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Old 17th October 2010, 15:04   #31
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Lovely pics and narration Suhaas, always love reading a travelogue on Goa, waiting for more !
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Old 17th October 2010, 15:25   #32
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I like the idea. Wondering If you have missed out arambol. Many Bangaloreans dont bother to get there coz its northest point.


Another place i would suggest if you are passing by Panaji is Vinanti. It is located on MG road and very close to the bus stand and the mandovi bridge. Goan food at its best. real VFM
Thanks for mentioning that, blackbeast! Will definitely try it out next time!

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I have always assumed that Coqueiro would be horribly over priced. however if 4 people could eat in Rs. 2000 it seems to be reasoable. Do you remember how much the set meals cost ?
Some dishes are quite reasonable whereas some are ridiculously expensive! For example, you get the Mackerel Curry Rice for less than half the price of the King-fish curry rice! The Thalis were extremely reasonable and I assume that they would fill you up too. They were just Rs. 125 or so, if I remember correctly!

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Lovely pics and narration Suhaas, always love reading a travelogue on Goa, waiting for more !
Thank you kannan!
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Few Notes:

Having stayed around Karwar for decade (well technically my parents, I was in and around), never noticed Amruth.
I only remember one called Sitara and never liked the food there. (No one mentioned about Amruth, as I am veggie!).

Looks like you zipped around Goa-Karwar while your stayed in Goa.
Thats a outing in an outing! Nice

Another thing I noticed is that you took a different route to Goa. Turn to Sirsi from Haveri and then join NH17 at Kumta.
How is the Haveri-Kumta stretch?


The Bangalore-Goa thread mostly talks either NH4/NH206/NH17 (Shimoga/Honnavar) or NH4/NH63/NH17 (Hubli/Yellapur/Ankola)
or NH4/NH4A (Hubli/Ponda).

I have seen many private buses take Karwar-Ankola-Yellapur-Sirsi-Shimoga route to Bangalore.
But I have never seen folks take that route, unless they want to spend some time at Jog.

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Having stayed around Karwar for decade (well technically my parents, I was in and around), never noticed Amruth.
I only remember one called Sitara and never liked the food there. (No one mentioned about Amruth, as I am veggie!).
Well, then it does add up!

Amrut is a great place, but I'd recommend it only to people who are interested in the food! the ambiance isn't good and sometimes, you might feel like you're paying quite a lot for the food for the sort of ambiance you get!

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Looks like you zipped around Goa-Karwar while your stayed in Goa.
Thats a outing in an outing! Nice
Yup! And we do it almost every time! Love the drive from Ankola to Goa!

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How is the Haveri-Kumta stretch?
The Haveri-Kumta stretch is horrendous to say the least! Pot-holes the size of lunar craters are all over the place! Our poor Civic was hurt in the process, but we're used to it now!

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Another thing I noticed is that you took a different route to Goa. Turn to Sirsi from Haveri and then join NH17 at Kumta.

The Bangalore-Goa thread mostly talks either NH4/NH206/NH17 (Shimoga/Honnavar) or NH4/NH63/NH17 (Hubli/Yellapur/Ankola)
or NH4/NH4A (Hubli/Ponda).

I have seen many private buses take Karwar-Ankola-Yellapur-Sirsi-Shimoga route to Bangalore.
But I have never seen folks take that route, unless they want to spend some time at Jog.
Yup! It's not often you see folks taking this route. We took a turn before Hubli (at Haveri). We've been on the other routes and they aren't too good. You will invariably run into traffic and the roads aren't too good either.

The Harihar - Haveri - Sirsi - Mirjan route seemed fine while going but we took a diferent route while heading back to Bangalore. We avoided Kumta and ended up on a narrow road. I don't even think it was a SH! Stay tuned to this thread. Day 9 is all about this!
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The Haveri-Kumta stretch is horrendous to say the least! Pot-holes the size of lunar craters are all over the place! Our poor Civic was hurt in the process, but we're used to it now!
Any reason why you opted out of driving through panaji-amboli-sawantwadi-belgaum-hubli-bangalore ? This is flat road. perfect for civic.I have once driven on NH17. I was aware of the road condition but i wanted to see the stretch and drive along the coast. It was one hell of an experience.
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Any reason why you opted out of driving through panaji-amboli-sawantwadi-belgaum-hubli-bangalore ? This is flat road. perfect for civic.I have once driven on NH17. I was aware of the road condition but i wanted to see the stretch and drive along the coast. It was one hell of an experience.
Dang! So it was a good stretch of road after all! My father and I assumed that that particular stretch wasn't good. In fact, one of our family friends (who also happens to be a Team-BHP member) had taken the Hubli - Belgaum route instead of the Haveri - Sirsi - Mirjan route recently and he said that it was horrible and our Civic would die! Lol! My dad will not be pleased to hear this!

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Day 8

The 9th of October was the last day of our holiday and although I was really looking forward to the drive the next day, I wore a sullen look! I don't like leaving Goa! It's my second home now! I'm going to miss the fantastically paved Goan road network, the beautiful green landscape and the white sandy beaches, but most of all, I will miss the food!

So we decided to drive around rather aimlessly around Margao and Benaulim. We stopped by at a few shops and generally window-shopped. And then it started raining cats and dogs! Our Civic, that was quite dirty after parking it underneath the trees in the parking lot, was squeaky clean after the showers!

A few interesting pictures from day 8:

White sand, seafood and a few curves thrown in.. Bangalore - Goa - Bangalore!-dscn3555.jpg

White sand, seafood and a few curves thrown in.. Bangalore - Goa - Bangalore!-dscn3561.jpg


As the skies darkened, we headed back to our resort and sorted out our belongings, packed our suit-cases and were ready for the drive the next day. We mentally prepared ourselves for an early departure and decided to hit the hay much earlier than usual. Our aim was to be ready by 5:30 am and check out and hit NH17 by 6 am max!

Watch this space!
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Tha'ts a very nice travelogue man! nice car.We tried doing hyderabad-goa in 4 days but then had to let it go as we hit bad roads from gulbarga onwards. I have plans of going there this december next time ill take the route through solapur
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Well most updates say NH4A is not all that great. So if folks drive down to Goa in a single, they drive through NH206 (Shimoga/Honnavar) and then take NH17.

Folks who it with one break drive down to Hubli. They start the next day, drive via NH63 (Yellapur) and join at the Ankola-Karwar "Y" junction just after Kamat.
And then proceed to Goa.


PS: A decade back it seemed to me that the Kamat on the Y junction had just opened. It was spic and span and was very well maintained. Looks like they still continue to do so.
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Brilliant travelogue there and a very lucid style of writing. Thanks for the fantastic food review (or review of fantastic food, whichever applicable!!) and it is really quite useful. Thinking of doing the Bangalore - Goa jaunt after my wife's exams on Jan 15th. I have bookmarked your t'log already.

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Excellent account of Your trip, Suhaas.

The photos of Mapusa Market and the stretch between Candolim and Margao are very indulging. I am not surprised You didnt photograph the food and I find my mouth watering reading some of the menu's.

I need to plan a trip soon.

Courtesy(!!?) Suhaas, I humbly request //M, Rudra, Sammyboy and Ayan to please photograph the Shrimp-stuffed, Crab-stuffed papads and the Red Snapper.
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Well most updates say NH4A is not all that great. So if folks drive down to Goa in a single, they drive through NH206 (Shimoga/Honnavar) and then take NH17.

Folks who it with one break drive down to Hubli. They start the next day, drive via NH63 (Yellapur) and join at the Ankola-Karwar "Y" junction just after Kamat.
And then proceed to Goa.


PS: A decade back it seemed to me that the Kamat on the Y junction had just opened. It was spic and span and was very well maintained. Looks like they still continue to do so.
Ampere,

In all probability, we would try a different route next time round! We were thinking of the Belgaum route too and we might want to give that a shot as well. IMO, there is no point sticking to one route when you have the ability to explore! What say?

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Brilliant travelogue there and a very lucid style of writing. Thanks for the fantastic food review (or review of fantastic food, whichever applicable!!) and it is really quite useful. Thinking of doing the Bangalore - Goa jaunt after my wife's exams on Jan 15th. I have bookmarked your t'log already.

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That is a huge compliment BurningHeart! Thank you very much! There is still day 9 though, and it's on it's way!

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Excellent account of Your trip, Suhaas.

The photos of Mapusa Market and the stretch between Candolim and Margao are very indulging. I am not surprised You didnt photograph the food and I find my mouth watering reading some of the menu's.

I need to plan a trip soon.

Courtesy(!!?) Suhaas, I humbly request //M, Rudra, Sammyboy and Ayan to please photograph the Shrimp-stuffed, Crab-stuffed papads and the Red Snapper.
Thank you Rocky!

Yeah I'm very sorry for not photographing the food! Every time our order arrived, I would forget about the camera and pick up my fork and spoon instead; and in some cases, I just dove right in, sans cutlery!

Oh, and the stretch between Candolim and Margao was absolutely fantastic! Nothing will be able to replicate the sheer beauty of that stretch. There is one picture that I'd taken on day 9 and that's coming up!
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Day 9

5:00 am isn't a nice time to wake up, especially when you are on a holiday. But our aim was to make it to Bangalore, or at least Bangalore district before dark. We forced ourselves out of bed and we were in our car and on the road by 6:15 am. The day began on a rather gloomy note as dark clouds loomed large over our heads. We were in for a rainy start! By the time we reached Margao, it began to pour heavily and because of that, we had to slow down! At around 7, the rain stopped abruptly and we were 20 minutes or so from Cancona.

White sand, seafood and a few curves thrown in.. Bangalore - Goa - Bangalore!-dscn3562.jpg

Pit Stop:

We made our first pit-stop for breakfast at around 8:30 and no surprises as to where it was! Yes, Kamat Upchaar! The same place where we'd stopped earlier during our holiday.

White sand, seafood and a few curves thrown in.. Bangalore - Goa - Bangalore!-dscn3563.jpg

This time, we ordered for Mangalore bondas and despite being soaked in oil, they were absolutely delicious! The bondas were followed by two plates of Idlis, one large Masala Dosa, three hot cups of coffee and one sweet lassi. I hadn't mentioned this in my previous post; the food at Kamat Upchaar was cold and that was a disappointing. This time round though, I felt that the food was better.

We hit the road at 9:15 am.

As we were approaching Kumta, my father directed me to take a slight deviation and turn left, off the state highway. I had to drop a gear to proceed as it felt like we had started to climb a bit. And indeed, we were! The narrow road was being hogged by women carrying massive pots on their heads! The road was barely wide enough to accommodate a BMTC bus!

This was the by-pass route that completely eliminates the necessity to go through Kumta, thereby saving us 10 km and roughly 15 minutes of crawling through the town. It is advised not to go fast within town limits as people aren't used to the fast-paced life in a city and hence, wouldn't be able to react quickly enough to something that might be doing good speeds.

However, the roads thereon got bad. And then they got even worse.

White sand, seafood and a few curves thrown in.. Bangalore - Goa - Bangalore!-dscn3565.jpg

After Sirsi, we had to take a left to go towards Hubli and then turn right at a fork that takes you to Haveri. After taking the right at the fork, the road got narrower and narrower until it seemed to be just 10 ft across! And it's more than a couple of inches higher than the level of the ground. One small turn to the left and I'm sure that our car would've kissed the road and it wouldn't have been pretty. We were concerned.

White sand, seafood and a few curves thrown in.. Bangalore - Goa - Bangalore!-dscn3566.jpg

White sand, seafood and a few curves thrown in.. Bangalore - Goa - Bangalore!-dscn3567.jpg

There was an impatient NWKSRTC bus that was coming the other way and we didn't know what to do. Our tactic is just to stop, stay put and wait for the guy coming in the opposite direction to make his move. But this bus fellow didn't want to give us any space! After staying still for over 30 seconds, he decided to take the plunge. Nothing would've happened to his bus anyway!

White sand, seafood and a few curves thrown in.. Bangalore - Goa - Bangalore!-dscn3568.jpg

As you can see, there were workers at the site, cleaning up the shoulders and possibly, getting it ready for a fresh layer of tar. And in fact, road-roller and gang were present at the site, but a little further away.

Some pictures through the drive:

White sand, seafood and a few curves thrown in.. Bangalore - Goa - Bangalore!-dscn3569.jpg

More animals on the road. Observation: If we weren't slowed down by stray cattle and other species of wildlife during our drive, we could probably shave off a good half 'n hour from the total travel time.

White sand, seafood and a few curves thrown in.. Bangalore - Goa - Bangalore!-dscn3570.jpg

Land acquisition issues prevents the Golden-Quadrilateral from being finished. And that's why we might see these sign-boards more often than we want to.

White sand, seafood and a few curves thrown in.. Bangalore - Goa - Bangalore!-dscn3571.jpg

Or is it really land acquisition issues? We encountered possibly the 5th diversion sign-board and when I got a closer look, I saw that the farmers around the highway had acually spread their produce across the GQ and had left it there to soak in the Sun! Beat that!

Pit Stop 2

At precisely 3 pm, we reached Davangere and got some grub. Four Benne Doses and three coffees later, we hit the road again.

The roads after Davangere were fabulous and even though you can go well beyond 150 in a capable car, I wouldn't advise it, simply because our highways aren't made for such speeds. In fact, through the drive, we felt most comfortable at 90-110.

The moment we reached Tumkur, the clouds opened up again and it rained like it had never before! I had to slow down from 130 to 70 just almost no time just because it had started to pour abruptly! The condition of the road wasn't good in patches. And it felt like there was quite a lot of oil spilled on the tarmac! I saw a few cars in front of me lose grip for a nano-second and we followed suit. It was quite a hairy experience, especially since the roads were wet and we had no idea what was actually on the road!

Pit Stop 3

At about 6:45 pm, we stopped just outside Bangalore for a little snack. Our family cannot go for too long without something in our stomachs, my sister being the exception!

White sand, seafood and a few curves thrown in.. Bangalore - Goa - Bangalore!-dscn3573.jpg

This time, we stopped at Reliance A1. Decent and homely best describes the food that's served here. And the service was fantastic. That was the last thing we expected from this place! More Idlis and Mangalore Bondas were ordered.

The moment we entered Bangalore proper, we went straight into the jaws of a massive traffic jam that kept us from reaching our home for almost 2 hours! It was just horrible. the traffic-jam was right after the Bangalore-Nelamangala Expressway, the area where the Metro construction is in progress!

Bleh! We're back in Bangalore baby, and you know it when you see Namma Metro hoardings everywhere!

We reached our house with enough time to catch the 9'o clock headlines and the credentials of the 7:30 movie on HBO!

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And now for the most important statistic of all, the FE:

Highway: 13.8 km-l
City: 10.5 km-l or so
Overall: 12.7 km-l
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Well.. that's it from me, folks. Until next time! Same time, same place, next year! Sayonara!

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Again, why you had to turn to Hubli from Sirsi? A different route to try?
I thought it should have been the same that you while going.
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Again, why you had to turn to Hubli from Sirsi? A different route to try?
I thought it should have been the same that you while going.
Was that a wrong turn, ampere? We did not go to Hubli though. We went to Haveri. The route we took while going was pretty much the same as the one we took coming back, apart from a slight deviation.

Maybe you could suggest to us another route. I will forward this to my father and speak to him about it. We had a feeling that we wet wrong somewhere while getting back to B'lore!
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Was that a wrong turn, ampere? We did not go to Hubli though. We went to Haveri. The route we took while going was pretty much the same as the one we took coming back, apart from a slight deviation.

Maybe you could suggest to us another route. I will forward this to my father and speak to him about it. We had a feeling that we wet wrong somewhere while getting back to B'lore!
You mentioned turning to Hubi. Hence I got that doubt. (No I have never driven there)


I think the best route is NH17/63/4. Nothing beats NH63 Yellapur stretch. Green and in prime form for driving. You never feel the stress of the ghats.
(Karwar-Ankola-Yellapur-Hubli-Bangalore.)
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