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BHPian | ![]() Finally upgraded my Honda City tires from GoogYear GT3 (stock) to Michelin P3ST (195/60 R15). IMHO GoodYear GT3 are the worst possible OEM tires in recent times, they were unbearably noisy and would easily give up grip under medium-hard driving, only plus on them would be their hard compound, no punctures or no issues with side walls what so ever in their 30k lifetime, I've driven with them on good roads bad roads and no roads. Initial impression on P3ST - They are super silent till 100-110 kph, beyond that they are slightly audible (can be also due to crappy sound insulation in City), grip levels have increased marginally (only city driving, yet to push them on highways/corners) and steering has become light in-spite of up-size (low resistance?). Cost = 6150/Tire. Will post a detailed review as and when I complete few km's with them. |
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http://www.team-bhp.com/forum/tyre-a...g-quality.html (JK tyres, simply crappy manufacturing quality!) I have currently done around 27k kms on my car and I have noticed that the rubber on the side walls of the tires seem to be sort of peeling off. I am not sure if this is normal. | |
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I only grudge I have with Michelin & Yoko's is soft sidewalls. Where cars with Michelin & Yoko think twice before driving, I don't have to worry about. Only fitting substitute to JK Vectras would be Continental CPC2 given they have tough side walls. Our Indian roads don't deserve tyres like Michelin Primary LC, PS3T, Yokohama C-Drives & S-Drives. The day anyone of those Vectra goes for a toss I would staright away go in for CPC2. | |
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185/60/R15 84T TL 185/60/R15 84T TL AO 185/60/R15 84H TL 185/60/R15 88H TL XL TL = Tubeless , AO = For Audi Models , XL = Extra Load (Reinforced) , H = 210 kmph , T = 190 kmph So how does one choose the right tyre out of these? | |
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Senior - BHPian | ![]() Michelin & Yokohama are supposed to be babied but on the contrary myself and fellow bhpian Parimal have found these to be very reliable tires. Parimal has LCs on his Punto and has covered 50000+ kms in 3 years time and I have AVS db550 on my Cedia having covered 26000+ kilometres exclusively on the highways since 2010. In both of our cases our work takes us in to areas strewn with broken surface & pot hole infested poor roads, bad roads and at times no more than dirt tracks. Both of us have not had a tire related issue thus far. Have we been lucky? maybe. My city drive a Swift Zxi rides on JK Vectras. I have no complaints with these either. Have done a few highway runs totalling around 6-8000 kms but the remainder of its 22000+ kilometres have been pure bumper to bumper traffic on well paved roads. On the flip side yet another fellow member (DBHPian ss_traveller) had the Vectras on his Swift come apart with only IIRC 20000 kilometres on the odometer. This again with city driving and a very considerate driver who looks after his rides better than the majority of us. Similarly Continental, Bridgestone, Goodyear all are good products and the forum is replete with experiences both good and bad. I believe therefore that all of our views on tires are subjective, based as they are on our own individual experiences. Quote:
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| ![]() It depends on what's actually available in India. Likewise CPC2 is available in 205 55 R15 size internationally but here in India its not. You would basically find a single choice out of those 4 listed in India. I did prefer one with reinforced, extra load and higher speed. Why don't you try 195 60 R15 size compared to stock 185 60 R15. Going in with 195 size GC would increase by 6 mm and there would be a odo error of 2% which is 100 Km recorded as 98 km. Which wont make much difference. Agree with all your points. I had Michelin XM1+ on my Tata Indica and they served in excess of 50,000 Kms without any trouble. I abused them to their limits and no issue whatsoever. I would recommend anyone who wishes to go for Michelin to give XM2 series a try. |
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My choice eyes closed would be 185/60/R15 88H TL XL Btw, I have used CPC2's for 47,000kms and I love those tyres ![]() | |
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I have the same size the stock size in my Superb and going to upgrade to 225/50R16 when my current tyres wear out. Being a FWD there is always wheel spin when you even slightly floor the car from standstill. The extra rubber will help put the power to the ground better. Overall there will be a marginal drop in FE however this will be very negligible to pinch. Last edited by Sahil : 14th January 2014 at 17:41. | |
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BHPian | ![]() My bad, forgot to mention about Madhu's Enterprises (Langford Road) in my initial post ![]() Experience with our very own bhpian Nikhil and Madhu's shop is nothing short of excellent. Spoke to Nikhil a day before and the entire process was completed within an hour the next day. You can always talk to Nikhil for any help in this regard. |
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BHPian | ![]() Time to change tires on my jetta, 206/55/16 The stock nct5 are noisy, I want quiet tires, majorly to be used on highways and high speeds 120-160 kph. What tires should I buy? How are the new apollo verdenstein? thanks |
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BHPian | ![]() These tyres do not appear to have the rolling resistance benefits that made the Primacy LC and MXV8 tyres special for India's roads. That's a shocking omission for a country obsessed with fuel economy!!! |
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Senior - BHPian | ![]() This tire does not fall in the range of offerings catering to the average obsessed consumer. This one is meant for those who are looking for sharp precise handling and high grip levels on all sorts of road surfaces and climatic conditions at sustained high speeds. The customer for this product usually does not have fuel consumption as the buying criteria. |
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BHPian | ![]() I know S class owners who compare and complain about mileage ![]() If there tires are replacements, even in part, for the Primacy LC, then omitting fuel efficient "ENERGY" based tires is a grave oversight for Michelin |
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Michelin websites still display the Primacy LC. Don't know if its discontinued or still available. Maybe the mileage obsessed individual still has the choice of going for it. I've used the Primacy LC for an extended period of time and was very happy with it too. No complaints whatsoever. I recently switched to wider Pilot Sport 3 tyres. The difference in fuel efficiency is very very marginal, but the difference in grip and performance is significant. | |
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