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Old 1st October 2016, 21:08   #91
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Default MIchelin XM2 185 65 R14 for Figo Titanium TCDi

At last brought home the all new ford figo titanium TCDI oxford white.

Wanted to upgrade to 195 55 R15, but somehow wanted to retain the stock alloys. Ford Figo Alloys look like "idly trays" from a distance but when observed from near, the design looks smart. It has been growing on me for the past few days.

Tried the 195 60 R14, but that was a sqeeze on the stock alloys and the tyre juts out of the fender in the front. So zeroed on the 185 65 R14 Michelin XM2
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My 2 cents
- Superb tyres for the price (had used them for 20k km on the Dzire)
- MRF made a lot of road noise, after the Michelin upgrade the road noise is nil. Grip is fantastic.
-I did not notice any significant change in the steering weight. It was still vague, but in a good way.
-I have not tried cornering, but ride has become more cushy. The expansion joints are dismissed off with a thud than a crash of the stock MRFs.

At the tyre shop
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Recommended upgrade for Figo / Aspire for in town use
Fingers crossed on the side wall problems the XM1s have been having

Buy back for MRFs Rs 2700/tyre
Michelins costed Rs 4900/tyre
Filled them to 33psi and balancing was done on stock alloys.
Upgrade is not evident from the side (Variance in diameter is a mere 2.2%)
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More photos and review soon
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Tried the 195 60 R14, but that was a sqeeze on the stock alloys and the tyre juts out of the fender in the front. So zeroed on the 185 65 R14 Michelin XM2
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Thanks for the update. Can you throw some light on this part? I mean this sqeeze that you mentioned, is it detrimental by any chance? plus I believe the tyre well is designed to take on the 195 section tyres, then why is the jutting out a problem? All this because I am really looking fwd to this particular size, the 195/60 R14 and I also love the stock alloys.
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I am not quite sure if this has been discussed here already (Couldn't find a related post).
Would it be a bad idea to install 16" wheels and tires on the Figo ?
Looking at various pictures, I couldn't help but notice more space. Would the tires touch the walls while turning ?
The reason I ask is purely for Aesthetic purposes.
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Would it be a bad idea to install 16" wheels and tires on the Figo ? Looking at various pictures, I couldn't help but notice more space. Would the tires touch the walls while turning ? The reason I ask is purely for Aesthetic purposes.
Hi Coplay, I would personally advise against 16" on the Figo, and ask you to limit yourself to only 15", for these reasons:
  1. Its not just the visual appearance of space, but the clearances that the designers provide that is also to be considered (as you've rightly pointed out about tyres touching).
  2. So, if you fit 16" rims without increasing the overall diameter of wheel+tyre, then your tyres will be very low profile, resulting in a harsh ride, particularly on the kind of roads we have in India. It is for this reason why even the big 3 German marques offer 18 - 19" rims in Europe where the roads are perfect but reduce it by an inch or so for Indian conditions.
  3. If you fit 16" rims but decide to increase the diameter of wheel+tyre, so you get more sidewall for extra cushioning effect, then the risk of tyres touching are increased, because even internationally the Figo is offered with only 14" or 15" rims and never with 16". Furthermore, the added weight of the wheel+tyre will increase the unsprung mass of the car, making the suspension less reactive to bad roads, and diminishing comfort.

It is best to look at the range of tyre sizes that a car is sold with internationally, and limit it to those tested sizes (e.g. the Polo internationally runs on larger rims); or look at cars that the manufacturer sells with larger rims even in India (e.g. Punto).
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... Tried the 195/60 R14, but that was a sqeeze on the stock alloys and the tyre juts out of the fender in the front. So zeroed on the 185/65 R14 Michelin XM2 .............
Fingers crossed on the side wall problems the XM1s have been having...
My Figo TDCi has crossed the 40,000KM mark on 185/65/R14 Michelin XM2s and the tyres still look like they have another 20K KM of cushy life left in them(although I'm planning to change them at the 50K KM mark). There have been absolutely no sidewall problems so far!!!

I have the 195/60/R14 Michelins in my mind for the next tyre change. Did you really find this size a misfit technically speaking or was it just an aesthetic misfit?!

Pic: The Michelins at the 40,000KM mark during WA/WB
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My Figo TDCi has crossed the 40,000KM mark on 185/65/R14 Michelin XM2s and the tyres still look like they have another 20K KM of cushy life left in them(although I'm planning to change them at the 50K KM mark). There have been absolutely no sidewall problems so far!!!

I have the 195/60/R14 Michelins in my mind for the next tyre change. Did you really find this size a misfit technically speaking or was it just an aesthetic misfit?!
Hi Praveen,

Why mess with something that's running perfectly ?

Would advise you to stick with 185/65-14.
1. +1 size to stock size is the safest bet. 195s on stock rims may have negative impact on handling. Spongy feeling while hard braking or cornering.
2. Michelin always has good inventory of 185/65 R14 because of good demand. 195/60 R14 may get phased out as most cars with 195s are coming in 15" only.

Note : I have used 185/65 R14 tires on my cars(Stock size 175/65R14) for over 2 lac kms.
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.. Would advise you to stick with 185/65-14.
1. +1 size to stock size is the safest bet. 195s on stock rims may have negative impact on handling. Spongy feeling while hard braking or cornering.
2. Michelin always has good inventory of 185/65 R14 because of good demand. 195/60 R14 may get phased out as most cars with 195s are coming in 15" only.
Note : I have used 185/65 R14 tires on my cars(Stock size 175/65R14) for over 2 lac kms.
Thanks for the inputs

Yes! 185/65/R14 looks like the best upgrade for Figo/Aspire (stock alloys). I think if one wants to go for 195 section tyres then they have to upgrade the alloys to 15'' as well or maybe go for 14'' alloys slightly wider than the stocks!!
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Hi Coplay, I would personally advise against 16" on the Figo, and ask you to limit yourself to only 15", for these reasons:
  1. Its not just the visual appearance of space, but the clearances that the designers provide that is also to be considered (as you've rightly pointed out about tyres touching).
  2. So, if you fit 16" rims without increasing the overall diameter of wheel+tyre, then your tyres will be very low profile, resulting in a harsh ride, particularly on the kind of roads we have in India. It is for this reason why even the big 3 German marques offer 18 - 19" rims in Europe where the roads are perfect but reduce it by an inch or so for Indian conditions.
  3. If you fit 16" rims but decide to increase the diameter of wheel+tyre, so you get more sidewall for extra cushioning effect, then the risk of tyres touching are increased, because even internationally the Figo is offered with only 14" or 15" rims and never with 16". Furthermore, the added weight of the wheel+tyre will increase the unsprung mass of the car, making the suspension less reactive to bad roads, and diminishing comfort.

It is best to look at the range of tyre sizes that a car is sold with internationally, and limit it to those tested sizes (e.g. the Polo internationally runs on larger rims); or look at cars that the manufacturer sells with larger rims even in India (e.g. Punto).
Thanks ArunPhilip. Everything you said makes complete sense. Mine was just a casual query.

Cheers,
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