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Old 12th July 2010, 12:32   #76
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1. Enroute to the famous sisters! Is she / he a cousin? And a name?

2. You can see both the bridges where the river flows into the sea, right. So the tip is - one of them was in the news a few years back.

3. Most of us in this thread have travelled down this road! I call it the Gateway to the West
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Kadalundi bridge in Malappuram - KL!
Jeev and MX have got it right. Kadalundi bridge was in news because a few years ago, the bridge collapsed during rains. The entire traffic between Shoranur and Calicut ground to an halt!

#1 - Waterfall enroute to Jog (from Honnavar). But I have no idea about the name / exact location etc.

#3 - Hubli bypass. This is a two laned stretch which will take you off NH4 for about 30 odd kms - but very much worth it!

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Awesome pics Prabhu. Thanks for sharing these beautiful pics.
You are welcome, buddy!
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Old 12th July 2010, 12:36   #77
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Here's some info about Chandramouleeshwara and Anantheshwara temple.

The temple bang opposite of Srikrishna mutt main entrance is Chandramouleeswara temple. What you see there hidden amongst shops is the side entrance. The main entrance is further towards left when you look at chandramouleeswara from in front of the krishna mutt temple entrance tower.
Normally people enter through the smaller entrance as it's convenient.

The other temple called Anantheshwara temple is supposed to be the Adi temple of Udupi 1000 years back, before Dwaitha philosophy found it's roots. Incidentally, Dwaitha philosophy wasn't epicentered in Udupi till Madhwa took over the reins and installed Krishna there and set up the mutt.
Now Anantheshwara is called as Madanantheshwara temple by strict followers of Dwaitha. People go to Anantheshwara temple on Mondays to light up the oil lamp (oil available for as low as 2 rs from outside shops).
And people also go on Saturdays to Krishna mutt to light up the lamp for Praneshwara also known as Hanuman!
There's a Purandara Dasa song which captures Udupi and these temples.
He sings
I saw the sea and I had an ablution there,
Then I prostrated at the feet of Chandramouleeshwara
After that I got the darshan of Anantheshwara
Singing praise of Hanumantha, who I cherish in my mind
I had a hearty darshan with my eyes, that of Krishna

I saw the river that goes around
And I saw the rays of the sun
And I also saw the Madhwa Sarovara that was there
I saw the seers of the 8 mutts there
And I saw the famous Udupi Srikrishna

I saw the Krishna who dances to the beats Dindhimi dhimi,
wearing his rings, Navaratna necklace and other paraphernalia,
And to his lotus feet, Purandhara vithala bows!
I had a hearty darshan of Krishna with my eyes!

Beautiful composition set to Raaga Behaag.

About the Kadalundi bridge. The train mangalore mail lost 4 of it's compartments which were eaten up by the swelling seas, when the bridge gave way. One of them included a ladies compartment resulting loss of lives of women and children. Allegedly over 500 locals jumped in to assist the search operations for survivors.
Over 6 years back I was in the engine of the same train between Tellichery and Cannanore.

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Old 12th July 2010, 12:45   #78
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Day 3 dawned at Hotel Sharada International, Udupi.

The idea was to visit Manipal to get a feel of the counselling process and take a look at the infrastructure etc.

Had woken up early and was greeted with a site like this!

Ominous weather clouds - and did they open up. A picture is worth a 1000 words, but my poor point&shoot doesn't do justice to nature.

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See how the rains have blotted out the above vista?

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Enroute to Mainpal, halted at Udupi Krishna Math - more elaborate visit was planned for the next day.
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MX6, what is the original Kannada song, give me at least the first line. I wonder what raaga was used by Purandara Dasa. He was after all the pioneer of the system.
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Super pictures Prabhu sir.

Samurai & MX6 you guys are just filling this thread with your encyclopedic gyaan. Fantastic stuff for people like me who have zilch knowledge on such subjects! Keep it coming please.


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Don't apologise - the picture is superb. Love how your bike looks.

And, great minds think alike...

The picture proves it!
LoL. Thank you for the lovely comments!

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Old 12th July 2010, 13:09   #81
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Kannare kandena Krishnana - is how normally it's started with a small aalap of Raag Behaag.
The song goes like Samudravana kandu, Snanava maadi.
It's very difficult to find the original raagas put my Purandara Dasa. Most of his works were found by doyens like ML Vasanthakumari (known as MLV) and she went around recomposing them in Raagas alluring for Daasara padas.

Incidentally, there's a place in Sagara Taluk, enroute to Tirthahalli, called Kshemapura. That's where Navakoti Narayana aka srinivas Nayak was born who later became Purandara Dasa! Whew.

Thanks Praful. But all original thanks to VRP who has been kind enough to let me write things I know in his log.

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An forgotten historical aspect of coastal Karnataka is the martial tradition. Until I was 30, I used to think I came from an agricultural community. Hence, my relatives used to chide my interest in martial arts since I was a teenager. Around 1999, I was researching something about Kalaripayattu and to my shock I found that my community had the same background. In fact Kerala Kalari experts used to come to my native district for advanced studies. Even now, the most advanced form of kalari training is called Tulunadan.

Reproduced from a kerala travel website:

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The Ballads of North Malabar and several Teyyam Tottam songs make frequent references to the migration of combatants from Malabar for short periods to Tuluva, (present South Kanara district) for advanced training in the use of weaponry and physical flexibility. It is described in these primary sources that the eighteenth atavu or tactics based on throwing sand on the rival's eyes by the quick action of shield and feet known as poozhikkatakam was a major specialisation of Tulunad. Some of the Malabar heroes who had mastered this skill were Tacholi Othenan, Chandu and Matiloor Gurukkal.

Heroes like Koti and Chennayya, vividly described in the Tulupaddanas or heroic songs, who probably belonged to the first half of the seventeenth century, are still propitiated in the bhuta cult of the region. These worship centres were known by the term garadi which denoted a gymnastic centre as derived from Khaloorika, a Sanskrit term for such an institution. There are hundreds of such garadies in Udupi, Karkala and Belthangadi. An association has been recently organised by name, Tulunadu Garadi SamskritikaAdyayana. During the medieval period, the garadies were advanced centres of training in physical culture and weaponry. However after the British occupation of Kanara in 1799, the garadi as an institution, lost its significance. The garadi tradition and its cultural heritage were completely destroyed under the colonial system. Ajudgement in a civil litigation before the District Munsiffof Uduppi in 1892, states:

"This family has got in addition to the family house, a building calledgardi. It contains an image of Chandrika Parameshuari Ammaa goddess, in one room and that of Veerabhadra in the other room. These two rooms are said to be situated within a spacious hall which contains a small round pillar. It is said that the ancestors of this family exhibited their athletic performances here, and that the above mentioned pillar was used in former times for their gymnastic exercises." (Dyamu Shettithi and others Devappa Naneya, 0. S. 35811892, dt. 8.7.1893;from the collections of S.A. Krishniah, R.R. C.M G.M College, Uduppi).

The presence of idols made it into a shrine. Even the revival of the garadies did not restore them as centres of training in physical conditioning. Most of them are now owned by the Bunts, the Billavas, the Pujaries and the Vaidyas. When the region of Kerala had revived the Kalari system, its Tulu counterpart; the garadi, had lost its heritage as a centre of gymnastics. The cult of Koti and Chennayya is being popularised now, through the garadies. However, in the pre-colonial period, the Tuluva region had established its name and fame as an advanced centre of martial training. The northern parts of Kerala had established frequent contacts with the Tuluva region and the Malayala Chekons or fighters, created fear in the minds of opponents there.
The minor kings (mostly Jains ) who ruled around Tulunadu (current Udupi/D.K/Kasargodu districts) didn't have the financial resources to maintain a full time army. Instead, they relied on militia. They gave land to soldiers and allowed them to live and prosper on those lands, on the condition that they fight for the king in time of war. Basically peace time farmers and war time soldiers. That means they had to regularly practice their war craft along with farming.

Bunt families generally practiced in family owned Home Garadi (private gym) and Billavas practiced in Grama Garadi (public village gym). After the fall of Tippu Sultan in 1799, the entire south west coastal belt fell into British hands. As they came around disbanding local armies, they were puzzled to find no army in this area. Finally they figured the local arrangement and started shutting down Garadis. However, these garadis also housed the local deities, just like Kerala Kalaris. Unlike the Portuguese, the British didn't want to mess around with local religion. Those of you who have read Jules Verne 19th century classic Around the world in 80 days would remember how Detective Fix could get Passepartout arrested for insulting the local religion by wearing shoes in the temple. So they confiscated the arms and instructed the locals not to practice martial arts anymore. However, they encouraged the use of Garadi as a pure deity worship place.

This erasing of our cultural history was so complete, not even my grand mother remembers anything about our martial background, although one of her cousin's house is known as garadi mane, she didn't know why it was called so. However, I continued to talk to older relatives and one of them recalled some family story about somebody who died while practicing sword fight at home. But he was not sure why they used to practice sword at home. Finally I was able to track down that detailed research study Tulunadu Garadigala Samskritika Adyayana from a Mangalore college and now I have complete photocopy of that document which explains so many things about my cultural background which is unknown to my older relatives.

The Grama Garadis became pure temples, the Home Garadi became just houses. If you visit garadis these days, you'll notice all the weapons, which are kept there purely for worship. You will also notice Garuda kamba, which looks exactly like the Mallakhamb pole, which was used for exactly that purpose.

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The Mallakhamb tradition of Maharashtra was supposedly invented by Balambhattdada Deodhar sometime between 1800 to 1810. So it is strange to see Mallakhamb poles in Tulunad garadis that pre-dates 1800. Look at the mention of pillar in the above quoted document.

History can be very fascinating stuff...

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Nice pictures there vrprabhu, seems like you had the real stress buster. Seems like you had the real chill of monsoon .

Happy to see you love your Palio but as you said normal petrol in KA expensive than speed in MH and that keeps my Thirsty traveller Palio away from many long drives these days.
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Day 3 dawned at Hotel Sharada International, Udupi.

The idea was to visit Manipal to get a feel of the counselling process and take a look at the infrastructure etc.

I had been to Manipal in June 2010 after approx 10 years. Man, things have changed drastically. What was one a small nice educational town is now a full fledged concrete jungle. The only good thing is that the roads are widened (at the cost of trees). Was very surprised to see a broad Kalsanka junction compared to the small road/junction that it was earlier.
Somewhat didn't like the way Manipal is right now. Looks too commercial (not that it was not earlier ). Liked it the old way when I studied.

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Default Fascinating stuff...

Fascinating stuff, MX6 & Samurai.

See what happens when you are involved - this thread is turning out to be nice train of thought / facts on history, unknown / little know / hidden gems. Keep it coming - I love it. And, I am sure, so are the others reading this thread.

May be, time to start which can be dedicated to Dakshin Kannada, by merging all the info here? all can contribute their experience, pictures, interesting facts... Samurai has rightly said history can be fascinating stuff - and it is available free for all visiting our site!! There is plenty available on DK in this sub-forum.


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Nice pictures there vrprabhu, seems like you had the real stress buster. Seems like you had the real chill of monsoon .
normal petrol in KA expensive than speed in MH
Thanks, jacs. We did. Icing on the cake - going again next week

Got about 16 kmpl / litre. Have to shell out more for petrol this time


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Somewhat didn't like the way Manipal is right now. Looks too commercial (not that it was not earlier ). Liked it the old way when I studied.
Me too... that is why at the end of the day, Mangalore campus won the day as against Manipal for my daughter


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You are now fairly aware of my route and my destination and the return route. So while I have crossed four borders in the onward journery, I crossed only three on my return. How?
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That is a great thread Prabhu mam. pictures are fantastic.

MX6 and Samurai, thanks to you too, for some of the historic insights
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onward:MH-GA, GA-KA, KA-KL, KL-PYreturn:KL-PY, KL-KA, KA-MH
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Another possibility - You could have sneaked into AP, TN in between and not posted any of those pics - a well kept secret over 6 pages. Please post your pics of AP/TN vrprabhu!!!
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@prabhu,
as you posted rightly, this thread has become good source of kannada history for the people like me.
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onward:MH-GA, GA-KA, KA-KL, KL-PYreturn:KL-PY, KL-KA, KA-MH
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Another possibility - You could have sneaked into AP, TN in between and not posted any of those pics - a well kept secret over 6 pages. Please post your pics of AP/TN vrprabhu!!!
It was there on my mind. Personally, the only the road which I used to like from Chennai to Bangalore was the route was Chittoor (AP) - excellent two laned road with lots of trees. You could stop at any place and have a picnic. Used to go to Dodaballapur (so as to avoid Bangalore and reach Tumkur). But fuel costs, NH4 and paucity of time willed it otherwise.

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@prabhu,
as you posted rightly, this thread has become good source of kannada history for the people like me.
Very true. Despite having roots in Karnataka, I had only seen - Hampi, Gokak and some places near Hubli / Mangalore. I am happy that atleast now I could see such amazing places.
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