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Old 18th May 2007, 16:53   #1
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I am looking for tyres and Alloys for a White Swift VDi with ABS. Yes finally after 3 months wait, its finally reached the dealership. ABS was a must so i had to wait.

Now the tyre size i have finalised :-

Size - 195/60/15
Tyre Speed Rating - Looking for atleast V
Alloys - Should be 100PCD and 6.5-7J in size
Requirement from tyres - Grip, Handling, Ride, Should last a year = 40,000kms(In that order, though they should last atleast 30,000kms if i am getting the first three parameters)
Requirements from Alloys - Black Finish will look better on a white car.

Now today i went to have a look at the tyres and alloys and following are the findings:-
  • According to one dealer 195/60/15 will scrap the inside at full lock.
  • According to another never buy goodyear even if its free
  • According to another Apollo Tyres are the best tyres in the world.
  • Bridgestone Potenza GIII, Goodyear Eagle F1 GSDIII, Goodyear Eagle Ventura are not available in this size.
Tyres i liked :-
  1. Micelin Pilot Primacy - 86H(speed rating is only H!) - Rs. 4400
  1. Michelin Energy XM1 - Rs. 5400
  2. Michelin Pilot Preceda - Rs. 5900
  3. Yokohama ES100 - Rs. 3100
  4. Yokohama AVS Sport - Rs. 3100
  5. Goodyear GT3 - Rs. 3100 (Are they crappy)
  6. Advan Neovas?? Dealer will get back to me about this.
How good are AVS Sports? Do Yokos have some problems? How come they so cheap?

Alloys i liked : -

01.
Really liked these though complete black finish would look much better.
02.
03.
04.
05.
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07.
08.
09.
10.
11. Lenso NX - Black in colour really nice
12. Lenso Blitz CB - Are brown/goldish in colour. Car will look something like this : -



Now which Alloys & Tyres should i go for?

P.S Some are 14inchers, i have clicked just to see the pattern, will get all of the above in 15inchers.

P.S 2 - Mods please dont merge this thread with any other, once i finish with my decision, you can lock or merge it. Thanks.

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Old 18th May 2007, 17:00   #2
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Buy Viper's old 15"s. They will look good, and you will save some money. The Advan Neovas are the best, and will be around 4700 a pop.
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GT3 n AVS sport cost the same
The price quoted for Michelins are on a higher side



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Buy Viper's old 15"s. They will look good, and you will save some money. The Advan Neovas are the best, and will be around 4700 a pop.
But i doubt if they'll last a min of 30k kms......

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Buy Viper's old 15"s. They will look good, and you will save some money. The Advan Neovas are the best, and will be around 4700 a pop.
Viper has sold his. The problem with the Advan Neovas is sourcing them, which ever dealer i called hasnot heard of them

@ KP - How much will the Neovas last?
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Should last a year = 40,000kms
ok.

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The Advan Neovas are the best,
hmmm. The neovas will last 40,000 km's? Wow.
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With the grip the Neovas offer i dont mind a change at around 30000kms too.
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check out cars (Swift D) with 15 inch personally before you decide on if "Ride" is also a priority.
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First of all congrats on the new car.

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  • According to one dealer 195/60/15 will scrap the inside at full lock.
No it won't touch at all. My friend & fellow member Speedonline has them on his Swift & they have not touched even once.

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  • According to another never buy goodyear even if its free
He's right!!!!

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  • According to another Apollo Tyres are the best tyres in the world.
He's not though!!

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Tyres i liked :-
  1. Micelin Pilot Primacy - 86H(speed rating is only H!) - Rs. 4400
  1. Michelin Energy XM1 - Rs. 5400
  2. Michelin Pilot Preceda - Rs. 5900
  3. Yokohama ES100 - Rs. 3100
  4. Yokohama AVS Sport - Rs. 3100
  5. Goodyear GT3 - Rs. 3100 (Are they crappy)
  6. Advan Neovas?? Dealer will get back to me about this.
How good are AVS Sports? Do Yokos have some problems? How come they so cheap?
Yoko's are cheap because the ones you are being offered are Grey market pieces. Yoko is now present in India and in the process of appointing dealers for their tyres but full scale launch is still a couple of months away. The rest are more expensive because they are officially imported & available with B&W.

And yes the GT3's are quite crappy so please stay away from them. Whereas, the AVS are pretty good tyres. Also like RT said I also don't think the Neova's will last 40k.

As KP commented the prices of the Michelin's are quite high. The prices in Delhi for the same are as follows:

Pilot Preceda - 5400 or so
Energy - 4800

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Now which Alloys & Tyres should i go for?
Alloys I can't recommend since they are very looks dependent and thus is a subjective issue.
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check out cars (Swift D) with 15 inch personally before you decide on if "Ride" is also a priority.
I want 15inchers in 195/60 profile and in that i want a tyre which can give me adequate ride. I had a option of taking the ZXi wheels with tyres but damn JK tyres are not up to the level and i personally dont like the ZXi alloys much. 14inchers dont do justice to the Swift IMHO.

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First of all congrats on the new car.
Thanks alot, was a long waiting period though i was one of the first to book.

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No it won't touch at all. My friend & fellow member Speedonline has them on his Swift & they have not touched even once.
I am aware of the same and the Swift VDi has stiffer settings, some one was talking about raising the height or something, is that true?

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the AVS are pretty good tyres. Also like RT said I also don't think the Neova's will last 40k
ES100 are out, they are old and not that good. Wont AVS Sport make tyre noises at speed, Petes box is to follow soon with better breathing.

Are Nevoas better or Energy, Precedas. I really dont mind if Neovas last 30000kms but will they offer stupendous grip levels which i have heard from many people.

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Alloys I can't recommend since they are very looks dependent and thus is a subjective issue.
Alloys have been finalised Lenso NX - 21k for 5, black in colour.
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wouldnt the presence of ABS restrict change in size ?
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nope abs shouldn get confused with 1 size upgrade, OD is what matters.

and looks wise 14 inch might not do justice but ride wise its a tricky choice, not because i have choosen but after suggesting 15 to someone, the feedback was 15 inch did take a good toll on the ride comfort.

aditya from bangalore, if you are reading do post up
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yeah he was telling me as well about the poor ride quality on 15".

Also I think MC mayank also wasnt also happy with the ride quality.

He has 195/60-15 on the petrol VXi and had Michelin Pilot Primacy.

Those are also very good tyres and you should check them out as well. They offer a good compromise between grip and comfort.
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I am aware of the same and the Swift VDi has stiffer settings, some one was talking about raising the height or something, is that true?
Not sure but it would obviously have a stiffer suspenion to cope with the extra weight of the diesel engine.

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ES100 are out, they are old and not that good. Wont AVS Sport make tyre noises at speed, Petes box is to follow soon with better breathing.

Are Nevoas better or Energy, Precedas. I really dont mind if Neovas last 30000kms but will they offer stupendous grip levels which i have heard from many people.
Both AVS and Neova are the quitest tyres around, both will have some degree of road noise especially at high speeds. And yes the Neova's have some truly stupendous dry grip!

As for Energy/Preceda/Neova comparison there is no contest with regards to performance, Neova is tops followed by Preceda followed by Energy. However, if you want comfort & less road noise just reverse the above ranking.

I think you should first decide what you want as the primary quality of your tyres. Whether Performance is more important then Comfort or vice-versa? We can give you better advice then.
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The Stock 165 crappy JKs wont let ABS do it work.

Spoke to tyre dealer and he says no Neovas.

Eagle F1 GSD3 at 3500 seems to be better then AVS Sport.

Thanks iRagling, Vid & Jaggu.

I am too inclined towards 15inchers. Performance over Comfort is my prority.

How does Eagle F1 compare to the rest.

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GSD3's suck. AVS Sports are better man, any day.
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