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Old 20th March 2006, 23:54   #1
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Fellow BHPians..

I have been going thru the various threads on this forum and have not found a specific solution to my combination of issues - hence this thread!

I have an Accent CRDi (that just got kitted out with the Petes Box by our Turbo India himself!! )

My car rides on 195/60 R14 Michelin MXF Sports on HR 8 spoke alloys 6-J rims





- These tyres have rrrreaaalllly lasted!.. but down side - Harsh ride - good only on smooth tarmac roads, very scary if one wheel needs to be dropped onto the shoulder at speed, and crazy ROAR (tyre noise! ) Wife complains she can feel every pebble/indentation on the road! The steering effort has increased for sure - but I kind of like the security of the feedack(steering) that these tyres give! Milage might have sufferd a km or two - I still get 18 on the higway (before Pete-ing).. Have a feeling initially it was more.

I am now due for a tyre change - My rims are 8 holed ones I have had the problems of a slight shudder between 100 -120 kmph etc which other threads in this forum have attributed to "PCD & Offset". I would like to know the following

1. What is the PCD and offset for this size'd rim on an Accent?

2. How to deduce these on this/any other rim.

3. Is a 6J rims better or should I go for a 6.5 J rim in 14".. less flex, better cornering stability? - what are the downsides if any? (Tolerance according to http://www.tongseng.com.hk/Page/Product/G3.html#14inch is apparently 5.5 - 7.0")

4. Are FORGED alloys available in India - I am told these are marginaly more expensive than aluminium alloys - but lighter! (steering effort!)

5. What is a tyre to use - Bridgestone G3/Yokohama AVS100/Dunlop Sp9000/ Pirelli 6000's? I see a lot of nice things on the forum about the Yokos - - I do a lot of highway - roads are a mixture of good highways (becoming rarer and rarer) and some very rough state highways. And YES - it RAINS BIG time in Kerala! Do not want to compromise on Grip, Handling & Ride. Rough road manners/ Low noise will help - and yes the tyres should at least last 35+k under the above mentioned "normal" conditions. (dont want any of the soft compounds - I have a nose heavy diesel!)


Pls help @!!@

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Is a 6J rims better or should I go for a 6.5 J rim in 14".. less flex, better cornering stability? - what are the downsides if any?
Harsh ride...better cornering but dont go beyond 6.5J ...... Heard cases of rims coming off while fast cornering....

ps. U didn't have pete's box during the meet right??? Great if u have got it done
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Thanks KP...


ALL ALLOY 'n TYRE GURUS... Pls HELP!!
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For tyres,i'd suggest Dunlop FM901s.

Our member '5u3zero' has them on his Palio GTX and after the track experience,i'd vouch for them. Check his gallery.

Don't go for the V-treads like EagleF1s or Yoko ES100s since they're not meant for broken highways.
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Harsh ride...better cornering but dont go beyond 6.5J ...... Heard cases of rims coming off while fast cornering....

ps. U didn't have pete's box during the meet right??? Great if u have got it done
he bought one after a test drive and has it on 18+7bhp setting. Let God bless/help the un-petefied cars and others.
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Fellow BHPians..

4. Are FORGED alloys available in India - I am told these are marginaly more expensive than aluminium alloys - but lighter! (steering effort!)

Pls help @!!@
Hi,
Recently i have sold a Forged Billet alluminium wheels ....Very expensive !!!!

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For tyres,i'd suggest Dunlop FM901s.

Our member '5u3zero' has them on his Palio GTX and after the track experience,i'd vouch for them. Check his gallery.

Don't go for the V-treads like EagleF1s or Yoko ES100s since they're not meant for broken highways.
I DId... very interesting looking tyres!!!

Nitrous... Can you elaborate a little bit (in fact LOTS ) on your track experience with these tyres??
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They were like 'quickfix'.

The dunlops glued the GTX onto the track. They did squeal at tight corners ,but not a single hint of traction-loss.

I was IMPRESSED!!
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.. SIGHhhhhh..... You bring a problem to the Forum... and you walk away with MORE options!!!
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Shouldn't going up in rim size help making the gearing taller.
I mean that that should be done. Right..???
I remember it hitting rev limit in top gear on a highway run.
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Forged rims are available in India. Have a look at the 2006 HR catalogue, you'll find around 5 wheel patterns of a brand called Magline which are marketed by HR. The rims are excellent and quite light compared to the regular HR/League wheels. However, they are available in 15 inch and above are available. They are priced slightly higher than the HR range but I feel they are well worth their price.
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>.. And wonder if 205/55's in 15" will scuff... have to ask Drifter that - I think he uses SP9000's of the same size..
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>.. And wonder if 205/55's in 15" will scuff... have to ask Drifter that - I think he uses SP9000's of the same size..
I think he uses 205/50 not 55....with SP9000 rubber
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Yup!!.. You are right!... DRIFTER _ YOUR INPUTS PLZ!!!

There are a few ppl here promising me to get me forged alloys in 14"... got to be careful with these claims- met three shysters yesterday alone!!
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And the tyre... I need some alternative to the 901's

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