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Old 13th August 2016, 14:49   #46
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Sharing the indicative images (images sourced from google) of the shortlisted tires as under -

MAXXIS MA-Z1 (Unidirectional) :
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HANKOOK OPTIMO (Unidirectional) :
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YOKOHAMA S.DRIVES (Unidirectional) :
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CONTINENTAL Conti Max Contact :
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APOLLO ACELERE :
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The ones I am liking are all Unidirectional but that is not much of a trouble to me as have used unidirectional tires before on other cars as well. Though they might have their Pro(s) and Con(s) !!
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Those alloys looks really nice on the car. I have a Corolla wearing the same alloys

For the tyres, I switched to Continental MaxContact5 a couple of months ago and have done around 2000 kms since then. I would whole heartedly recommend those to you. Brilliant tyres for the price. I went in with stock size itself though which is 195/60/R15 for me. If you want tyres with as less road noise as possible, look at Yokohama AVS dB or Michelin P3ST.
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Upsize to Wheel/ Tyre Size : 205/55 R15
Upsized Circumference : 1905.37mm

Difference in Circumference = 10.99mm
Make sure that you check with Toyota and double confirm that this 30 mm increase in tyre width is not going to cause rubbing of wheel archs when the vehicle is fully loaded or when a U-turn is taken.
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Make sure that you check with Toyota and double confirm that this 30 mm increase in tyre width is not going to cause rubbing of wheel archs when the vehicle is fully loaded or when a U-turn is taken.
Thanks for the suggestion Amalji !! Even I was in two minds and had this same concern as mentioned by you. Out of curiosity, I paid a visit to a tyre dealer and got the Hankook Ventus V8 RS 205/55 R15 fitted on the Front RHS of the Etios to try it out.

The results were pretty satisfying as the 1Cm increase in circumference & 2Cm increase in width of the tires did not effect the concern.

My observations :
  1. The stance of the Etios looked very good
  2. The tires did not hit the wheel arches at all and the gap between the tyre and the wheel arch was almost the same as in case of the stock size of 185/60 R15 which I already have on my Etios - Can comment on that as the Rear Right tyre was 185/60 R15 and the Front Right tyre was 205/55 R15. Unfortunately out of excitement did not take the snap to share
  3. Steered to extreme left and extreme right with no issues at all
I guess I will go for them !!

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I changed tyres of my Etios GD(2012) recently. Bought Michelin XM2, 175x65 R14. OEM was Good Year, lasted 43900 KMS.

Cost of New Tyres - 19000K for four tyres including fitting, alignment, balancing & new mouths for all 4 tyres. Have a free alignment 45 days after fitting which is due this week.

So far Happy with new tyres. Tyre shop owner claims that this should last for at least another 60000 KMS, provided I check the alignment/balance every 5000 KMs & ensure proper tyre pressure.

Lets see how this goes.
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So far Happy with new tyres. Tyre shop owner claims that this should last for at least another 60000 KMS, provided I check the alignment/balance every 5000 KMs & ensure proper tyre pressure.

Lets see how this goes.
The kms for which the tyres last is not the true test of a tyre's character. In fact, in some scenarios, I might even opt for a less lasting tyre to improve on the softness and grip levels. Regardless, the Michelin XM2 and Bridgestone Turanza ER300 series are an ideal mix of all ( Durability, softness & grip levels ). So, you have opted for a good model.

I generally change tyres at around 40k-50k or 5 years ( whichever is earlier ).
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The kms for which the tyres last is not the true test of a tyre's character. In fact, in some scenarios, I might even opt for a less lasting tyre to improve on the softness and grip levels. Regardless, the Michelin XM2 and Bridgestone Turanza ER300 series are an ideal mix of all ( Durability, softness & grip levels ). So, you have opted for a good model.

I generally change tyres at around 40k-50k or 5 years ( whichever is earlier ).
Amalji - I in fact chose Michelin XM2 based on your positive feedback on the product in your ownership thread & this thread. Thank you for the suggestion. Not just this, I also use Noom coach, OBD II adapter & Torque Pro App based on your suggestion.
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My Etios Liva G has done 37000 KM with stock MRF 175/65 R14 tyres. Though the TWI says that I can continue to use these tyres, I propose to change the tyres in view of the age of tyres reaching 5 years and 4 months. Since I have experienced underbody scrapping in certain speed breakers in the past, I propose to upgrade to 185/70 R14 tyres against the stock 175 /65 R 14. I observe that the Etios J/G comes with 175/70 R14 tyres. I am not concerned about the speedo/odo error. What I want know is
a) Whether anybody done this type of upsizing and has faced any problems?
b) Should I go for CEAT GRIPP LN 185/70 R14 or Bridgstone AR 20 185/70 R14. I am interested in good braking under wet/dry conditions.
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My Etios Liva G has done 37000 KM with stock MRF 175/65 R14 tyres. Though the TWI says that I can continue to use these tyres, I propose to change the tyres in view of the age of tyres reaching 5 years and 4 months.
185/70 R14 should have a significant impact on the stability of the car since the sidewall goes even higher, which can lead to flexing at the corners. If you are a fast driver, I wouldn't recommend this kind of an upsize.

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Since I have experienced underbody scrapping in certain speed breakers in the past, I propose to upgrade to 185/70 R14 tyres against the stock 175 /65 R 14.
Since, your Etios Liva is 5.5 years old, I guess, it came with the softer suspensions in the initial batches. Did you replace it with the newer stiffer ones ? More information here (Toyota Etios Diesel VD Ownership Report. EDIT : 100,000 km up!)

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CEAT GRIPP LN 185/70 R14 or Bridgstone AR 20 185/70 R14. I am interested in good braking under wet/dry conditions.
Since, the diameter of rotation is increased, even with the 10 mm additional width, your braking distance could actually increase! I would recommend that you go with 15" RIMs with the standard 185/60 R15 tyres, if grip and braking distance are the priority. And I would recommend Bridgestone ER300 or Michelin XM2 as far as brand and model are concerned.

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185/70 R14 should have a significant impact on the stability of the car since the sidewall goes even higher, which can lead to flexing at the corners. If you are a fast driver, I wouldn't recommend this kind of an upsize.
Thanks for the information. Even almost 75% of the tyre dealers were advising not to go for 185/70/R14. Advice accepted and I had replaced my stock MRF ZVTV 175/64/R14 with MRF ZVTS 185/65/R14. Though initially I was planning for Bridgestone/Yokohoma and all, I decided against them due to the price difference as I am planning to replace my car in next 1-2 years. Further, I am quite satisfied with the stock MRF tyres as I had only one puncture despite driving in all kind of roads and braking is also decent.


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Since, your Etios Liva is 5.5 years old, I guess, it came with the softer suspensions in the initial batches. Did you replace it with the newer stiffer ones ? More information here (Toyota Etios Diesel VD Ownership Report. EDIT : 100,000 km up!)
In the initial days, I found the soft suspension is good giving comfortable ride but was upset with the loud thud of the suspension and the underbody scrapping in speed breakers. However, I have now learnt the art of avoiding underbody scrapping even when fully loaded. So, it is not an issue anymore.

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I have a Liva sportivo 1.5 petrol with stock 185/60/15 tyres. I wish to upgrade to 195/60/15 for better grip and stability in highway speeds. Will it have any effect on steering, ride, or cornering. Kindly advice.
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