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Old 12th May 2004, 12:20   #1
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Hi guys,
i am planning to dress up my little zen , its a '97 model with no power steering.i have finalised on a neo model (bouncer)..u can check that out in the neowheels site.what i wantd to kno is whtr i will have a hard time if i put in 165 tyres,now i am having the standard 145 tyres.reply fast .
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Old 12th May 2004, 12:42   #2
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Hey dude

I drive a Zen too a 97 AT . I upgraded my tyres to 155/R13 thats one upsize on the standard tyre. I use Aura alloy wheels on my Zen and I'm very happy with the Performance. 165s will be too big for the Zen so I would not advise it.. .

The combo on my Zen is :

Michelin Certis tubeless radials 155/R13, Aura Alloys six spoke design 13 "

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Old 12th May 2004, 12:43   #3
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165's will be no prob at all. If you are gonna change your rims and tyres, maybe you should consider moving up in size to 14". It'll really improve your handling and will look a lot better too.

Remember though, that if you go up in width or diameter of the tyre, you should go down with the aspect ratio to retain the same overall circumference and minimize any suspension geometry or speedo error changes that arise.

One more thing, make sure the offset of the new rims matches the original offset as speicfied by the company. To large a difference and you will experience a wobbling effect at certain speeds.
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Hey Artofzen,

rtech - essentially 13" are an upsize from the 12" on the older zens...right? (i wouldnt really suggest the 14&quot
About the offset, thats the advantage of the neo wheels, if it says the bouncers will suit the zen then it should mean that they have the same offset & PCD.

The choice between 155 & 165 essentially depends on what you are looking for - looks, performance, cornering, fuel economy, treadwear etc etc
Either way, IF you choose a 165mm tire make sure u get the shop u buy it from to guarantee that there will be no rubbing & touching even when u turn the steering fully.

Another thing u should concentrate on more than 155vs165 is what tires you are going to buy as this is the REAL factor of performance... a good 155 could give you more traction than an ok 175tire. So dont think its about size, its about tire compound.
What tires dyu have in mind?

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Old 12th May 2004, 13:43   #5
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frankly i am worried abt somebody telling me that it 'll be hard to park the car,since the steering will be too tite with 165 tyres?...is it true?...and my first priority is looks ;-) and how du think keeping the spare wheel fixed outside the hatch/boot ..can it be done esily or does it requires some strengthnn the boot?
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Old 12th May 2004, 13:45   #6
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i dont kno the guy at the shop showd me a couple of yentura(GY) yokohama,amazer...which one d u suggest?
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Hey AOZen,

Well, ofcourse the 155s will be easier to turn when the car is at a standstill. This is a big factor since your zen doesnt have PS. If you are the only one who drives the car and u dont mind a bit of a workout while parking you could manage the 165s as well, (and since you are concerned primarily with looks - the 165s would look better IMO)

About fixing the spare tire on the 5th door - keep in mind that a spare wheel and tire are VERY heavy. Opening the door up will be unlikely, atleast with the current fittings. And also the heavy tire will play on the slight clearances in the rear door over every bump and pothole, possibly making a bit of noise and putting a lot of stress on the hinges.

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Old 12th May 2004, 14:03   #8
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Quote[/b] (artofzen @ May 12 2004,12:15)]i dont kno the guy at the shop showd me a couple of yentura(GY) yokohama,amazer...which one d u suggest?
Whats your budget (total/per tire)?
Do you want 4 tyres or 5?

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i need 5 tyres and 5 alloys ..budget 27-30 K

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rehan
i bot those tyres good year tubeless 165/65/13 ...thanx for thre advice ..;-)
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Hey,

Sounds good man. Is it the goodyear eagle F1s you bought?
If you could put up some pics that would be great!

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Quote[/b] ]Is it the goodyear eagle F1s you bought?
Do they make Eagle F1's in that size? He's probably talking about the regular Goodyears which come as OE on most cars.
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I have seen Zens wearing 185/60 tyres on 13inch rims. Will be a problem when the rear is loaded. However you can go upto a max of 175/60r13 with no probs.

But the ideal would be 165/60 R13 from either michelins or pirellis or good ones.

how much did the tyres cost man?
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Quote[/b] (crazydiablo4484 @ May 14 2004,14:32)]I have seen Zens wearing 185/60 tyres on 13inch rims. Will be a problem when the rear is loaded. However you can go upto a max of 175/60r13 with no probs.
Why would it be a problem when the rear is loaded?? Any particular reason for this? The lower profile (60 as against 80) shouldn't really foul with the fenders. The front is where there might be a prob i would think.
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Thats what i know from my friends experience. The profile is low but still the 185 width will cause the sidewall height to increase than in the 80 profile so overall dia is increased. there is rubbing when the car is fully loaded.
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