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Old 13th April 2017, 19:43   #1
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It claims that Bridgestone Ecopia has
  • Better rolling resistance translating into 7-10% fuel savings.
  • Better braking in wet conditions
  • Great cornering ability
  • Durable due to some special compounds used
  • Cheaper

So, where does it loose out on ? Anyone with real experience of the ecopia who can give a more realistic pros/cons of the same ?

PS: I normally switch between Bridgestone Turanza ER300 and Michelin XM series and am happy with both of them. But, ecopia seems to be an interesting proposition for my next tyre change.
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Old 14th April 2017, 07:51   #2
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Just checked the reviews of it on an Australian website and all of them seem to be agree that
  • Wet grip is poor.
  • High road noise
  • Sidewall is stiff ( and should logically affect comfort as well )

So, this seems to be a mileage only tyre.

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I know someone with the Ecopias on a 380 and they commented that wet weather grip wasn't good.
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The Ecopia tyre is biased towards good fuel efficiency, ie it would have stiff sidewalls and hard rubber compound to achieve long life and low rolling resistance. So in a wet climate (Queensland) they may not be the best deal grip wise.
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I have Ecopia tyres on my Aurion and they're horrendous for road noise. Grip is nothing to write home about either.
I don't know how they contribute to fuel economy as they were on the Aurion when I bought it.
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Got similar economy oriented tyres on the CJ Lancer, from the factory, different brand though. Sidewalls are very stiff to the point tyre pressure can drop to 10 psi without affecting sidewall bulge (there isn't any), rolling resistance is low, but noise is terrible. Tread pattern encourages picking up bits of gravel, which adds to the noise, and they love picking up nails and screws off the road for the added noise of a screw head hitting the road every rotation. Can't wait for them to wear out. (not putting "4 for the price of 3" Bridgestones on it though.)
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I have Bridgestone Ecopia 225/55/17 on my 380 and found them to be quiet and reasonably comfortable.
The grip is good in dry and wet conditions but very loose when damp.
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Ecopias are now off the table. Had a discussion with the service techs at Mitsubishi this morning and they seemed to agree that the grip just isn't there. Consensus is leaning toward the Potenza RE003 or Turanza T001.
But, real indian reviews will help since we are talking of different driving conditions here ( average speed, road condition, and even the model will be different here along with the expectations from a tyre )

A good article on low rolling resistance ( higher fuel economy ) tyres and the technology used - https://www.edmunds.com/fuel-economy...-movement.html

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Default Re: Bridgestone Ecopia - How good or bad are these tyres?

Here's a review from a BHPian. Seems to be just like any other mass market tyre of India (hard, noisy, long lasting etc.).

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Bridgestone tends to last longer and hence can be noisy. I was using Bridgestone Ecopia and very recently changed them after 40k kms. They were still looking to last another 30k with all the grooves intact. But they were very noisy. After I changed my shocks to Bilstein they were more noisy, so decided to go with Falken even if I had to let go of good condition tyres.
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Bridgestone Ecopia 100: 215/60/16[/b]: After I returned MRF, I just played safe and went back to stock size. This was the green tyre with improved mileage with less rolling resistance and yes it delivered on mileage, I noticed at least 10% improvement in mileage. But then it was noisy. The most on all tyres I have used. It was long lasting too. After I upgraded my suspension to Bilstein B6, I felt it became too noisy.
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Reference video
That's a sales pitch if I ever saw one. Screams ADVERTORIAL.
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Reviewing these low rolling resistance long lasting eco tyres is a bit pointless according to me since they do more the job of lasting longer than performing their best duties as a tyre and the car's contact patch for me. That's said Michellin energy and Yokohama earth 1s are the best bet amongst the lot since they don't perform too poorly when it comes to grip, braking and wet traction and ride quality in comparison to the rest of the bargain eco tyres out there. If one is looking for a bargain they ought to check out Fallen Sinceras their price, performance for the price, warranty and replacement policy makes them the strongest eco budget tyres IMO
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Here's a review from a BHPian. Seems to be just like any other mass market tyre of India (hard, noisy, long lasting etc.).
Thanks for the confirmation, GTO!

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That's a sales pitch if I ever saw one. Screams ADVERTORIAL.
It's sad that automobile journalism in India ( except for tbhp ) has become something like a news reader's job with one difference - that the script is prepared by the automobile companies. Even organizations like overdrive just read the script that companies give them.

I had attended one of Toyota's press conferences and not a single meaningful question was asked during that session, and all of them just gulped and re-transmitted what Toyota gave it to them as a printed press brief.

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That's said Michellin energy and Yokohama earth 1s are the best bet amongst the lot since they don't perform too poorly when it comes to grip, braking and wet traction and ride quality in comparison to the rest of the bargain eco tyres out there. If one is looking for a bargain they ought to check out Fallen Sinceras their price, performance for the price, warranty and replacement policy makes them the strongest eco budget tyres IMO
How would you compare Bridgestone Turanza ER300 vis-a-vis Michelin Energy series and Yoko Earth 1 ?

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The first time I heard of the Ecopia was at the tyre-dealer's while looking to change the two crappy OE JK-Vectras on our AStar-AT. I was looking for the Bridgestone B290 which was what I had put as replacement tyre on the car earlier, but was told they are not available anymore. And that the new kid on the block is the Ecopia, with the sales pitch being "fuel savings".

The car hasn't been driven much by me in the 2 months since the Ecopias came on, to provide feedback. In the minimal driving I did, did not notice anything that really stood out (good or bad) - just another budget tyre that does the job.
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