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Old 30th June 2010, 12:47   #106
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Sanjay will get to that for sure. It would be interesting routing and also completely new areas for explorations. Should be also able to give you GPS tracks.
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Old 30th June 2010, 14:51   #107
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Once the scrutiny was over and we completed our dinner on penultimate night before the rally the madness began. Sitting in the hotel lobby were the "experts" and "novices" (like my navi Alka) exchanging techniques and methods of calculating time speed distance computation so that they come out with least penalties.

Remember going in early earns you twice the penalties than going in late. So if you are 20 seconds late you get 20 seconds as penalties but if you are early by that much you get 40 seconds penalties!!

Earlier in the day I had declared that we will do the rally without aid of GPS or special rally computer this had ensued:

Alka: Why? We got GPS
Me: So what we will simply not use it
Alka: This makes me do lots of calculations
Me: So you are good at math
Alka: Just because I beat you in graduate and school scores does not mean you will get back at me always
Me: Nahin yaar, its simple. We are out here to enjoy
Alka: So why not just enjoy?
Me: Aab to declare kar diya. It gives us a fighting chance to win.

Each expert had an advice on how to do this and here the rush to learn every trick ensured that we were up till almost 2300hrs. We learnt how to do time entry and how to use constant function and .. and ...

We had packed our GPS etc. in a bag and left it in custody of fellow competitor who was already using GPS. If we use GPS the penalties are increased by 25%

Late night we slumped in to our beds with alarm set to wake us up at 0300hrs. We had to report at start point at 0400hrs!!
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Old 30th June 2010, 16:34   #108
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Dear Sudev Ji,

I have joined very late, but your thread is "________". see I have no words to say. I have heard from my brother that some rally officials were here in Sangrur few days back, now I think those must be Moghul rally competitors.

Sir after reading your thread I am fan of both of you. Congrats and please post as early as possible, because we also want to enjoy this visual journey of mughal road.

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Old 30th June 2010, 16:56   #109
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BTW.. I am participating in Raid De Himalaya (Adventure) in a gypsy.. what kind of Navigation system you suggest.. Terratrip or GPS based etc. Please help.

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Old 30th June 2010, 18:58   #110
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BTW.. I am participating in Raid De Himalaya (Adventure) in a gypsy.. what kind of Navigation system you suggest.. Terratrip or GPS based etc. Please help.
why not start a new thread for this so that others may also contribute
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Old 1st July 2010, 07:14   #111
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Default Some pictures before we start leg 1

The iconic picture of the Moughal Road Rally shows one of the numerous "sarai's" built on the route for use by travellers:
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Freshly laid tarmac is such a pleasure to drive, if only the entire Moughal Road was like this:
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Enroute to Kashmir. As you near the valley the abundance of streams and greenery becomes apparent:
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The sights on entry into valley takes your breath away. Scene as you descend from the Jwahar Tunnel:
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Sudevji, could you please chart out on the map the Mughal Route and how and where it passes from viz- a viz the normal NH-1 between Jammu & Srinagar
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All in good time MileCruncher....
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Old 1st July 2010, 20:42   #114
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Hi Sudev ji and Alka ji

even though i have never been in a car rally, i have always been facinated by the car rallys. your log is going great, i am actually feeling that i am with you in your vehicle.

i am sure you will drive me (and other readers) safe, in time without much penalty to the finish line with some thrill, excitement, enjoyment.
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Old 1st July 2010, 21:57   #115
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.....ring ring ring ring...
The phone alarm woke us up at 0330hrs and quickly we dressed and dashed out of the room. Stepping outside the hotel lobby we were greeted by pouring rain!!

Should not have been a problem but for the fact that our cars were parked in "parc ferme" (PF) near the starting point. PF is set up for all rallies and every competitor has to get his car in to the PF before a specified time else it leads to penalties and / or fines and / or exclusion!

Last night the car had been deposited at PF before 2000hrs and we had an after dinner stroll back of about half a kilometre from Royal Springs Golf Course (the start venue) and Centaur Hotel (the night stay). Now in pouring rain this was going to be a different cup of tea.

A view of immaculately maintained Golf Course:
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Called up the official who was in charge of the accommodations (poor guy must have slept much past midnight but such is official's plight) to check if they had any arrangements to transport us.
ring ring ring ring...A sleepy voice answers....
H e l l o
Shekhu, good morning (hah how could it be if you get disturbed) this is Sudev
Haan Sudev (He knows me because in past I have been part of official team)
Yaar its pouring outside and our cars are in parc ferme..
Haan, you have to be there by 0400hrs...that is now
I know but will get drenched walking it, do you have any vehicle to help us get there?
At this time?? No!
But there are almost all the participants here in the lobby...
Let me see what I can do but impossible for me to get a taxi or anything at this hour!
Okay just tell the start we will be a bit late and I am praying that rain stops.
Okay...(phone gets slammed)

Anyways it turns out one of the participants family is staying in nearby hotel and his Innova will be at hotel in couple of minutes. So we all request him to transport us in batches....and also by the time he makes four five trips the rains splutters out.

While we wait at the start there atmosphere is rife with speculation what rain would mean at the top of Sinthan pass, the highest point we cross today. Predictions range from snow to sleet to slush.

View of sign board at Sinthan Pass coming from the valley:
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And same while going towards the valley:
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@StarVegabond : Thanks for words of appreciation.
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Old 1st July 2010, 23:14   #116
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Thumbs up @#$%^& !!!

Sudev Sir, too bad.. too bad. I enjoyed this thread so much, I spent the past 1 hour on going through all the posts... ab kal ka case study kaun padega ???

Verrrryyy nice... and what makes it special is that the thread shows two perspectives... yours and Alkaji's.

Keep going Sirji.

And yes... * * * * * for the thread.
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Sudev boss and Alka maam, first three cheers to you both. This will be a wonderful rally thread. I am hooked

I am sure you will list down the changes done to your GV for the rally
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@rkbharat: Incredibly no changes. It was stock with new set of tyres. And some velcro tape on dash to hold fast the calculator etc.

@hotstuff: Thanks for the inspiration. Cute red devil.
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Car #01, the first car, is flagged off at precise 0500hrs with a roar of modified exhaust and then every two minutes the next one. There were total of 12 Extreme and 21 Enduro starters.We are #22.

At the start we are given the time card. This lists the speeds that we have to maintain in each section. To start with we need to maintain 40.85kmph till TC#2. After we start we need to be on lookout for a TC and not miss it in any circumstance. That will attract heavy penalties. A TC will look like this:
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TC?? Time control. Not a problem if it is on a lonely road like this but if it is cunningly located in middle of town or traffic it can be a PITA. And there is space for 10 TC's on the time card.

Extreme guys have two stages for the day and cover the same route as us. Linking the two stages are long transport sections. For us, Enduro, the competition is from start to end, the whole day. TC#1 is the start and most likely TC#10 is the end. And some where out there are those other 8 TC's.

Problem is that we do not know where is TC#2. It is somewhere on the road that we have to follow using road book. Road book lists series of instructions giving distance of each to 10metre accuracy from the start. Our odo can at best give us 100metre reading and that too non too accurately. And we do not have GPS to give us exact distance read outs....

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A TC will look like this:

TC?? Time control. Not a problem if it is on a lonely road like this but if it is cunningly located in middle of town or traffic it can be a PITA. And there is space for 10 TC's on the time card.
So, you're slowly building up the suspense, hmmm...

Itna bhi nakko satao na!
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Ok, i can understand the Kinley carton in the TC van, but what are those eggs doing there? Do they live out of that van? How long?
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