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Old 12th October 2009, 01:54   #286
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Great info out there in your posts HVK! So whats the next trip you have in mind??
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Great info out there in your posts HVK! So whats the next trip you have in mind??
Adc, you set tough targets! Everytime you go on your trips, you discover something new - I am yet to drive to some of those wonderful places in Sikkhim that you explored earlier this year!

This year has been good so far - covered the Eastern Himalayas (Bengal, Sikkhim, Bhutan, Arunachal) in April, the Northern Himalayas (Kashmir/Ladakh, Himachal) in September, so now if I cover the Central Himalayas (Uttarakhand), I guess I will have the satisfaction of seeing the entire Indian Himalayas in the same year! But alas, I also have to work for a living and the winter snows are closing down in the Char Dam circuit (a revisit of my 2005 trip)!
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Day 10, September 21st, 2009 Continued
Tso Morriri.


We reached Tso Morriri by 16:00PM.

HVK at Tso Morriri. We all liked Tso Morriri more than Pangong Tso.
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Village as seen from Tso Morriri
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We booked tents at the Nomadic lifestyle camp.
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They provided hot and sumptuous dinner. The night temperatures were below zero, and the winds blowing heavily. We stuffed ourselves with jackets and inners and buried under the two blankets provided. This was indeed a night to remember. I am sure I never slept, very other moment due to the cold I was pulling and tucking the blankets.



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Old 12th October 2009, 02:18   #289
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I am yet to drive to some of those wonderful places in Sikkhim that you explored earlier this year!
Oh those places still etch our memories and will continue to do so for long. Pretty sure you will be heading off next year for those lands! North Sikkim, like Ladakh, is not to be missed and should be done at least once.

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This year has been good so far - covered the Eastern Himalayas (Bengal, Sikkhim, Bhutan, Arunachal) in April, the Northern Himalayas (Kashmir/Ladakh, Himachal) in September, so now if I cover the Central Himalayas (Uttarakhand), I guess I will have the satisfaction of seeing the entire Indian Himalayas in the same year!
Absolutely, for you it was quite a bit of driving to the mountains this year. Me trying desperately to fix up things to attempt Tawang this year, December end. We expect lots of snow and absolute coldness! I recall you rode to Tawang on your bike long back.

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Well, sadly, the Dothguling Guest House in Tangtse was woefully inadequate with shared toilets, no hot water and poor service.
Seriosly, it was quite inadequate, with no water -forget hot water

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At Mahe, we say goodbye to the “China road” – leading to the border and out of bounds for civilians
Is this the road to Hanle and Kyun tso the twin lake? Could you elaborate on these routes?

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we go into steep ascent to an unnamed “la”,
I saw someone referring it as Namshang La - does it mean the La with no name?
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Why do we like mountains, rivers, rocks, snow, waterfalls? ... Because they don't make us angry. See link:

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Sorry for this OT post ... but it has important lessons for any happy teamwork!

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wow beautiful pics and narration by all.

BTW I think ascent problem at Wari La is mostly attributed to vehicle issue, because we did not faced any issue where car had trouble climbing, though there were sections where 1st gear run was required.
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wow beautiful pics and narration by all.

BTW I think ascent problem at Wari La is mostly attributed to vehicle issue, because we did not faced any issue where car had trouble climbing, though there were sections where 1st gear run was required.
That day except for HVKs vehicle others faced a lack in pull. HVK coolly went up in 2nd and 3rd gears as per him.

May be less air on that particular day. Or probably we were one vehicle behind the other, the slow momentum made it feel bad. It felt as if that it was a breathing problem.

HVK's was a turbo, others CRDE ?? If I recollect the report of HVK for the day in Leh where they met M&M guys, he has mentioned that their high altitude tests are done at around 4000m. In all probability the extrapolation to this high altitude, combined with less oxygen could have played the spoil sport on that day. May be on a day with more oxygen like your example, it would have behaved differently.

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HVK's was a turbo, others CRDE ?? If I recollect the report of HVK for the day in Leh where they met M&M guys, he has mentioned that their high altitude tests are done at around 4000m. In all probability the extrapolation to this high altitude, combined with less oxygen could have played the spoil sport on that day. May be on a day with more oxygen like your example, it would have behaved differently.
Ours is also Turbo, does it has something to do with less fuel supply on steep incline, I heard this in CRDe's

Here a little teaser from Wari-La top, I have halted my log foe some time, to read through so many LehLogs going on right now.
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Ours is also Turbo, does it has something to do with less fuel supply on steep incline, I heard this in CRDe's

Here a little teaser from Wari-La top, I have halted my log foe some time, to read through so many LehLogs going on right now.
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Hey you guys are the snow guys. Scorp looks cool in your pic.
Why did you clean all the snow and did not leave anything for us?

Its to do with less air supply. With CRDE, the ecu will calculate the right amount of fuel for that situation. But since it was only tested till 4000m, on higher altitude it would be an extrapolation. Turbo is different.
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Is this the road to Hanle and Kyun tso the twin lake? Could you elaborate on these routes?
Yes, that indeed is the road to Hanle (Hanle is around 80 kms from that point), almost the end of the road. Nyoma also falls somewhere on that route (never been on it), and that is where a new airfield is being built to combat aggressive and hostile Chinese intentions in the region. I don't know about Kyon Tso - wow, that area itself should be a trip in itself. I think Tanveer has done full justice to it during his recent trip.


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I saw someone referring it as Namshang La
That is useful info, because I did not notice any sign boards and the detailed geographical maps of the region also surprisingly do not bear any reference to it.

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Leh where they met M&M guys, he has mentioned that their high altitude tests are done at around 4000m. In all probability the extrapolation to this high altitude, combined with less oxygen could have played the spoil sport on that day. May be on a day with more oxygen like your example, it would have behaved differently.

Yes, I ran into M&M guys in the workshop at Leh and they were mentioning that the Scorpio ECUs are calibrated for a maximum altitude for 4,000 metres, which means that the ECU may not be handle rarefied air beyond that altitude - but I have no really no idea what the facts are. Surprisingly, the crde Scorpios appeared to struggle that day to Wari La. Or like laluks says, maybe there was some less-oxygen effect that day.
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Seriosly, it was quite inadequate, with no water -forget hot water


Is this the road to Hanle and Kyun tso the twin lake? Could you elaborate on these routes?


I saw someone referring it as Namshang La - does it mean the La with no name?
Yes its Namshang La. But no signboard says so. Same case as Wari La

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Yes, that indeed is the road to Hanle (Hanle is around 80 kms from that point), almost the end of the road. Nyoma also falls somewhere on that route (never been on it), and that is where a new airfield is being built to combat aggressive and hostile Chinese intentions in the region. I don't know about Kyon Tso - wow, that area itself should be a trip in itself. I think Tanveer has done full justice to it during his recent trip.
Actually for Kyun Tso you take a diversion from Nyoma. Or you can go Hanle and attempt from there. The route is very tough, and recent rains had caused landslides etc., We did not have time to attempt Kyun Tso
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wow beautiful pics and narration by all.

BTW I think ascent problem at Wari La is mostly attributed to vehicle issue, because we did not faced any issue where car had trouble climbing, though there were sections where 1st gear run was required.
Even though mine is a CRDe I with full load had quite a bit of 1st gear upto 3000 RPM runs
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