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Old 26th January 2014, 19:05   #31
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I will take that advice with a pinch of salt. Honda may have tested the stock tyres a lot but that doesn't mean they are the best for the car. Thicker rubber 195s will offer much better grip, braking and stability. I have owned a City with 175s and 195s and i can tell you for a fact that the 195s changed the character of my car. I felt bad for not having done it sooner and denied myself the pleasure of driving. Honda doesn't void any warranty when you change the tyres and i have experienced this over a series of honda ownerships. The standard tyres on the city have been chosen to offer the best possible fuel efficiency and that leads to some compromise in other areas/parameters of performance of the car.
What was the difference in mileage between the 175s and 195s?
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What was the difference in mileage between the 175s and 195s?
To be honest around 0.5kml. I had michelins that are silica based tyres. They are lighter I believe.
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Old 26th January 2014, 22:58   #33
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Do we get XM2 in that size in India (185/60R15) because the Michelin site does not seem to list it. URL Below: http://www.michelin.in/tyre/viewall/525

Also on the same table from the link, the minimum Rim Width recommended for 195/60R15 is 5.5. What is the rim width of the HC2014?
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The speedo might have an error of 2-3% due to this upsize, which is within tolerable limits IMO.
Going from 175/65 to 185/65 keeps the speedometer error within 2-3%.

But Somewhere in the forums they mentioned about switching to 195/75 or something like that.

The speedometer error in this case shoots above 10% for 195/75. Will this be a problem?

The error factor drops to less that 4.5% with 195/65. What would be the best upgrade for Honda City considering all the factors?
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What would be the best upgrade for Honda City considering all the factors?
195/60/R15 is the best upgrade. Including screenshot:

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Tyre options include the Michelin Primacy LCs and the Bridgestone Turanza ER60s, the former for superior riding comfort and grip with minimum drop in FE, and the latter for longevity and rough-road usage.
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195/60/R15 is the best upgrade. Including screenshot:


Tyre options include the Michelin Primacy LCs and the Bridgestone Turanza ER60s, the former for superior riding comfort and grip with minimum drop in FE, and the latter for longevity and rough-road usage.
Using the same tool 185/60R15 results in a calculated value of -0.9% for the deviation...I read somewhere that Michelin LC could be prone to punctures as its on the softer side and so I am planning for Michelin XM2. I am still trying to figure out the Rim size if it is 15 x 5J or 15 x 5.5J since the minimum recommended rim size for 195mm tyre is 15 x 5.5J...The Honda service technician I spoke to did not know the rim size and was honest to admit that he does not know and I need to call him again later...
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Using the same tool 185/60R15 results in a calculated value of -0.9% for the deviation...I read somewhere that Michelin LC could be prone to punctures as its on the softer side and so I am planning for Michelin XM2. I am still trying to figure out the Rim size if it is 15 x 5J or 15 x 5.5J since the minimum recommended rim size for 195mm tyre is 15 x 5.5J...The Honda service technician I spoke to did not know the rim size and was honest to admit that he does not know and I need to call him again later...
Rim size is 15 x 5.5J.

The 2014 City brochure doesn't mention it but the previous-gen City's brochure had it highlighted in the Specifications sheet of the brochure.

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RavenAvi, how will this difference affect cruise control? Will the reading be slightly off or the speed will be slightly off?
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RavenAvi, how will this difference affect cruise control? Will the reading be slightly off or the speed will be slightly off?
Shouldn't affect much, since the difference is minimal and marginal enough to be ignored (less than 1 kmph).

Only difference might come in ABS kicking - it might kick in a wee bit later than the cars riding on 175/65, again marginal enough to be ignored.

As I said, 195/60 is the perfect upgrade.
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195/60/R15 is the best upgrade. Including screenshot:


Tyre options include the Michelin Primacy LCs and the Bridgestone Turanza ER60s, the former for superior riding comfort and grip with minimum drop in FE, and the latter for longevity and rough-road usage.
185/55 16 is much more accurate. The same is used in Honda City Malaysia as someone was mentioned.
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195/60/R15 is the best upgrade.

Tyre options include the Michelin Primacy LCs and the Bridgestone Turanza ER60s, the former for superior riding comfort and grip with minimum drop in FE, and the latter for longevity and rough-road usage.
One can also get Michelin XM2 in 195/60/R15. I would consider it a better all rounder compared to P LC and Turanza.

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185/55 16 is much more accurate. The same is used in Honda City Malaysia as someone was mentioned.
185/55 R16 will look sweet in the new City. But the downside is very limited choice for tyres and one will need new alloys as well. But any reason to swap the OEM alloys in the new City is good reason.
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..185/55 R16 will look sweet in the new City. But the downside is very limited choice for tyres and one will need new alloys as well. But any reason to swap the OEM alloys in the new City is good reason.
What make of tyres are available with this size in India? Thanks.
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What make of tyres are available with this size in India? Thanks.
Very limited options as mentioned earlier. I think Hankook, Yoko and Nankang have them. I had checked them for our Swift, the UK model also run the same spec.
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185/55 16 is much more accurate. The same is used in Honda City Malaysia as someone was mentioned.
Yes it is but changing the rim size might void the warranty of your car. It might also cause problems with the ABS sensors. Better to stick with stock rim size and upgrade the tyres only.
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Rim size is 15 x 5.5J.
The 2014 City brochure doesn't mention it but the previous-gen City's brochure had it highlighted in the Specifications sheet of the brochure.
Spoke to the Honda Service Technician again and he has confirmed the same that it is 15 x 5.5J. Wonder why Honda has missed providing the details on the India website while they provide it on the Malaysian site...

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