Yokohoma ES-100s

[BUSA]

Originally Posted by mclaren1885

Unless you plan to go major on mods for the swift (bigger TC incase of a diesel) or (TC incase of petrol) using tyres at 205 or 215 or 225 will only make your car slower than a STOCK swift .. If thats what you want .. Almost all the TCed swifts and the balenos in bangalore run 195's or max 205's ..

Thanx Mcl,

Under the following circumstances what do you think??

1) After first 1000kms - Its going to be Petefied

2) After 10000kms - KnN and FFE

Yes on the cards later would be bigger TC and Intercooler.

P.S its going to average around 100kms a day so 1 and 2 will be quite fast. So what do you think i should run her on?? and what size rims??

[mclaren1885]

Originally Posted by BUSA

Thanx Mcl,

Under the following circumstances what do you think??

1) After first 1000kms - Its going to be Petefied

2) After 10000kms - KnN and FFE

Yes on the cards later would be bigger TC and Intercooler.

P.S its going to average around 100kms a day so 1 and 2 will be quite fast. So what do you think i should run her on?? and what size rims??

Just stick to 195's then .. Preferably 6-7j rims would suffice .. Just get a new set when u upgrade the TC etc .. So have you finalized on the rubber .. Because one of the rally drivers that i met off lately swore that he would never buy ES-100's as they were crappy and would never let the car go in the direction they wanted to (obvioulsy he was drifting).. Though i do believe his words its hard to imagine .. Do take a close look at the neova's .. I heard they are pretty darn good ..

[BUSA]

Thanks Mcl, I am currently sticking to 195s and then later would upgrade to 205s. Well i am considering Yokohama ES100, Neovas, AVS Sport, Goodyear Eagle F1 GSD3, Potenza GIII. Will find out before i go in for one. Firstly waiting for the car which according to MUL will be manufactured only after 15th April.

[v1p3r]

Originally Posted by mclaren1885

never buy ES-100's as they were crappy

Well you must realise the ES-100s have been around for 3 years or so now, so they're at the end of their lifespan. When they came out, they were the best performance tyres in the market, but now there are far better options, one of which is the Neova.

[Samurai]

Originally Posted by mclaren1885

Because one of the rally drivers that i met off lately swore that he would never buy ES-100's as they were crappy and would never let the car go in the direction they wanted to (obvioulsy he was drifting).. Though i do believe his words its hard to imagine ..

ES-100 is obviously not a good choice for drifting, it has too much road grip, which is good for people like me who don't want to drift in public roads.

[mclaren1885]

Originally Posted by Samurai

ES-100 is obviously not a good choice for drifting, it has too much road grip, which is good for people like me who don't want to drift in public roads.

Not that they have too much grip , infact when he did a 60-60 the wheels were pointed in one direction but when he flicked the steering back though the wheels were pointing in a different direction it seems the car was just going in a straight line .. Now thats scary .. Infact they are so scared that they have decided to destroy that piece of rubber scared infact that if they sell it to someone else they might kill themselves .. So their choices is Neovas by a huge margin followed by eagle f1's ..

[shuvc]

How much do Neova's cost ? Say 195/55 15"s ? Do they come in that size ?

[moralfibre]

No, Advan Neova's are not available in that size. They are available only in 16" upward sizes.

For more info and choosing your tyre, check - Yokohama

[Samurai]

Originally Posted by mclaren1885

Not that they have too much grip , infact when he did a 60-60 the wheels were pointed in one direction but when he flicked the steering back though the wheels were pointing in a different direction it seems the car was just going in a straight line .. Now thats scary ..

Why is it scary? Are ES-100 designed for the purpose these guys are using it for? It is like saying Sledge hammers are crappy because they damage the wall while fixing nails. In my two years experience of using ES-100, I feel they are excellent street tyres, but ordinary or below par in imperfect roads.

[mclaren1885]

Originally Posted by moralfibre

No, Advan Neova's are not available in that size. They are available only in 16" upward sizes.

No neova's are very much available in 15'' .. I have a set of 195/50/15's .. You get them in 55 profile also ..

Samurai - I know these tyres arent meant for the kind of use by those guys .. But when that doesnt happen on michelin's , F1's , sp9000's , neova's , es100's being right up there ought to handle better .. Maybe they handle well at limited speeds but good tyres are meant to handle when one crosses those speeds too .. However this is the conclusion from their POV .. With the experience they have in testing tyres (after running almost every tyre including slicks on their cars) i would generally believe them .. But the others needn't have to .. Also its scary because in some circumstances where real life situations demand advert situations my tyres better well go in the direction i point them to for having paid that wee bit extra over the JK's , MRF's ..

[Jaggu]

mclaren any idea how much neova's are for 15 inchers?

[moralfibre]

McLaren, are they available in 14" too?

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[payam]

guys
i checked the yokohama's web site advan neova is available in 16" onwards.
can you explain me how it is possible that we can find 15" or any size which is not in the site out there?

[v1p3r]

Guy, yokohamatire.com is a US website. They will not have Asian sizes. I had asked people not to go by the website as gospel truth earlier. Looks like no one was listening.

Samurai, it's not a question of what the tyres were designed for. When a competing tyre can regrip instantly during the initiation of a Scandinavian flick, one expects the ES-100 to do so too. But like I mentioned, it is at the end of it's game, having been in the market for about 3 years. I would pick the Neova, Dunlop SP 9000 as better tyres.

Shuvc, Jaggu, expect to pay around 4500 for 195/55 R15s.