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Old 1st October 2009, 16:05   #136
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these pics/video should be used as advertisements by Mahindra intheir new campaign......also mitsubishi should start a driving school for training their "well heeled" clients in off-roading highlighting their limitations
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BTW I noticed another dangerous thing. You are using unweighted rope to pull out. If the rope snaps, it can damage your vehicle, and injure the bystanders dangerously!
This is not to be done!

Always put a jacket or something on the tow strap while towing!
Exactly. Everybody was so close to the tow ropes.
I guess one rope broke, or may be I just felt so, the video can bring the full details.

Since the discussion on the pajero started here, I'll put up my balcony photos here tonight.

I also do have a video, but I must figure out how to compress and put it up here.
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Old 1st October 2009, 16:11   #138
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Post video to youtube. Then post link here. No need to bother with compression etc., then
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Old 1st October 2009, 16:45   #139
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these pics/video should be used as advertisements by Mahindra intheir new campaign......also mitsubishi should start a driving school for training their "well heeled" clients in off-roading highlighting their limitations
Bolero Ad material on this thread

http://www.team-bhp.com/forum/test-d...vlx-india.html
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Before going any further regarding the Mahindra / Pajero talks, and all praises to self

Any vehicle is as good as the driver who drives it, and also your lucky stars - Period.
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Before going any further regarding the Mahindra / Pajero talks, and all praises to self

Any vehicle is as good as the driver who drives it, and also your lucky stars - Period.
+1 to that.

Its all in driving skills. But more than that, knowing your own limitations is what is required the most.
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AB, I was pulling Mandars leg, about driving following the chief!!

Tso Morriri drive in thenight I definitely agree.
oh don't get me started about following, or more appropriately trying to follow, chief [hvk]'s car. i've tried doing it on the traffic-heavy eastern express highway from chembur to thane [mumbai] and i tried doing it on the dusty roads of ladakh. in one word- impossible!

it was only the next morning on our way back, when we saw that road in daylight, did we realize what kind of a wild ride it'd really been!

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these pics/video should be used as advertisements by Mahindra intheir new campaign......also mitsubishi should start a driving school for training their "well heeled" clients in off-roading highlighting their limitations
Anirudha, i think this will be a good time to mention about the corporate "support" that we got from M&M! why should we give OUR fotos & videos to them for THEIR advertisement?!


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Some balcony and front row pictures from me
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The Pajero got stuck at 2.40PM and was pulled out by 3.20PM

Video coming soon.
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oh don't get me started about following, or more appropriately trying to follow, chief [hvk]'s car. i've tried doing it on the traffic-heavy eastern express highway from chembur to thane [mumbai] and i tried doing it on the dusty roads of ladakh. in one word- impossible!

it was only the next morning on our way back, when we saw that road in daylight, did we realize what kind of a wild ride it'd really been!
Impossible ?? Driving or Following??
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Old 1st October 2009, 18:08   #145
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Btw did anybody take pictures/video of me trying to do donuts ?
@Mandar: I know what you are saying. I'll start a new thread on that tomorrow on what not to expect from Auto Companies

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Btw did anybody take pictures/video of me trying to do donuts ?
Yes I have.
Oh now I know what you were doing.
I thought you went crazy with AMS
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Now since the Pajero pull out drama has become a hot topic, let me break the suspense.
I have the full video coverage, but it will take sometime to process and upload. I don't even have a YouTube account yet!
However, I have captured the actual and final pullout shots from my video. There were few failed attempts before this one. I have the videos for those too.

Lalu/Tsk,
I too had the same observation. The rope did not seem to be strong enough to pull out the Pajero. If I can believe what I saw in the video, the rope from MileCruncher's Bolero broke towards the end of pull out attempt, and Vishal's Scorpio ended up pulling out the Pajero.


The last attempt. Both Bolero and Scorpio revving hard. Both ropes are firm
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The crowd gives hand to Vishal's Scorpio seeing the progress he making
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Scorpio takes a leap and the Pajero starts rolling. Bolero's rope broke and hanging down
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The front wheel of Pajero is out and now Scorpio can do own its own. MileCruncher's Bolero resting after the rope is broke or loose.
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Its done.
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My observation is that the Scorpio's horse power and some of our men's muscle power pulled the Pajero from the deep trouble.

MileCruncher, I don't underestimate your effort. You did a great job in pulling Vishal's Scorpio just before this one. Also your first few efforts with Pajero was remarkable.



Also few balcony shots from my camera
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Saji, you meant to say the Lone Bolero infact never pulled out the Pajero!! I have no words!!
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Now since the Pajero pull out drama has become a hot topic, let me break the suspense.
I have the full video coverage, but it will take sometime to process and upload. I don't even have a YouTube account yet!
You don't need one. If you have a Gmail/Google account, it will work.

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Lalu/Tsk,
I too had the same observation. The rope did not seem to be strong enough to pull out the Pajero. If I can believe what I saw in the video, the rope from MileCruncher's Bolero broke towards the end of pull out attempt, and Vishal's Scorpio ended up pulling out the Pajero.
I think what was required was a high amount of torque/pulling force to get the Pajero rolling. Two cars provided that. Plus I think becaus eof the torque mis match from both the vehicle and both the vhiels not being in parallel was reason for cord snapping.



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MileCruncher, I don't underestimate your effort. You did a great job in pulling Vishal's Scorpio just before this one. Also your first few efforts with Pajero was remarkable.


No worries mate! To be honest I never expected the Bolero to pull out a Scorpio, let alone a Pajero and was quite surprised when I was able to pull out Vishal's Scorp. Plus if you remember I had the Bolero's owner bearing down on me to be careful with the storm.

Now please some one post by Donut pictures
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On talking to the pajero guy, he mentioned that he came in fast to the dunes in 2WD and tried to engage the 4WD, by that time he sunk completely. But instead of assessing he again accelerated digging the entire pajero in.

4WD experts can comment what went wrong. I am new to these terms :(
Tanveer has summed it up well below, in addition:
Always ensure 4wd before you hit the sand. Lower air pressure to approx 10-15psi.
If you stop in the sand, do so on an incline, preferably with nose down or a slant atleast. Excess throttle only digs you in further.
While offroading in sand momentum is the key.



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Okay, first of all, you do not engage 4WD after getting stuck. you engage 4WD before going on the dunes.

That said, sand is tricky, seemingly easy sand track and be a deep sand trap.
Golden rule of sand, never spin the wheels, all you will do is churn the track.

BTW I noticed another dangerous thing. You are using unweighted rope to pull out. If the rope snaps, it can damage your vehicle, and injure the bystanders dangerously!
This is not to be done!

Always put a jacket or something on the tow strap while towing!
I fully agree that you ought to weight the tow rope before towing.

This is one rocking trip.
Cheers,
Jay
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