast/Ex-Air NCC cadet. If the info is classified this post better be ignored and mods may delete it.
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Hey I just have small query. I am not sure if this can be discussed here(classified??), but the thing is thoise is an airstrip mainly for choppers and transport a/c's. But I dont see any blast pens or hangars visible in the airfield. I am quite experienced with AF hangars, have experience working in them personally, so I can spot them, but I couldnt spot many except a couple.
So can the experts enlighten whether they store the choppers here or they just use this as a FLG. Because for an FLG you dont need a full surfaced runway like here. Just confused because recently our AF has been reopening all the forward airbases/airfields for use and hence this question as to whether this was one of those recently renovated ones.

P.S: I am just curious as a military enthusiast/Ex-Air NCC cadet. If the info is classified this post better be ignored and mods may delete it.
It looks like the airfield is still being constructed. We did not sight any fighters there. Only a couple of choppers. I believe that this is used to fly choppers with supplies to Siachen Glacier jawans.
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It looks like the airfield is still being constructed. We did not sight any fighters there. Only a couple of choppers. I believe that this is used to fly choppers with supplies to Siachen Glacier jawans.
Ok then its among the newly renovated ones. These airfields cannot support fighters, as they need longer runways(except Mig 29s) during t/o and landing. Such FLG's are best suited for choppers, force multipliers(An 32 transporters, IL72s or the new c-130JSuper hercules) which dont need finished runways and are capable of landing on unpaved landing strips and airfields. During war, expect these airfields to be very active and will take the hit first and protect the valuable assets deep inside. Also they provide a launch platform for special forces and for quick resupply to forward posts. Anyways, thanks for the clarification sir. Experts correct me, if I am wrong.
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It looks like the airfield is still being constructed. We did not sight any fighters there. Only a couple of choppers. I believe that this is used to fly choppers with supplies to Siachen Glacier jawans.
Apart from the regular supply flights, Thoise also sometimes has civilians flight like jet, KF etc etc chartered by the Army to fly out Jawans going on leave. This helps the jawans to save a few days from their leave just on traveling!!

EDIT: Submarine in Pangong Tso? Seems highly unlikely!!

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HVK & Lalu,
Awaiting further inputs to proceed from Pangong Tso Lake. Your help and guidance is highly appreciated Been waiting with sore fingers to read your further travails.
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HVK & Lalu,
Awaiting further inputs to proceed from Pangong Tso Lake. Your help and guidance is highly appreciated Been waiting with sore fingers to read your further travails.
Will update my part by today night so that HVK can update the next day which includes Pangong Tso for you. I was on a long holiday and was unable to update the logs. The last few posts were from an airport on my return. And as usual on return got tangled with the jobs waiting for me.

Thanks for bearing with me and sorry for your sore fingers
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River and Mountains
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Some views of the roads before we reach Agham
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Our convoy dwarfed by the mountains
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Roads along the river bed
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What do we do in arrow straight roads? Sprint!

HVK Scorpio sprinting - a small luxury at times for the Scorpio
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We reached Agham by 08:00AM
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Diskit is 49 Kilometers and our tea stop Khalsar is 27 kilometers behind
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Shakti is 62 kilometers away
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The beautiful views from Agham
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It was after sometime that we realised that our Swifties are missing.

BolBolero going back in search of the Swifties
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The members waiting at Agham
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This guy appeared out of nowhere
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After 15 minutes Bolbolero came back with our swifties to much of our relief, and we rolled on.

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