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Old 2nd September 2012, 09:35   #376
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And the full Kishtwar-Bairavgad-Sarthal-Kishtwar route map, based on our GPS tracks

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[b]Day 4
26 - July - 2012
We found a homestay
Nalhati Guest House( Vinod Kumar Mob: 9858623638, dbl Rs500)
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We are on a driving holiday which means we drive, not loll around. We reach place A, sleep there, leave at day break for place B.

Did you not like the photos of the landscapes that we drove by to reach Sarthal? And after that? Exactly, that is what a driving holiday is about not to reach a destination, but the journey itself.

No, we have been asked this Q several times before 100 times, No. Holidays do not mean getting up at 9 am, eating, strolling around napping, lunching, napping.....and so on. Our driving holidays are tightly packed with driving action!
(Words in bold) Perfectly put!

When I always look for an option of driving over flights or buses, people think I'm crazy. They ask me why take the effort, "waste" the time in driving when you can opt for a less cheaper and faster alternative via flights. I can not explain the joy of driving, the importance of the journey over the destination.

Sir, hats off to your thoughts on this. If only I could get a chance to join you on your next trip!


One Q - do you only drive the Scorpio because you wouldn't allow anyone else to drive or is that for the trip the roles were clearly defined - @laluks does the photography, and you the driving?
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One Q - do you only drive the Scorpio because you wouldn't allow anyone else to drive or is that for the trip the roles were clearly defined - @laluks does the photography, and you the driving?
With cars, you have a relationship going.
Each to his own.
I do not drive any one else's car. I do not like any one else driving my car.
The driver should understand how the car behaves in all kinds of circumstances, whether it is in emergency braking, tyre grip on wet roads, climbing up & down ghat roads, and so on. Anyone other than the car's "regular" driver will not understand the car as well.
On long drives, a high level of consistency & concentration is required, and a "specialist" on the job is always the best, instead of many persons switching roles to drive. It is always my constant advice to many to avoid frequent changes in drivers where they prefer to drive in relay with their co-passenger (s).

Yes, I always drive my own car and no one else. Even if I am tired, I either stop over or take a short break/ nap.

Lalu loves his photography as much as his driving, but he has to choose which one is more important in a trip like this - and you can see the wisdom in his decision, looking at the photographic output....
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If only I could get a chance to join you on your next trip!
Please get in the queue .

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One Q - do you only drive the Scorpio because you wouldn't allow anyone else to drive
Ninja, the day someone else drives Kumar sir ji's Scorpio, consider that day Judgement Day regardless of the date .
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Nalhati Guest House( Vinod Kumar Mob: 9858623638, dbl Rs500)

Romin went inside, met the owner, checked out rates & found the place good-looking. Looks like a nice place to stay close to Bhaderwah.
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I normally do not drive other's cars unless in absolutely necessary conditions. I trust the car with its owner driver than with me. I will never ever know the vehicle as much as they know it. Also that is a relationship, which I do not want to tresspass. Also I never let anyone drive my car.

In IPHE 2011, I was asked to drive one of the swifts, since the owner wanted to fulfill his dream of riding a bike to Khardung La. I agreed since I own a swift and I know the vehicle dynamics. Else I would have flatly refused.

Also my intention in such trips is not to drive, but to capture the essence of the place. I am happy behind the camera than behind the wheels.

This has worked out ever since we have done Humblehd 1 in 2009. This is also one reason that me and HVK tend to travel together. He is passionate about driving, finding new places and keeping the time and schedule intact. And I am passionate about finding new places, capturing the moment and being on such drives. So our passion had already defined our roles.

I do have my fair share of driving holidays, you can check my logs for them too
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Day 5
27 - July - 2012

Today we have to drive all the way to Srinagar. We have all got ready as to start by the first light. We were out packing the bags by 05:00AM.

Outside the window I see a nice huge mansion

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Is this a castle?
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Is it some rich man's mansion in Kishtwar?
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I was intrigued. I checked with the hotel guys.

It's the central prison of Kishtwar
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We were ready by 05:30AM
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Hotel Kishtwar - no wazwan here, just city food
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Information about Machail Matha yathra
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Madam Safari all set to go
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We drove on towards Srinagar
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Beautiful roads
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Some bad patches
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Sinthan Top is another 73KMs away

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With cars, you have a relationship going.
Each to his own.
Can not disagree to this.

For a driving + camera enthusiast like me, I guess I have to look for a mixed solution. Generally I give my car only to a close circle, whom I know I can trust to understand the car perfectly.

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Please get in the queue .
Ninja, the day someone else drives Kumar sir ji's Scorpio, consider that day Judgement Day regardless of the date .
Lol. I wonder how big is the queue.


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I am happy behind the camera than behind the wheels.
What a perfect combination for you guys.

Even on this thread, that combination makes a perfect duo - @HVK posts details more focused on the locations, driving conditions, and other aspects; you provide the pictorial view!

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I do have my fair share of driving holidays, you can check my logs for them too
Ah! Don't I know them! Been through several of them - infact when I get time, I keep digging old theads of yours. And IMO, yours' are not driving holidays/threads, instead they are photo-blogging holidays/threads



But then I digress you guys from the actual thread! Please continue!
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Day 5
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We were very near the Sangam
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We drove on
- roads were good and bad on and off
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Nice drive
- but we had to stop soon. Romin was not feeling well. His tummy did not like Hotel Kishtwar's city food.
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Agent Vinod rushes with some ginger dried in lemon
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HVK Scorpio
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Very very valid point

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Mynahs ?
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Farming amidst the mountains
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Agent Vinod check out his boys - highly classified mission
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Some settlement en route

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Agent Vinod has fans where ever he goes
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A peak
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The roads starts climbing towards Sinthan Pass
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Slushy too - the Yokos sliced the mud like a knife through cake
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With cars, you have a relationship going.
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I do not drive any one else's car. I do not like any one else driving my car.
Its ok as far as driving is concerned but in one of the pics I have seen you writing the logs while driving. Its really difficult to write while driving especially when you are on highway. Do you write all the logs yourself?
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