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Old 11th May 2008, 23:21   #181
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Bridgestones are good, they are soft so excellent grip and but wear out 5k kms earlier, this is my exp, then again they are notorious for stone hit damage to side walls. So if you do lot of bad roads stick to tougher brands.

195 and 185 is debatable, i took 195 coz i do lot of lunatic driving on bad surface and in rains, so an extra buffer. Then again there are loads of people who are happy with 185 also, mileage hit between them can be estimated at around .5 kmpl, again my findings doesnt take into account odo error and fill up error
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Thanks for the reply Jaggu.
As far as the roads are concerned, I am lucky that most of my driving will be on somewhat good roads.
Somehow I want to go for either Michelin or Yokos, still confused about the profile though.. will wait for the tyre gurus to respond.

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He has also suggested me in getting 4 alloys instead of 5 because if i put the 5th alloy in the boot , it will get scratched
Should I buy 4 or 5 alloys??

Sorry for asking so many questions.. i am fairly new to all this stuff and my next stop is going to be the ICE section
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Old 12th May 2008, 11:34   #183
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5 alloys will give you the freedom of having 5 similar size tyres which can be rotated, 4 means you will loose out using one tyre, unless you are ready to remove and refit it during rotation.

4 tyres good news is you can buy a similar size non directional tyre for spare, which can be used in either of the sides in case of failure. ie if you are getting a directional thread upgrade.
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Old 12th May 2008, 14:00   #184
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I took 5 alloys and never had to use the spare one in the boot even for rotation. I would suggest go for 4 alloys and 195/60/15. Though I have 205/55/15 Yoko S Drives they do touch the wheel arch when in full load. 195 is better I am not sure you get S drives in 195 ES 100 avoid it as it is already out of the market and the leftover stock might be pushed into the market and they are pretty noisy though not as noisy as the Goodyear GSD2's. S drives are the best.
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Thanks for the reply Jaggu.
As far as the roads are concerned, I am lucky that most of my driving will be on somewhat good roads.
Somehow I want to go for either Michelin or Yokos, still confused about the profile though.. will wait for the tyre gurus to respond.

Should I buy 4 or 5 alloys??

Sorry for asking so many questions.. i am fairly new to all this stuff and my next stop is going to be the ICE section
Dear as can understand you are looking for a decent ride quality with FE.
I feel following options you may find good.

185/70 R 14
Michelin Xm1+
Yoko A.drive
Yoko A300

195/65 R14
YOKO A.drive.

All above options will not make any difference to your FE , They may only improve it.
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Thanks all for the replies.
I think I will be going for 185 profile.

@Vid: Any particular reason why you suggested 195 profile since I'll be going for alloys??

Thanks again.
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@Vid: Any particular reason why you suggested 195 profile since I'll be going for alloys??
Well primarily because most alloys in 14" are 6J on which fitting 185's is not optimal.
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Not sure about pick up my mileage hovers around 10.5 to 11.5 with and without a/c, with 205/55/15 S Drives on my Swift and in Bangalore traffic and with a little bit of spirited driving, I am in no way easy on the gas. Cant comment on the 195's but surely 195 will not touch the wheel arch where as the 205 do touch the wheel arch on full load and ofcourse bad road conditions
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Hmmm.. Well, I am not very very concerned about the mileage factor. But since you told me that 205 would touch the wheel arc and that has got me thinking. Pune roads are bad then Banglore ones for sure. If 205 is gonna touch the base then I really think I should move back to 195.

Any more Swift owners with 205 profile, please comment on this, highly appreciated.
Thanks in advance.

Thanks anarchist !!

Well, can anyone shed some light on this? Need to decide on the profile.
For now 205/55/R15 S drive is on my mind.

Thanks !!

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Old 13th May 2008, 14:51   #189
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In Swift 205/60-15 will touch but 205/55-15 won't.
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205/55-15 is a good upsize for Swift.
There's a difference of over 2% in circumference if u take the stock size as 165/80-14.
If u calculate it for Zxi 185/70-14 the difference is only 1.32% which is well within acceptable limits.

What about the wheel bearings?
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Hi Guys,

I will be getting my Swift VDi shortly and have finalized upsizing to 185/70/R14. I saw my car with the delaer today and it has MRF tyres
I have some queries:[*]I have contacted a local tyrewaala, hes offering me 1200 for each tyre and 200 for the rim. Is this a good price??[*]He has quoted me 2800 for Michelin Energy XM1 (not XM1+), he says he has only XM1, is this a good deal???[*]He himself is recommending Yokos (i think ES100) for 2700 per tyre and there is a reebok strolley bag(worth 2500 ) free with 4 tyres.
I find the price too good to be true.

I was told I'll get around 700-1000 for the stock tyre (165/80/14) that too depends on the make and 0 for the rim's

New tyre price in the range of 4200-4500 for 195/60/15
Bridgestone i think.

Location : Cochin

Alloys in the range of 15k+ for set of 4, with bill and 1yr warranty.

Makes sense to go for 4 sets of tyres and alloys, in my view investing aroun 10k for a spare is err...

In case of failure I guess the stock tyre can be put in place as the overall difference in diameter is negligible.

Tyre Guru's kindly confirm.

Bottom line " I'm confused "
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Thanks for the reply and your thoughts yzfrj.
It seems to be a little more costly down south. Almost all dealers have quoted me atleast 1000 per ture.
Also the price that you mentioned for the 195/60/R15 Bridgestones seems to be on a higher side (i maybe wrong here).

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In case of failure I guess the stock tyre can be put in place as the overall difference in diameter is negligible.
You are right..its no point spending that extra money on the spare tyre.
The spare tyre if and when needed would not be that big a problem even if it is of a slightly different profile and ya i've got it confirmed by one of the tyre gurus!!
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I think u are gonna get 185/65-14 MRF ZV2k tyres with your Swift and not 165/80-14 JKs thats why u are getting a good buy back value.
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Nope, they are 165/80/R14 MRF.Maybe Maruti has also started shipping MRFs now. I had taken the tbp checklist along and when i got the month of manufacturing checked on my car , they told me that it is May 2008.I am not sure how they decipher that code into the month and year and that dealer guy wont tell me saying that its their trade secret and i can get it checked from outside also.
Buttttttttt is the tyre dealer also thinking what you are thinking??

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How come i'm seeing so many VDi's with 185 MRF ZV2k ??? Or is it that all are upsizing to 185 MRFs??
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