Go Back   Team-BHP > Under the Hood > Modifications & Accessories > Tyre & Alloy wheel Section


Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Old 26th January 2010, 23:32   #901
Team-BHP Support
 
Jaggu's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Bangalore
Posts: 17,062
Thanked: 5,864 Times
Default

I wouldnt agree to the above statement Sanjay, the size you mentioned is perfectly fine wrt to ride. Unless you have microscopic sensors you will not be able to figure out the choppiness from stock tyre. On the other hand it gives you better braking feedback inside city, where the stock tyres just lock up at the slightest move.

Rattles are altogether a different story and nothing to do with the size of tyre you are running.

I have both stock and upsized tyred cars at home, and upsized one is holding better in rattle department

Last edited by Jaggu : 26th January 2010 at 23:33.
Jaggu is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 26th January 2010, 23:40   #902
BHPian
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: New Delhi
Posts: 312
Thanked: 3 Times
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by khoj View Post
Hi Nikhil,

I have been shown a set of Yokohamas Db series 195/60/R15 V rated tyres that are made in Japan with bill and wty. Comparing these to the CPC2 of same size which should be the tire of choice with priorities in the order below
1. Low Road Noise
2. Good grip in wet conditions
3. Comfortable drive

BTW one tire dealer whose own car has the RE88s in above size asked me not to change the RE88s coming with my Cedia as per him they are better than both the Yoko and the Conti in terms of low road noise. He is selling all three brands and this is confusing.

Kindly adviseasap, I get delivery tomorrow and need to change before the day is out. Thanks
RE88 are higher on noise...
itzzme is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 27th January 2010, 08:55   #903
Senior - BHPian
 
DieselFan's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Bangalore
Posts: 1,554
Thanked: 185 Times
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Sanjay1707 View Post
I upgraded to Michelin XM1+ 185/70-R14 six months back. I rue my decision. Although the road grip has increased but ride quality is now very poor and bone jarring. Twice I had to send my car to service center to rectify body rattles. Pl upgrade tyres in terms of size only if you really feel the need. If you drive within the city limits most of the time and the roads are not in the best of the conditions, do not do it.
What is the tyre pressure you are maintaining? You need to maintain at least 3 PSI below stock tyre pressure.
DieselFan is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 27th January 2010, 10:22   #904
BHPian
 
asethi's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: Bangalore
Posts: 372
Thanked: 39 Times
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Sanjay1707 View Post
I upgraded to Michelin XM1+ 185/70-R14 six months back. I rue my decision. Although the road grip has increased but ride quality is now very poor and bone jarring. Twice I had to send my car to service center to rectify body rattles. Pl upgrade tyres in terms of size only if you really feel the need. If you drive within the city limits most of the time and the roads are not in the best of the conditions, do not do it.
Even I don't agree with you Sanjay. I too upgraded to the same tyres 3 months back, but I have always felt improvement in every department.
Try reducing the tyre pressure, as for 185/70 the tyre pressure would be approx 3psi less than the stock 165/80 tyres.
asethi is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 4th February 2010, 00:50   #905
BHPian
 
Sanjay1707's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: Bellary
Posts: 26
Thanked: Once
Default

I keep 28 psi in all four. Most of the time, I drive on roads which are a mix of say, very bad to excellent condition. Before the tyre change, my car had hardly any rattle. But, after the change of tyres to XM1+, the ride is good on roads which are well laid but unbearable on bad roads. I asked the local Maruti service center to check the suspension for any problem. They see just no problem with the suspension. I do not know what to do, should I go back the stock tyres?
Sanjay1707 is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 7th February 2010, 23:53   #906
BHPian
 
2theMax's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: Chennai
Posts: 337
Thanked: Once
Default

Can't decide between 195 or 205's, what would be the best option for 80% city and occassional spirited drives ?

Neo 15" set of 4 - 20250/-
205/55/15 - 4900/- Sdrive
195/60/15 - 4700/- ES100.

Feel iam being ripped, are these price in chennai ok ? include wheel nuts and all taxes.
2theMax is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 8th February 2010, 12:21   #907
Senior - BHPian
 
DieselFan's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Bangalore
Posts: 1,554
Thanked: 185 Times
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Sanjay1707 View Post
I keep 28 psi in all four. Most of the time, I drive on roads which are a mix of say, very bad to excellent condition. Before the tyre change, my car had hardly any rattle. But, after the change of tyres to XM1+, the ride is good on roads which are well laid but unbearable on bad roads. I asked the local Maruti service center to check the suspension for any problem. They see just no problem with the suspension. I do not know what to do, should I go back the stock tyres?
XM1+s are not good on very bad roads. It is best avoided. But going back to Stock tyres are a NO-NO from the safety perspective.Why don't you try Bridgestone ER-60?
DieselFan is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 8th February 2010, 12:32   #908
BHPian
 
VTEC_Rocks's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: Bangalore
Posts: 139
Thanked: 2 Times
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by 2theMax View Post
Can't decide between 195 or 205's, what would be the best option for 80% city and occassional spirited drives ?

Neo 15" set of 4 - 20250/-
205/55/15 - 4900/- Sdrive
195/60/15 - 4700/- ES100.

Feel iam being ripped, are these price in chennai ok ? include wheel nuts and all taxes.
You could bargain on the price of the Alloys. I got 15" lenso (set of 5) for Rs.24000/- I currently run 195/55/R15 and the handling is excellent. The car is pinned to the road at high speeds.

205/55 looks awesome on the car, but be careful while selecting the alloys, as the offset plays a vita role. 205s with an inappropriate offset will definitely touch the body of the car during a full lock or heavy loads.

I got my tires at Rs.4200/- each (Bridgestone G3). Tires are much cheaper in Tamilnadu when compared to Bangalore. I think you would get a better deal.

How much are you getting for the OEM rims and tires?
VTEC_Rocks is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 8th February 2010, 13:34   #909
Distinguished - BHPian
 
Nikhilb2008's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: Bangalore
Posts: 4,627
Thanked: 2,925 Times
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by DieselFan View Post
XM1+s are not good on very bad roads. It is best avoided. But going back to Stock tyres are a NO-NO from the safety perspective.Why don't you try Bridgestone ER-60?
Actually for him, if he goes to ER60s, he is going to have an even worse ride.

What you are saying is totally wrong. XM1+s are quite simply unbeatable on bad roads. Nothing even comes close.

Sanjay --- I have a feeling you have overinflated your tyres. What pressures are you running? Where do you get it checked?

In all my experience of dealing with dozens of people running 185/70 R14 XM1+, you are the FIRST person to complain of bad ride quality. Get your tyre pressure checked first.
Nikhilb2008 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 8th February 2010, 14:42   #910
Senior - BHPian
 
DieselFan's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Bangalore
Posts: 1,554
Thanked: 185 Times
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Nikhilb2008 View Post
Actually for him, if he goes to ER60s, he is going to have an even worse ride.

What you are saying is totally wrong. XM1+s are quite simply unbeatable on bad roads. Nothing even comes close.

Sanjay --- I have a feeling you have overinflated your tyres. What pressures are you running? Where do you get it checked?
Nikhil - Sanjay has underinflated the tyres not overinflated it. Maintaining 28 PSI on all tyres is 3 PSI less than what is recommended for the tyre of that size. So Ideally speaking he should have had a better ride. But on a very bad road this is not the case. a Soft compound tyre flexes more and throws you off your seat while a hard compound tyre will flex lesser and gives a better ride.

This is not just a theory but have experienced the same on very bad roads. Bellary area has really bad roads or no roads at all in certain places where you would need a slightly harder compound tyre.
DieselFan is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 8th February 2010, 15:24   #911
Distinguished - BHPian
 
Nikhilb2008's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: Bangalore
Posts: 4,627
Thanked: 2,925 Times
Default

Dieselfan --- Lower PSI doesnt ALWAYS mean better ride quality. There is a certain sweet spot.

Also, I have doubts on the accuracy of the gauge being used to measure the pressure.
Nikhilb2008 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 8th February 2010, 16:29   #912
BHPian
 
SumitBahl's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2008
Location: Chandigarh
Posts: 973
Thanked: 214 Times
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by 2theMax View Post
Can't decide between 195 or 205's, what would be the best option for 80% city and occassional spirited drives ?

Neo 15" set of 4 - 20250/-
205/55/15 - 4900/- Sdrive
195/60/15 - 4700/- ES100.

Feel iam being ripped, are these price in chennai ok ? include wheel nuts and all taxes.
ES100 is A-Drive, right?
4700 is bit too much for A-Drive. I got mine for Rs. 3900.
SumitBahl is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 8th February 2010, 16:43   #913
Distinguished - BHPian
 
Nikhilb2008's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: Bangalore
Posts: 4,627
Thanked: 2,925 Times
Default

Es100 is NOT the A drive!

However, 4700 for the 195/60 R15 ES100 is a ripoff. Could you check again? I'm sure the dealer might have been mistaken.

205/55 R15 S drive is closer to 4800, however, 100/- here and there is understandable.

And NEO wheels costing 20k for a set of 4 is a little hard to believe. Who is the dealer?

Last edited by Nikhilb2008 : 8th February 2010 at 16:44.
Nikhilb2008 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 8th February 2010, 17:29   #914
BHPian
 
2theMax's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: Chennai
Posts: 337
Thanked: Once
Default

Thanks VTEC, Sumit and Nikhil, It was at Haute car zone-Chennai. I will check with him again as he cannot give such outrageous quotes.

I will check other dealers as well. Thanks
2theMax is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 8th February 2010, 17:36   #915
Distinguished - BHPian
 
Nikhilb2008's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: Bangalore
Posts: 4,627
Thanked: 2,925 Times
Default

He seems to be ripping you off.... Why dont you try Tyre Store?
Nikhilb2008 is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply


Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Maruti Suzuki Ritz : Tyre & wheel upgrade thread funda2max Tyre & Alloy wheel Section 375 28th February 2017 12:42
Maruti Suzuki Alto : Tyre & wheel upgrade thread abhibh Tyre & Alloy wheel Section 351 27th February 2017 13:38
Maruti Suzuki SX4 : Tyre & wheel upgrade thread loving_alaap Tyre & Alloy wheel Section 262 16th February 2017 12:26
Maruti Suzuki WagonR : Tyre & wheel upgrade thread iWonder Tyre & Alloy wheel Section 74 20th January 2017 11:37
Maruti Suzuki A-Star : Tyre & wheel upgrade thread JKBKS Tyre & Alloy wheel Section 57 20th December 2016 13:19


All times are GMT +5.5. The time now is 07:51.

Copyright 2000 - 2017, Team-BHP.com
Proudly powered by E2E Networks