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Old 23rd November 2004, 21:35   #1
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hey

a lancer usually comes with a 13 or 14 inch rim
i want to put a 15 inch rim wid 205 width so i was jus wonderin if its poss and whts the largest rim i could put and if i put a 15 inch rim will i hav to make any adjustment wid my suspension and will it hamper with performance
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Whats the OE tyre size for the Lancer?

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whats oe

do u mean original??
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Yup, original equipment.

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For a 175/70 R 13, the ideal upgrade would be.
1. 195/50 R 15
2. 205/45 R 15

or if you want 16" wheels then a 205/40 R 16 will do (but it's just not practical on indian roads).

I would personally suggest 195/50 R 15. That way, you'l get the best combination between ride quality and handling.

let me know your OE tyre size so that i can recalculate.

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Quote[/b] ]i want to put a 15 inch rim wid 205 width so i was jus wonderin if its poss and whts the largest rim i could put and if i put a 15 inch rim will i hav to make any adjustment wid my suspension and will it hamper with performance
As long as you maintain the original tyre circumference, diameter and keep the weight of the wheels closer to that of the old ones, you shouldn't face any probs.

but before buying your new alloys get them checked for inset and outset, as these factors can affect handling and make a steering feel vague.

Inset or outset
This is very important. Ignore this and you can end up with all manner of nasty problems. This is the distance in mm between the centreline of the wheel rim, and the line through the fixing face. You can have inset, outset or neither. This determines how the suspension and self-centring steering behave. The most obvious problem that will occur if you get it wrong is that the steering will either become so heavy that you can't turn the car, or so light that you need to spend all your time keeping the bugger in a straight line. More mundane problems through ignoring this measurment can range from wheels that foul parts of the bodywork or suspension, to high-speed judder in the steering because the suspension setup can't handle that particular type of wheel. This figure will be stamped on the wheel somewhere as an ET figure.

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hey shan2nu

3 monthis bak.. i bought a baleno with 165/60 R 13

if im not mistake and i put 195/50 R 14

and its workin fine. i jus wanted to know why u are suggesting 195 why not 205 i want 205 so will it affect handlin ...and will my fuel consumption go up..??
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Quote[/b] ]and its workin fine. i jus wanted to know why u are suggesting 195 why not 205 i want 205 so will it affect handlin ...and will my fuel consumption go up..??
I personally feel that 205s might hamper your performanc instead of improving it. your FE is bound to come down as the contact patch will increase by a large number. And the extra width of the tyres can cause small time drag at high speeds.

You can fit 205 if you get your Lancer tuned. I don't think the stock ones have enuf oomph to handle a 205. Too much traction is also bad in a way.

A large contact patch doesn't necessarily mean better grip, your side profile, tread pattern, rubber compound all contribute. I bet a 185 Michelin Pilot will give you as much dry grip as a 195 Bridgestone Potenza, but i can assure you that the Potenza's can take all that torture and still not wear out as quickly as the Michelins.

Aggressive Anush has Michellins on his Vtec. Maybe he can tell about the tyres wear. *

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Quote[/b] ]3 monthis bak.. *i bought a baleno with 165/60 R 13

if im not mistake and i put 195/50 R 14
The baleno comes fitted with 165/80 R 13s. And you've fitted 195/50 R 14?

Actually by doin that you'vereduced the tyre circumference by a whopping 136.97mm (13.697cms). That's a error of -7.34%, meaning that when your speedo shows 100kmph, you'd be doing around 91.7kmph, but if you take the speedo error into account, you might be doing another 3-5kmph less, so at 100 (speedo), your true speed would be 91.7 - 3 to 5 = between 87-89 kmph.

BTW how does the car handle?? Does it oversteer or understeer?

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Old 24th November 2004, 02:11   #9
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ok, so the Lancers come with 175/80 R 13s, so the upgrades would be something like this.

205/60 R 14
205/65 R 14
195/65 R 14
205/55 R 15
195/60 R 15
205/50 R 16
195/55 R 16 .........take your pick.

PS : Anything more than 15" will give you a harsh ride.

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205/50 R15 is wat the lancer need...lower profile than that would screw up things. But i wouldnt suggest 205 in a lancer as it is gets too draggy, i drove a frnds car with 205 the pick up died and then he got fed up and put 195 and the pick up was much better.
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i had 205/50/15's on my lancer. looks just great.

if u dont care about performance, then 205/50/15 is ok. If u do, u'll need some go faster bits, or go for 195's!

mind u, when u put 15's the ride gets harsher. u can compensate this by increasing the tire pressure by a few pounds, but it doesn't compensate it entirely.
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hmmmmm

so i guess a 14 inch rim wid 195 is ideall....
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Quote[/b] ]so i guess a 14 inch rim wid 195 is ideall....
I feel 15" with 195 would be a better option. Decent ride with improved handling. Reduced tyre side wall will also bring down tyre flex, which will help the tyre last longer.

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but are u sure tht 15" wont giv a bit of a harsh ride ?? if i put 15 will i havta make any adjustments with the suspension.. or anythin
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Quote[/b] ]but are u sure tht 15" wont giv a bit of a harsh ride ?? if i put 15 will i havta make any adjustments with the suspension.. or anythin
Ofcourse 15" wheels will give you a harsher ride than the 14". Thats a decision you're gonna have to make, coz i dunno what levels of ride and handling you're looking for.

As long as the circumference of the tyre remains the same, it won't affect the suspenssion. But it will have to work harder with 15" wheels as the tyre side walls will offer lesser "flex/cushioning" compared to the 14" ones.

This table should help you understand.


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