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Old 26th March 2009, 13:14   #226
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About the tyres, I would agree with the GM, there's nothing much that can be done apart from fixing spacers or wheels with negative offset. Both are not advised though unless you get a professionally made spacer kit.
Thanks iraghava for your reply!

I have one question though: I read in another Baleno wheel thread that one option is to harden the suspension. Request your thoughts on this.

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Old 22nd April 2009, 17:09   #227
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The time is near for a new set of tyres.

I currently use 195/60/14 Goodyear Eagle F1's on stock 14" VXi alloys. I've been pretty happy with these tyres. The only grouse is that they are very noisy of late.

They've run close to 36K kms in around 2.5years. I could possibly stretch them for another 10K. However, I think it's better to be safe with tyres coupled with the fact that monsoons are around the corner.

The plan is to change in the next 2 months at the outside. I want to stick to the 195/60/14 size. Criteria as below:

- Car has no performance mods
- Usage will be on fairly decent roads
- FE is not an issue
- Speeds mostly around 100. Highways may see them touch 160. But I've become kinda sedate nowadays !
- No track usage
- No drags
- Ride is not a big criteria
- Decent cornering grip (I'm not competent enough to test the extremes)
- Excellent wet weather grip
- Excellent braking
- Road noise as low as possible (I know most 'performance' tyres will have noise. Phir bhi .. the lesser of the evils)

Price is also a factor. I'm willing to compromise a bit on the capability of the tyres if the price is drastically lower.

What are my options?

AVS-ES100 ?
F1-GSD3 ?
PP1 ?
Advan Neova ? !!!!!!!!
BFG-Sport ?

PP2 and S-Drive - Do they come in that size?

EDIT : Please indicate the approx prices of the tyres. I'd be getting them at Kolkata. Unless of course 'Tyre Bhagwan' suggests otherwise

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Old 23rd April 2009, 10:38   #228
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What are my options?

AVS-ES100 ?
F1-GSD3 ?
PP1 ?
Advan Neova ? !!!!!!!!
BFG-Sport ?

PP2 and S-Drive - Do they come in that size?

EDIT : Please indicate the approx prices of the tyres. I'd be getting them at Kolkata. Unless of course 'Tyre Bhagwan' suggests otherwise
Yoko ES100s - SOUM complained of sidewall cracks - they cost around 4100 /- IIRC / Rahulkool (Palio 1.6 Stile) said they are very good.

F1 GSD2 / GSD3 - a certain black car used to sport GSD2s (185/65 R14) now has GSD3s in the front (185/65 R14) and GSD2s in the rear (185/65 R14) - the owner said that they are good - they were 4100/- (185/65 r14) couple of months back.

M-PP2 - everyone loves them - great value for the price you pay.

Advan Neova - not required IMO

BFG Sport - The D said they were good on his white car.

S Drives - no idea

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AVS-ES100 ( 195/60-R14)on my Accent doesnt give a very confident feel in so far as wet grip is considered. The tire is excellent otherwise. have driven only 2.5k with it). Virtually no road noise even high speeds.

I have no issues with Road grip which had increased a lot with respect to stock ( which almost did 51k) and is still capable of doing 10K. I have retained the stock tires with rims ( 165/70 R 13) since I was getting only Rs.400 (for each) which in spite of the fact the shop owner claimed that it should run another 15km without any hassle.
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Old 23rd April 2009, 11:03   #230
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I have been using GSD3 for the last few months. Drove 16k. They were performing really well initially. But somehow after 10k, the performance (in terms of braking) has degraded drastically, though I take care of my tyres a lot. Atleast that is what I feel.
Plus its very puncture prone (thanks to the soft compound). Noise is very less and no way near to what I heard about GSD2. Infact, Minku (Goodyear distributor) mentioned that GY worked on GSD3 to reduce road noise.
I would suggest you go for PP2 (as its tried and tested and everyone loves it). But if looks matter to you a lot and you compromise a little here and there, IMHO GSD3 has no competitor. But again looks are relative.
Oh one thing, wet weather grip is awesome and that has not degraded yet. But again monsoon is yet to hit Kolkata.
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Old 23rd April 2009, 12:06   #231
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Just called up Yoko office at Delhi.

Spoke to a very helpful person - Sanjay Chauhan.

Got the following quotes/mrp's for 195/60/14

A-Drives - 3.7xxx
AVS-ES100 - 4.2xxx
AD07 - 5.2xxx

Do these sound ok? Or should dealer prices be 10-20% lower than these?

Kolkata Yoko authorised dealers as per them are 3 in number:
Lamba Tyres
Maya Tyres
Indo Radial Club

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I have a query. Maybe not the right thread to put it. But still...
Can a tube type tyre be used as a tubeless tyre with the tubeless tyre valve fitted to it?
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@ the C - i think you are inclined towards Yokos - i read somewhere in the forum that AD07s are good for dry tarmac - wet grip is kinda ok (because of the wider treads)!!

@ the C - PP2s should be ideal for you in 195/60 R14.

@ Pushpak/vr(7os)m - get in touch with XetaGLSrocks/saby or go through this: http://www.team-bhp.com/forum/tyre-a...ess-tyres.html (Weird issue with Goodyear GT3 Tubeless Tyres)

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Why do you want Advans? They're high performance tyres, and don't last long. Not the right choice for you IMO.

PP2s aren't available in 195/60/14. PP1s are. Would be my choice.
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How come you didn't get a quote for the S-Drives from the Yoko guy? If they're available in this size, could be option B. ES100s are an old product, and I wasn't that impressed by their cornering abilities to be honest. A Drives are economy/comfort tyres, so I doubt you'll be impressed by their grip levels after using GSD2s.

Oh, btw, have you thought of replacing the old GSD2s with new GSD2s?
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@ the C - i think you are inclined towards Yokos
That I am. I'd have ideally picked up S-Drives. But they don't make them in that size.

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@ the C - PP2s should be ideal for you in 195/60 R14.
PP2's in 195/60/14? I thought only PP1s came in that size.
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Oh, btw, have you thought of replacing the old GSD2s with new GSD2s?
That is an option. But haven't they stopped production of the GSD2s in that size and replaced with the GSD3s? I guess most of the current stock would be old.
Would also want newer launched tyres. Hence I am not too inclined towards the ES100 and GIIIs.

So the options arising are:

GSD3 (price?)
AD07 - 5.2xxx
PP1 - (price?)

Very few options IMO. Anything else?
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Hey while everyne is talking about price id like to know ho wmuch these cost

195/60-14
Bfg g-force
Hankook ventus rs-2
PP2

195/55-15
Bfg g-force
Hankook ventus rs-2
PP2
s-drive
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Hey while everyne is talking about price id like to know ho wmuch these cost

195/60-14
Bfg g-force
Hankook ventus rs-2
PP2
Do PP2's come in that size?

How much would the street price of the AD07s be?
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AVS-ES100 ? Over the hill, don't consider.
F1-GSD3 ? All show not much go, wear out like crazy. Ask GTO.
PP1 ? Your best bet.
Advan Neova ? !!!!!!!! Overkill. Like way way over.
BFG-Sport ? Next best bet, after PP1.

PP2 and S-Drive - Do they come in that size? No.
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How much would the street price of the AD07s be?
Ask crazydiablo, he picked them up. They're either 5600 or 4600 per tyre. But trust me, they aren't for you. They wear out quickly and are super-noisy.

Stick with the PP1s or the BFGs. I've driven every one of these tyres and find these 2 offer the best blend of comfort, grip, silence, and VFM. They will both last you over 30-35k kms of normal driving. The only issue with the PP1s seems to be a fondness for sidewall bulges -- I think Ishan had some issues. That would nudge me towards the BFGs, which are pretty good. If you can, look for Hankook Ventus R-S2 tyres. They are budget Neova alternatives, you may like to try them out, if you find them.
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The Ad07s are 5.2xx as he mentioned.

I thought abt the PP2s in 185/60 R14. I know the size is not the proper upsize and everything, but for the decrease in ride comfort and speedo error, isnt the good grip of the PP2 worth it?
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