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Old 1st March 2011, 19:23   #481
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Get 235. 255 if you have wider alloy else I was told its of no use and balloon effect will scare you at high speeds.
errr what balloon effect jk ? Have been running on these tires from the 5k clicks mark and no problem what so ever at high speeds.

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Besides your FE will drop with the 255s, and you will also be touching the wheel wells while turning.
Seldom seen something like that ACM. My colleague is running 255's on his 2.2 Dicor and it doesn't touch the wheel wells as mentioned.

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Anyways I am getting a deal of 6.6k per tyre for the yoko geo AT at Sai Iyengar tyres Indiranagar. Is the price ok?

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Tejas
tejas I think that's right price. Take a look at the following brands also
Bridgestone D694 ,Pirelli Scorpion A/T, BF Goodrich T/A and the Maxxis Bravo Series.

Have heard quite a lot of good stuff about the BFG's too.
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Old 3rd March 2011, 13:36   #482
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Do not go for 255 on the safari. the front suspension will take additional load. esp for a 4x4 I would recommend sticking to 235.
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Old 3rd March 2011, 14:12   #483
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rjstyles - Had reduced the adjustable height on the safari to the lowest level offically suggested so that there was easier entry/ exit from the safari for my parents, and lesser sideways rocking motion. Even the 235 tyres used to touch the tyre guards on the inside while turning and the 255 would have touched an even lesser turn. I let that bit of touching continue as it was only at very slow speeds that I would turn the steering completely.

Bantejas - The Duellers have lasted between 40K to 65K for each time me, used 3 sets and the tyres would start picking punchers more frequently after 20k kms. The life depended on the alignment being set properly.

One set of Michellin AT that I put on last also lasted well and these were softer / smoother to ride one and gave better comfort.

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Bantejas - The Duellers have lasted between 40K to 65K for each time me, used 3 sets and the tyres would start picking punchers more frequently after 20k kms. The life depended on the alignment being set properly.
Yeah, i got a couple of punctures in the past 3 weeks back but the real problem was the skiddish nature at relatively high speeds! I am not a rough driver and thought that this would last at least for 60k. The tread seems fine to me. I will get the wheel aligned and see if that improves the condition else will change the tyres.
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Old 17th March 2011, 19:02   #485
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Default TATA SAFARI EX 2010 tyre Upsize

Posting this query for a friend.
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Car :- TATA SAFARI EX 2010 model (2 wheel drive)

He want to change the stock tyres to BMW X6 type tyres (255/50 R19 Or 315/35R20/ 110W..I am not sure of this spec).

Current Spec :- 235/70 R16
Proposed Spec :- 255/50 R19 or 315/35 R20/ 110W .

1) Is this up gradation possible?
2) Is there any modification needed for such up gradation ?
3) Is there any difference in performance / Breaking / stability etc ?


The above SUV is only for highway running.

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Old 3rd April 2011, 18:56   #486
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Guys,

Please comment on the two which one is better suited

As you all know that, I travel a lot (highway/no highways, rocks, mud and what not)

How are BFG with respect to performance / Breaking / stability etc. Yes i need good braking factored in

1. Michelin: Most expensive.. soft sidewall Lattitude Cross
2. BS Dueller HT: Good but not happy
3. Continentals / Apollo RT Hawkz: not sure on A S S support :(
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4. BFG AT/KO
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5. BFG Long Trail T/A Tour
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For a 2WD I would suggest you go for the long trail!
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1. Michelin: Most expensive.. soft sidewall Lattitude Cross
Isn't Michelin LTX AT2 an option or is it not available?
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Michelin doesnt have a soft sidewall! However, the Latitude Cross isnt great. The LTX A/T 2 is very good though.

I agree with tsk. Go for the Long Trail as it is made for more on road driving. the Geolandars are also pretty good on the road.
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Michelin doesnt have a soft sidewall! However, the Latitude Cross isnt great. The LTX A/T 2 is very good though.

I agree with tsk. Go for the Long Trail as it is made for more on road driving. the Geolandars are also pretty good on the road.
I think the BFG is around 1000rs cheaper than Geolander AT/S. Since Rahul will be indulging in more "Trail driving" rather than hard core offroading, a trail tire will be better as on road characteristics will be much better.
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I think the BFG is around 1000rs cheaper than Geolander AT/S. Since Rahul will be indulging in more "Trail driving" rather than hard core offroading, a trail tire will be better as on road characteristics will be much better.
Ok, went to shop around, but came back empty handed because

1. BFG Long trail T/A has complaints coming in as early as 15days for sidewall cracks and ruptures. Saw two on em from a Scorpio pending company officials visit. So i am skeptical on that.

2. That leaves me with BFG AT/KO (6300/-). Now tire gurus, kindly please advise on the following
(a): Wet road handling.. (is it as bad as BS or worser)
(b) Braking ability (is it as bad as BS or worser)
(i) I measured tread depth (it was approx 10mm) with the gauge

3. Michellin LTX AT2 not in stock since last 4 months (7500/-) for most of the dealers in Pune. Old stock being sold

4. Bridgestone HT (6900/-)
readily available :(
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Try NOT TO buy Bridgestone if you can.
And if you can get Yoko A/T, The grip, handling, ride is far superior. Tread depth is approx 15+mm. PLs verify, though it doesnt figure in your option list mentioned above.
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Please check with Gowda79 about BFG AT/KO, he must have run a decent number of kms on them by now and will be able to give you a correct feedback.
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Try NOT TO buy Bridgestone if you can.
And if you can get Yoko A/T, The grip, handling, ride is far superior. Tread depth is approx 15+mm. PLs verify, though it doesnt figure in your option list mentioned above.
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Please check with Gowda79 about BFG AT/KO, he must have run a decent number of kms on them by now and will be able to give you a correct feedback.
Thanks Jay / Gowda79 (for BFG AT/KO feedback) / tsk1979 for the kind advices. Given the situation i have ended up with BFG LT235/70/R16 AT/KO

Front: Tata Safari : Tyre & wheel upgrade thread-04042011094.jpg
Rear: Tata Safari : Tyre & wheel upgrade thread-04042011095.jpg

The tires are DOT 1810 make and made in USA.

Hope to see them perform better than the Bridgestones HT. I was skeptical after 1 cm wide and 1/2 cm deep chips on the sidewalls.

As always, feel free to comment.

Rahul

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Hi All,

Got new shoes for my Safari: 4 Continental Cross Contacts.
Retained one B'stone HT as the backup tyre.

The Duelers ran for 82000 kms. Astonishingly, there was just one puncture among the five deulers through the whole span of 2 years 5 months and 82000kms. Apart from the tyres, I take some credit for the relatively good condition of the tyres as I religiously stuck to tyre rotation and proper air pressure in tyres.

I chose the Conti's, as they looked the best built of all the tyres I looked at.
And they were made in Malaysia unlike others. So in my view that equated to best quality rubber used as raw material and tyres made for India type or perhaps worse climate (Malaysia being an equatorial climate country)
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