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Old 20th September 2013, 17:59   #1771
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You are asking for a perfect tyre! It doesnt exist.

1. Extraordinary grip: MRF ZLO.,

2. Great Ride Comfort: Michelin XM2/Yoko A Drive/ Acelere.

Now you have to choose between these two parameters.
Nikhil, among ZLO and XM2, which aids in handling better? Also, which one has lesser noise. Am looking at 195/60 R15.

Am actually surprised when you say ZLO has better grip than XM2. I do not have much idea when it comes to tyres. But nobody even suggested me ZLO. Yeah, I know you are the tyre expert of this forum

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Old 26th September 2013, 07:24   #1772
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How come the tyre are lasting so long? Dad's Dzire has completed 50k and is reaching the end of the second set. Stock tyres lasted around 25k, then changed to Michelin XM2. He travels on rural roads (not un tarred though) half the time. Im at a loss on what tyre he should use.
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Old 26th September 2013, 08:00   #1773
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I got 195/60 R15 Michelin XM2 on our Swift. I was looking around for 185/65 R15 (stock) but couldn't get XM2 here in Kochi in that size. The ones I was shown was more than a year old. So, decided to go ahead with 195/60.

The tyres as expected is a huge step over the stock ZVTV in terms of wet grip, noise, comfort and straight line stability. The cost is a bit high. And 195/60 doesn't fill the wheel well as good as 185/65 as there is reduction in radius is about 3 mm. And it does kick up a lot of dirt as well.

Pictures are here: http://www.team-bhp.com/forum/long-t...ml#post3224067
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Dear Swifters!!

A lot of folks run 185/70-14 on the swift's.

Here is my issue

Tyre size : 185/70-14
All round pressure : 31psi
City : Bangalore
Route to work : Rajajinagar to Mahadevpura (via Old Madras Road and K R Puram junction)

Since I shifted to the MRF ZLO's 185/70-14 my mileage has consistently been hover around 13 and 13.5

Would like to hear the feedback from other swifter's with 185/70-14 on their mileage ?
Seriously would like to find out the reason
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Old 27th September 2013, 14:46   #1775
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Nikhil, among ZLO and XM2, which aids in handling better? Also, which one has lesser noise. Am looking at 195/60 R15.

Am actually surprised when you say ZLO has better grip than XM2. I do not have much idea when it comes to tyres. But nobody even suggested me ZLO. Yeah, I know you are the tyre expert of this forum

Thanks
The ZLOs are far superior in terms of grip. No question about it. They may be a little bit noisy though.

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Dear Swifters!!

A lot of folks run 185/70-14 on the swift's.

Here is my issue

Tyre size : 185/70-14
All round pressure : 31psi
City : Bangalore
Route to work : Rajajinagar to Mahadevpura (via Old Madras Road and K R Puram junction)

Since I shifted to the MRF ZLO's 185/70-14 my mileage has consistently been hover around 13 and 13.5

Would like to hear the feedback from other swifter's with 185/70-14 on their mileage ?
Seriously would like to find out the reason
More grip means less mileage as it increases the drag. A sticky tyre will reduce mileage marginally. How much was your mileage earlier before changing to ZLO?
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Since I shifted to the MRF ZLO's 185/70-14 my mileage has consistently been hover around 13 and 13.5

Would like to hear the feedback from other swifter's with 185/70-14 on their mileage ?
Swift vdi 2009, 75000+ KM

Tyres : Continental ContiEcoContact 3 185/70 R14

Mileage : 19 KMPL in city drive and 21+ KMPL on highway with full time AC in summers and +1.5 in winters.

I maintain 33 psi on front wheels and 30 psi on rear wheels.

13.5 KMPL is too low What was the mileage prior to the change?

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More grip means less mileage as it increases the drag. A sticky tyre will reduce mileage marginally. How much was your mileage earlier before changing to ZLO?
Nikhil - Here are some of my observations

1. It used to be 15 ~ 16 on an average.
2. The ZLO visually *seems* to be wider compared to Michelin XM2+ - Just my observation

The reported mileage is with accounting for the speedo error with the change

I am trying to understand what parameters could improve it..

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Nikhil - Here are some of my observations

1. It used to be 15 ~ 16 on an average.
2. The ZLO visually *seems* to be wider compared to Michelin XM2+ - Just my observation

The reported mileage is with accounting for the speedo error with the change

I am trying to understand what parameters could improve it..

Cheers
Hi Sateesh,

The ZLO might be few mms wider than the XM1+. (I assume you meant the XM1+ rather than the XM2).

But such a big difference is almost impossible with just a change of rubber. You have even kept the size same.

Maybe it is just a coincidence that this happened at the same time you changed the tyre? Could there be another issue?
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Tyres : Continental ContiEcoContact 3 185/70 R14

Mileage : 19 KMPL in city drive and 21+ KMPL on highway with full time AC in summers and +1.5 in winters.

I maintain 33 psi on front wheels and 30 psi on rear wheels.

13.5 KMPL is too low What was the mileage prior to the change?

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@ I guess I need to look at the pressure.

In my case my mileage in the city never crossed 16 ever. But I am off by 1.5 kmpl which is high.

Infact this is similar to the mileage of my Accent CRDi

I am giving 2 months to fix this. Let us see

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Guys, Need advise on choosing a set of tyres for my Dzire. The MRF ZVTVs are hard, uncomfortable and have poor grip. In fact I damaged my left rear end of the car when the rear skidded out while taking a sharp right hander.
My priorities are Comfort, grip, less noise, performance and FE
Offered these tyres 195/60/15 Michelin xm2 @6000/- Conti CPC 5800/-Yoko DB 5500/-
and in 185/65/15 Michelin xm2 @ 5600
Am inclined to 185/65 Michelin due to OE size, marginally better performance and FE, and 3 mm more of sidewall (My first requirement comfort). But I have driven a cruz with the Yoko DB and really liked these tyres. The tyre wallah suggested the CPC for my requirements.

Thus my dilemma. Any inputs from you guys as to the price and choice of tyre.
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Guys, Need advise on choosing a set of tyres for my Dzire. The MRF ZVTVs are hard, uncomfortable and have poor grip. In fact I damaged my left rear end of the car when the rear skidded out while taking a sharp right hander.
My priorities are Comfort, grip, less noise, performance and FE
Offered these tyres 195/60/15 Michelin xm2 @6000/- Conti CPC 5800/-Yoko DB 5500/-
and in 185/65/15 Michelin xm2 @ 5600
Am inclined to 185/65 Michelin due to OE size, marginally better performance and FE, and 3 mm more of sidewall (My first requirement comfort). But I have driven a cruz with the Yoko DB and really liked these tyres. The tyre wallah suggested the CPC for my requirements.

Thus my dilemma. Any inputs from you guys as to the price and choice of tyre.
All 3 are good tyres but comfort wise I think the DB V550 and Michelin are a level above the Continental.
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Hi Sateesh,

Maybe it is just a coincidence that this happened at the same time you changed the tyre? Could there be another issue?

Nikhil - I am trying to identify all parameters that could affect the mileage and try and vary one at a time every few weeks to identify the source

I know it is painful but don't have a choice. I am stumped when people claim that they get 18+ kmpl in city. May be there is something I can learn

Thanks for all the feedback.

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Mileage : 19 KMPL in city drive and 21+ KMPL on highway with full time AC in summers and +1.5 in winters.

I maintain 33 psi on front wheels and 30 psi on rear wheels.

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SaurabhSaran - Would you mind sharing tips and tricks that help you achieve such astounding mileage.

Few things that you could help me with

1. Typical upshift and downshift RPM's
2. Typical traffic you run into during your daily commute
3. Which engine oil do you use ?

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All 3 are good tyres but comfort wise I think the DB V550 and Michelin are a level above the Continental.
Thanks. Eventually got the 185/65/15 Michelin XM2 Green Made in China for my Dzire. The ride is much better now and the squealing of the MRFs in my basement parking has stopped with these tyres.

Along with me another person upgraded his honda city to 195/60/15 and his tyres were made in Thailand.

Buy back of my old tyres was @2000/- per tyre
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Few things that you could help me with

1. Typical upshift and downshift RPM's
2. Typical traffic you run into during your daily commute
3. Which engine oil do you use ?
Sateesh, the major factors for this good mileage are better condition of roads and traffic in Greater Noida. Wide roads, no traffic signals (roundabouts instead), no traffic jams.

In normal driving conditions, i prefer to change the gear around 1800 RMP (for 3rd and above).

I travel 60 KM daily(both ways) with 60% drive without gear change with a constant speed of 80 KMPH with RPM 1800~2000 but rest of the drive takes away the pleasure where gear shifts and braking is too often (small intersections).

I cross only one red light that too max. 180 sec stopping.

For engine oil, i always go for what Maruti Service Station offer.

The city where I lived earlier I used to get 17-18KMPL.

I also ensure that the air pressure of tyres get checked every 15-20 days as low tyre pressure directly affects the mileage.

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Wide roads, no traffic signals (roundabouts instead), no traffic jams.

1800 RMP (for 3rd and above).

I travel 60 KM daily(both ways) with 60% drive without gear change with a constant speed of 80 KMPH with RPM 1800~2000
I cross only one red light that too max. 180 sec stopping.

For engine oil, i always go for what Maruti Service Station offer.

ensure air pressure of tyres get checked every 15-20

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@SS

You daily drive is dream for most of us in BLR. Lol !!

I have done the following

1. Increase my pressure from 31 psi to 32 psi - I religiously check it every 15 days
2. Will try and upshift at around 1.8k rpm - Earlier sometimes it used to be well beyond 2.5k :-(
3. Will be moving to Delvac 1 from this service as am not happy with the synth. oil provided by MASS

Shall keep you folks updated

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