Tyres for Hyundai Verna - Edit: Review of Yoko C.Drive - Team-BHP

Sam Kapasi · 7th December 2006, 22:35

Hello children,

I've got myself a Hyundai verna CRDi. Well, it takes 5 weeks to deliver.

It's going to be my daily to work car, with a driver almost 80% of the time. I do not intend to change the stock wheels.

Ride comfort is of great importance to me, more than performance. It's a company car and i will be driven to work everyday.

The original tyres are Bridgestone 165. Thats all I know, v1p3r tells me he thinks they are 165/14/70. I also know that if you take the hyundai alloy wheels they offer 175 tyres.

Now the only thing I intend to do, to the otherwise stock verna is change the tyres for some nice tubeless better tyres.
(The other thing will be to put a half decent audio system, i may not need advice with that)

So gentlemen, I request your advice on a tyre upsize, without changing the wheels and a brand and model.
I like the Michelin Certis, have ridden them on an earlier car. C3PO tells me Yokohama tyres will be good too and tells me Federal aren't that good.
So if i can have some opinions, I would be very obliged.

manson · 7th December 2006, 23:05

firstly, i'm guessing the red car is staying (?)

secondly, have no experience with then brands you have mentioned, but the bridgestone gIII s are great, have them on my ikon.

lastly, RT and I spotted your long lost sister this evening!!!

manson.

hydrashok · 7th December 2006, 23:06

Sam, I don't think Michelin makes the Certis anymore. Now their comfort range is called Energy XM. Highly recommended! Sightly costlier than others, but these tyres are really good! And you get 4 years warranty as against 3 year warranty from the others (not that warranty means anything as far as tyres are concerned).

Sam Kapasi · 7th December 2006, 23:16

Quote:

Originally Posted by manson

firstly, i'm guessing the red car is staying (?)

OfCOURSE!!

Quote:

Originally Posted by manson

lastly, RT and I spotted your long lost sister this evening!!!

huh??

manson · 7th December 2006, 23:20

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sam Kapasi

huh??

she was on a kinetic honda, the huh gives rise to a Kumbh ka Mela script!!

manson.

iraghava · 7th December 2006, 23:32

Sam the stock size for the CRDi is 175/70 R14 so based on that & you wanting to keep the stock rims which I am assuming is 5.5J sized, here are the upgrade options:

185/65 R14 (Standard on the top-of-the line petrol model)
195/60 R14
205/60 R14

I would personally recommend the 195 or 205 sizes since both are good upgrades & won't compromise your ride comfort also. As for tyres since Ride Comfort is top priority you should go in for Michelin Energy XM1's. Great tyre, good ride & minimal road noise, don't go for Certis's as they have a known problem with sidewall bulges.

Also will check the wheel size tomorrow & confirm once again to you.

EDIT: Congratulations!!! (forgot to say that earlier!!)

manson · 7th December 2006, 23:39

ishan wont the 205 s be overdoing it, we're talking 14" wheels bro.
185/65 would be perfect keeping in mind your priority is comfort.

manson.

Sam Kapasi · 7th December 2006, 23:40

Looks like i need to check out the michelin Energy XM1 as hydrashok and iraghava have suggested.
Is it ok to put 195/205 on the stock rims?

@maNNson - you saw a girl on a kinetic that looked like ME

She must be really scary looking, man.

Note to self: Team-BHP does not tolerate any sexist slurs or personal attacks.
Next time your hairy backside shall be kicked by yourself. Hard.

iraghava · 7th December 2006, 23:44

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sam Kapasi

Is it ok to put 195/205 on the stock rims?

195's should be perfectly fine, no problems there. I'm planning to get the same size on my stock rims too which are the same size as the Verna's.

Quote:

Originally Posted by manson

ishan wont the 205 s be overdoing it, we're talking 14" wheels bro.

Not really I've seen people put 205's on stock Accent 13" rims!! But in the Verna's case the 205 is also a good option since the difference in OD of 175 & 205 is only 0.17% & also 205's can be mounted on 5.5J size rims.

But I guess for his use 195's would be perfect, not to mention they would look nice too!

viper · 8th December 2006, 07:32

Hey Sam,

Congratulations. My suggestion put 195/60/14 Yokohoma ES100 tyres. They are very silent and offer superb road grip in all conditions.

Viper

vid6639 · 8th December 2006, 07:40

Hey Sam,

Congrats on your purchase.

I would recommend the 195/60-14 bridgestone turanza ER-60. These are indian made bridgestones and they have a sidewall protector against stones. I have fitted this exact same tyres on my lancer and found that this had the least noise at the same time offering good grip and ride.

They come with a 4 year replacement warranty.

The michelin Energy XM1 are repplacement to the certis. They are good tyres but have had a few problems since they are of a softer compound rubber.

The best size would be 195/60-14 for the verna.

WasavaTyres · 8th December 2006, 08:45

Quote:

Originally Posted by viper

Hey Sam,

Congratulations. My suggestion put 195/60/14 Yokohoma ES100 tyres. They are very silent and offer superb road grip in all conditions.

Viper

I second that ,the ES 100 is really good,and looks stunning too.If you're into 'brands' as such then it's the michelin energy XM1 for you.But if you're going in for michelin you might as well stick to 185/65/R14

Samurai · 8th December 2006, 09:59

Quote:

Originally Posted by iraghava

185/65 R14 (Standard on the top-of-the line petrol model)
195/60 R14
205/60 R14

Assuming stock size of 175/70R14 on 5.5J wheels.

205/60 R14: GC will increase by 0.5mm, speedo error 0.5%, would be a good upgrade. Check whether wheel well has enough room though.
195/60 R14: GC will decrease by 5.5mm, speedo error 1.8%, reduction in GC is a concern.
185/65 R14: GC will decrease by 2.3mm, speedo error 0.7%, would be a good upgrade.

In other words, 205/60 has the widest sidewall, best for comfort, and best looks. It also has the least speedo error, it also has the best grip. Only downside would be increased road contact, which means less FE and car should be powerful enough to compensate for increased road resistance, and wheel well should be big. I think verna CRDi has the power to handle the 205 tyres.

Sam, go for the 205/60R14 if it fits the wheel well. And I recommend Yokohama ES100, I have it on my Baleno and it does have great looks and performance.

The tyre on the right is Yokohama.

rchimni · 8th December 2006, 10:08

I would suggest the michelin energy XM1 , very silent , excellent ride and holds well on both dry and wet surfaces , I would think the 185/65/r14 should suffice..

maxbhp · 8th December 2006, 10:20

I back on Bridgestone GIII , EV100 Yoko's arent bad either . Both provide some outstanding levels of grip .....which is very much needed for Verna , Just waiting to hear from you about her handling after your tyre change and I recommend 205,60profile tyre..(14")

7th December 2006, 22:35	#1 (permalink)
Sam Kapasi Distinguished - BHPian Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Bombay (but watch this space) Posts: 7,085 View My Garage	Tyres for Hyundai Verna - Edit: Review of Yoko C.Drive Hello children, I've got myself a Hyundai verna CRDi. Well, it takes 5 weeks to deliver. It's going to be my daily to work car, with a driver almost 80% of the time. I do not intend to change the stock wheels. Ride comfort is of great importance to me, more than performance. It's a company car and i will be driven to work everyday. The original tyres are Bridgestone 165. Thats all I know, v1p3r tells me he thinks they are 165/14/70. I also know that if you take the hyundai alloy wheels they offer 175 tyres. Now the only thing I intend to do, to the otherwise stock verna is change the tyres for some nice tubeless better tyres. (The other thing will be to put a half decent audio system, i may not need advice with that) So gentlemen, I request your advice on a tyre upsize, without changing the wheels and a brand and model. I like the Michelin Certis, have ridden them on an earlier car. C3PO tells me Yokohama tyres will be good too and tells me Federal aren't that good. So if i can have some opinions, I would be very obliged. __________________ Live the YetiLife® *Zehn Tage*

7th December 2006, 23:05	#2 (permalink)
manson Senior - BHPian Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: mUmbAi Posts: 1,711 View My Garage	firstly, i'm guessing the red car is staying (?) secondly, have no experience with then brands you have mentioned, but the bridgestone gIII s are great, have them on my ikon. lastly, RT and I spotted your long lost sister this evening!!! manson. __________________ Robin

7th December 2006, 23:06	#3 (permalink)
hydrashok Senior - BHPian Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: In my Office Posts: 2,150 View My Garage	Sam, I don't think Michelin makes the Certis anymore. Now their comfort range is called Energy XM. Highly recommended! Sightly costlier than others, but these tyres are really good! And you get 4 years warranty as against 3 year warranty from the others (not that warranty means anything as far as tyres are concerned). __________________ Alpine 9887 \| TRU Tech S44 \| Image Dynamics XS65 \| Image Dynamics IDQ12 D2V2 \| Connection Audison

7th December 2006, 23:32	#6 (permalink)
iraghava Distinguished - BHPian Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Bhaiyyaland Posts: 7,758 View My Garage	Sam the stock size for the CRDi is 175/70 R14 so based on that & you wanting to keep the stock rims which I am assuming is 5.5J sized, here are the upgrade options: 185/65 R14 (Standard on the top-of-the line petrol model) 195/60 R14 205/60 R14 I would personally recommend the 195 or 205 sizes since both are good upgrades & won't compromise your ride comfort also. As for tyres since Ride Comfort is top priority you should go in for Michelin Energy XM1's. Great tyre, good ride & minimal road noise, don't go for Certis's as they have a known problem with sidewall bulges. Also will check the wheel size tomorrow & confirm once again to you. EDIT: Congratulations!!! (forgot to say that earlier!!) __________________ There is a very fine line between "Hobby" and "Mental Illness". Last edited by iraghava : 7th December 2006 at 23:41. Reason: Forgot the Congratulations

7th December 2006, 23:39	#7 (permalink)
manson Senior - BHPian Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: mUmbAi Posts: 1,711 View My Garage	ishan wont the 205 s be overdoing it, we're talking 14" wheels bro. 185/65 would be perfect keeping in mind your priority is comfort. manson. __________________ Robin

7th December 2006, 23:40	#8 (permalink)
Sam Kapasi Distinguished - BHPian Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Bombay (but watch this space) Posts: 7,085 View My Garage	Looks like i need to check out the michelin Energy XM1 as hydrashok and iraghava have suggested. Is it ok to put 195/205 on the stock rims? @maNNson - you saw a girl on a kinetic that looked like ME She must be really scary looking, man. Note to self: Team-BHP does not tolerate any sexist slurs or personal attacks. Next time your hairy backside shall be kicked by yourself. Hard. __________________ Live the YetiLife® *Zehn Tage*

8th December 2006, 07:32	#10 (permalink)
viper Senior - BHPian Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Back in Mumbai Posts: 2,065 View My Garage	Hey Sam, Congratulations. My suggestion put 195/60/14 Yokohoma ES100 tyres. They are very silent and offer superb road grip in all conditions. Viper __________________ *NO ONE DARES COME CLOSE*

8th December 2006, 07:40	#11 (permalink)
vid6639 Distinguished - BHPian Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Bangalore Posts: 3,578 View My Garage	Hey Sam, Congrats on your purchase. I would recommend the 195/60-14 bridgestone turanza ER-60. These are indian made bridgestones and they have a sidewall protector against stones. I have fitted this exact same tyres on my lancer and found that this had the least noise at the same time offering good grip and ride. They come with a 4 year replacement warranty. The michelin Energy XM1 are repplacement to the certis. They are good tyres but have had a few problems since they are of a softer compound rubber. The best size would be 195/60-14 for the verna. __________________ \ / ][ \|) `/ [_] "!" (\./) (o.o) ( X ) This is Bunny. Copy Bunny into your signature to help him achieve world domination.

8th December 2006, 10:08	#14 (permalink)
rchimni BHPian Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Manila Posts: 135 View My Garage	I would suggest the michelin energy XM1 , very silent , excellent ride and holds well on both dry and wet surfaces , I would think the 185/65/r14 should suffice..

8th December 2006, 10:20	#15 (permalink)
maxbhp Senior - BHPian Join Date: May 2006 Location: C C K Posts: 1,102 View My Garage	I back on Bridgestone GIII , EV100 Yoko's arent bad either . Both provide some outstanding levels of grip .....which is very much needed for Verna , Just waiting to hear from you about her handling after your tyre change and I recommend 205,60profile tyre..(14") __________________ People drive to live ,I live to drive. -maxbhp

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